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A Singaporean found Einstein's E=mc2 wrong!

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    ChanRasjid
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    Hello all,

    The Singaporean of course is me.

    Most people would not believe that the famous equation, E= mc?, from Einstein could be wrong. First a little clarification. The formula has two part. The so call mass-energy equivalence - mass may be converted to energy - is not wrong; it is the basis why we have nuclear power. What my discovery shows to be wrong is the the so called relativistic kinetic energy part of E=mc? wrong - relativistic mechanics is wrong.

    In 2012, there was the discovery of the Higgs boson which made headline news worldwide. Then, very recently, we have the big news about the detection of gravitational waves. If E=mc? being wrong makes the news, it would not just be headline news, it would mean the world of physics going belly-up! The related physics of E=mc? is the very foundation of high energy physics which is what the most advanced physics research laboratories are using for their calculations - imagine all their work for the past 100 years being rejected overnight. I would not be surprised if people do not have much confidence in my discovery as E=mc? being wrong has unimaginable implications in the world of physics.

    I'll just quote from my website
    http//www.emc2fails.com
    "The Relativistic Mechanics of E=mc ? Fails"

    Abstract. The relativistic mechanics of contemporary physics does not have a defined unit of force. The newton, the SI unit of force, may not be used in any of the relativistic formulas; it is a real unit of force only with Newtonian mechanics which observes Newton's second law of motion as an axiom defining a unit of force as mass x acceleration. Without a unit of force, the application of the work-energy theorem (work=force x distance) produces only a formula that evaluates only to a pure number which has no association with any real unit of energy. All values of energy from relativistic mechanics are, therefore, fictitious.
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    At the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) of CERN where protons are propelled to near the speed of light, the purported energy of the relativistic protons is 6.5 TeV (10?? electron volts), but the real value is only 470 MeV ((10 electron volts)) - the reported energy being inflated by a factor of 15,000."

    Beta particles going faster than light speed?
    http//emc2fails.com/wp/index.php/2016/04/27/beta-particles-going-faster-than-light-speed/

    My discovery seems corroborated by the Chinese. In 2009, Chinese physicists who are members of the Chinese Academy of Sciences measured energy through direct calorimetry (energy to heat) and their experiment conclusively repudiated the relativistic energy of special relativity. They concluded that the 7 TeV (10?? electron volts) of energy purportedly acquired by protons in the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) of CERN have only real energy of about 650 MeV (10 electron volts), off by a factor of 10,000 ? practically the same as what my new theoretical discovery concludes.

    The unimaginable may sometimes come true.

    Best regards,
    Chan Rasjid.

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      Jafar
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      You don't believe in Einstein E=mc2 ?
      Then you're an unbeliever! a kuffar! You will burn in hell for all eternity..

      Ok joking aside...
      Your finding is interesting and I will dig up more

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        You don't believe in Einstein E=mc2 ?
        Then you're an unbeliever! a kuffar! You will burn in hell for all eternity..

        lol

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          siwto
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          Peace be upon you all,

          Interesting ChandRasdjid, i will discover your finding. bravo
          I am cameroonian more involved in autodidacting

          What i am concerned with in that case is that the theory on the physical nature of LIGHT.
          It is known as wave & particle. In my opinion it is not correct. Einstein was concerned (but himself was not very sure same as Louis De Broglie) who worked out this theory & others at the beginning of the late century.For long time ago light was considered either particle (NEWTON) or wave nature (DESCARTES) exclusively. Basing on the discovries of PLANK and others on quantum phenomenon, it was concluded that light is one thing and the other in the unified above theories.

          I felt challenged and around 1995-97 was able to manuscrit something on that.

          I found that there exist what could be named PARADOX OF LIGHT, e.g.
          CARRYING IMMATERIAL NATURE BUT FROM MATTER, and that the SPEED OF LIGHT will have no fundamental sens as it is.

          Personnal works are done but are not yet published, as i am busy of everyday life.

          Siwto

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            Thanks Jafar, for reading a scientific paper based only on its scientific content and merit; you're of a nearly extinct species.

            For those who do not know much of how the present world of academia works - especially in physics which is dominated by Einstein's relativity theory - there is this peer review system that works much against any attempt at new discoveries. The more popular physics journal in the world (especially western, also probably China) have openly stated that they do not now, as a matter of policy, accept any article that disputes the validity of Einstein's relativity theory; their standpoint is that the theory is one of the best tested and verified physics theory and it serves no purpose for them to consider any critique of the theory! Unbelievable but true! The most active physics online forum follows the same rule and would immediately delete any article disputing Einstein's relativity.

            There are not many places in the internet where I can allow my "discovery" be made known to others. What I did initially was I sent out my paper to about emails in groups of 70 x 10 - 700 in all! The addresses are of physics professors/scientists from the universities/research institutes all over the world. The response so far

            1. bounced; marked as spam - about 5. One email from a Turkish professor "Spam!Spam!Spam!..." - said three times in the Islamic fashion!
            2. clear positive response - 2. One is a nuclear physicists who was the first to succeed in fusion reaction (fusor?). The other is a Korean physics professor whose university is ranked 19/300 "I am very much interested in your theory. I will examined it in greater details".
            3. negative response - telling why I am wrong - none; as expected. If I receive unsolicited emails entitled "Human evolves from fish from outer space", "Geocentrism - Earth is center of the universe", I would just delete such emails.
            4. total silence - 690/700!

            Although the well known formula E=mc? (the atomic bomb formula) is now associated with the name of Einstein, it was not discovered by Einstein. He only made some final refinements to what was discovered by others; somehow the mainstream world preferred his name to be attached to the formula which may, or may not, be justified.

            First, a little about Einstein's fame and his theory of relativity (started with special relativity 1905). Einstein's special relativity is today universally accepted as good physics, standard staple in physics in almost all universities worldwide - especially in the west. Nowadays, the name of Einstein in mainstream media is that of a man of the greatest genius, that his physics is one of the greatest and most brilliant representing man's creativity.

            In the early days of Einstein's relativity, it was not universally accepted. Many of the greatest physicists of the earlier days rejected relativity theory outright e.g Ernest Rutherford, discovery of proton; Nichola Tesla, "Very likely the greatest inventor of all time and certainly the greatest electrical engineer of all time. Tesla is most well known for his invention of the AC power distribution system that we still use today."; Louis Essen, inventor of atomic clock; Herbert Ives - "...The 'principle' of the constancy of the velocity of light (a central tenet of relativity) is not merely 'ununderstandable', it is not supported by 'objective matters of fact'; it is untenable...". Even today, after a hundred years, there are still great controversies surrounding whether Einstein's relativity theory is valid or invalid, but the mainstream media has no interest to report any conclusions that run counter to Einstein's theory.

            The modern relativistic mechanics related to E=mc? did not come from Einstein. It actually came from Max Planck, a most famous physicists of the time (1920's). He derived the formula for relativistic momentum p
            p = m v = 1/(1 - v?/c?) x rest-mass x velocity.
            The reason why relativistic mechanics fails (as I showed in my paper) begins with this little new formula p = mv.
            The old formula for momentum had always been p=mv, without the gamma ( = 1/(1 - v?/c?)).

            They blindly took the original words of Newton's "Principia", the 2nd law of motion
            "Force is proportional to change of motion"

            Translated into calculus it is
            force = rate of change of momentum (motion = momentum p) = dp/dt .
            So the new force is
            force = d/dt (mv); no more the old force = d/dt(mv) without the gamma .

            But they missed the point that even Isaac Newton himself interpreted his second law of motion in only one manner

            1. that mass must be constant, not invariant.
            2. momentum p = mv, without the new gamma factor; this gives rise to the strict definition of axiom for force force = mass x acceleration.

            Our standard units of weights and measures are found only on the fixed kilogram - mass is constant as originally interpreted by Newton. So when they used a new relativistic momentum p=mv, they are using a new definition. But such definitions in physics may not be changed at will - our SI unit of kilogram is a constant, our meter and second too are fixed and universal (unlike Einstein's relativity where space and time may distort and "curve&quot. So the real physical unit of force - the newton - is not valid for use with a redefinition of force to force = d/dt (mv).

            This is how special relativity messed up high energy physics.

            Best regards,
            Chan Rasjid.

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              Hello siwto,

              An interesting site of Ray Flemming
              http//www.naturalphilosophy.org/site/rayflemming/

              I think this wave particle duality is not acceptable; much of quantum mechanics are still raw and many discoveries are awaiting the right person.

              Firstly, a particle is an idealization - only a concept. There is this possibility that when an elementary particle moves in the aether, there is an associated aether "wave" accompanying and associated with the "particle" - so we may detect both wave or particle. This should somehow be normal and natural when our physics are done correctly - not much of a duality to talk about. Light would be a photon "particle" if somehow we could never transform a partial wavelength of light. So there is still a lot unresolved concerning the properties and nature of light.

              Best regards,
              Chan Rasjid.

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                Peace.

                If E=mc2 is wrong, then the current physics world is largely wrong, the earth is not round, law of gravity is wrong, the universe as we believed is wrong THEN what if Rashad Khalifa was right....he predicted the end of the world and logically the big end can be an anytime event if what we know of the universe and space is wrong.

                How could scientist predict that the solar system will be around for billions of years whilst the Quran has come down and warning people of the Big end which also includes the destruction of the sun and earth? The flat earth theory makes more logical sense with respect to the period of earth's destruction. The blue ball earth requires billions of years to past only then

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                  There are two theories, the general relativy and the special relativity.

                  The latter has been I have already seen it questioned by several scientists. it wa salso formulated later, when Einstein did not count any more on the work of his first wife.

                  Salaam

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                    There are two theories, the general relativy and the special relativity.

                    The latter has been I have already seen it questioned by several scientists. it wa salso formulated later, when Einstein did not count any more on the work of his first wife.

                    Salaam

                    LOL to Einstein.

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                      LOL to Einstein.

                      couple of weeks ago i also reading a news in pakistani newpaper in uk regarding a scientis who claim no gravity exist and einstien e=mc is wrong.. lol and he challanged the people to come at his show and buy tickets.. lol

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                        For E=mc? to be correct we need c to exist and we need "owner" of c to have mass m. If these are ok then we can talk about formula E=mc?. We cannot just put a few letters, signs and numbers and talk about them.

                        But, let's just see what is this formula for the start. It states that some energy is produced if some object with mass m is in motion with its speed c. This is impossible, because there're no such conditions. Motion is not possible without its carrier and everything we know as motion is (just) a wave on motion-carrier. This wave (these waves) can produce energy, which can be in dependance of object's (which caused waves) mass and its speed (velocity). But what is mass and what is speed? Are they exist only in motion? The answer is yes. There's no mass and there's no speed w/o motion (waves). So, if we wanna calculate any effects of motion we have to do it with waves' properties, even if we wanna calculate mass and speed of object which caused waves/motion. The light is a set of wave on wave-carrier, it doesn't cause motion, it's the motion itself. So, we cannot calculate the energy of light, we can only calculate energy of it's cause, what caused light.

                        To do such calculation we have to use only properties of object which caused the light, properties of wave-carrier (air, water, solid objects...) and wave properties of light. This is not a simple task and it has a lot of parameters. All of theory science is just a hoax, and this E=mc? hoax is one of the biggest, it helped in enslaving humanity a lot.

                        If anybody thinks/claims different, then please tell me how can we use E=mc?, and I mean how can you and I use it.

                        Allah's bless and salam.

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                          Salam,

                          I believe Einstein tried to capture the relationship between mass and energy. He claims they are related by some constant (speed of light). The simplified equation E=mc^2 applies to objects that have mass but are not moving. The full equation also contains a parameter for the momentum of the object that is moving.

                          Since the carrier medium is also related to speed of light (c=1/sqrt(permeability^2*permittivity^2), you can substitute into Einstein equation and now you have the wave carrier in the equation.

                          Even if the equation is not correct, I don't think you can claim there is no relationship between mass and energy. They are interrelated.

                          When you appreciate the complexity of the interactions on which this world was formed, you can only conclude that there is a Creator or Designer that made all this happen.

                          Allah tells us in Quran that His servants are protected and can not be hurt or enslaved by shaytan. The fact that majority of the people are enslaved is because they do not listen to God's guidance and are therefore enslaved by their own deeds. This will not change, even if you prove that science is a big hoax. They will be enslaved by some other way since they are not protected by God. You can provide a friendly reminder, but other than that, you have to allow people to go astray or be duped. That is their decision.

                          My personal recommendation is to learn the sciences as you can not help but appreciate the miracles of how this world was formed. It will increase your iman in the Creator, Allah swt.

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                            Allah tells us in Quran that His servants are protected and can not be hurt or enslaved by shaytan.

                            As matter of fact, my dear brother, these were Shaytan's words, but, you're right, they're quoted in Qur'an.

                            I love a science a lot, and I love all the people to whom Allah gave real knowledge. I just wanted to say that we have to make a difference between "theoretical science" (which is sihr) and real science, which can be defined as "applied science", just to make a difference. While Muslims were near the Qur'an they had their Golden Age in science, for 500+ years.
                            I'm not trying to free the people also, because I know that when Moosa a.s. lead Bani Israel over the sea they asked him to make a god for them, and after that they took a golden calf to worhip.

                            Speaking of topic, as I said, formula is bogus, because the light does not have mass and there's no such thing as "speed of light". But energy from mass is obvious, just we need to define correctly what is mass. To make it simplier for thinking... Try to imagine some object with any mass with an empty space around it; it's not possible, it doesn't exist. But, if mass exists independant of motion then how would be possible to measure this object's mass? It's not possible, mass exists only with some force, as its result, and all forces are motion, which produces waves on its carrier. I said that the light doesn't have mass because light itself is a set of waves, or better said it's a motion on its carrier.

                            One of great Muslim scholars from a period I mentioned said that there're no colors in vacuum. What I understood from his words is that there's no light in an empty space, because light needs carrier, as any other wave. The question, from his statment, is what are stars?

                            Einstein and many others before him introduced some very huge and very small inputs, which cannot be proved ever, but they took them as "possible". All their theoris are based on these inputs, and all of them are products of ancient satanist movement, which is known as "atomists". They tried to remove "God" from all equations and claimed that all existance is made of a tiny particles which they called "atoms", from which are 4 basic essences made earth, water, air and fire. But, God sent Aristotle, The First Teacher, to tell them that their atoms are bogus and there's one more essence, which he called "the first essence" or "God's essence", and which we know as "light" (noor) or "soul" (rooh).

                            These essences have their normal order and we can see that the Earth (we're made of) is heaviest of them, then comes water, then air, then fire (jinn were made of), then "the first essence" (angels are made of and celestial bodies, for example). This is why we have springs of fresh water, because it's natural for water to be over the Earth. Air always wants to go up, over the Earth and water, and fire... if you make one you'll see its flame is always up. It's interesting that angels are coming down when Allah orders them to do so. We're taking these words as words of savage people, but satanists are still working as atomists, and real thinkers are interested in what Aristotle had to say.

                            Anyways, we were told to think a lot about the Heavens and the Earth and what's on them and between them, and to think about ourselves, but we have no time for that, but little. It's much easier to accept others' opinions and assumptions. All Einstein's works are worthless and it's too much to spend 2 words on "his science", but if somebody wanna explore the sea of science he has to discard all theories and to accept only what he can prove. That's why I put my comment here for the young intelligent people to ask themselves if there's possibility that Einstein was only a puppet of masonic Zionists, in their enslaving the humanity with nonsences. Many countries are spending a lot of money to hold up E=mc?, money more then enough for all the Earth to live in peace and harmony.

                            Allah's bless and salam.

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                              21104 On the Day when We roll up the heavens like the scroll of a book is rolled up. As We initiated the first creation, so shall We return it. It is a promise of Ours that We will do this.

                              hi guys , this verse is actually more than 1400 years old... can you find any relevance of modern theories of judgement day in this...

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                                There's nothing of "modern theories" in the Qur'an. Theories are assumptions and the Qur'an is haqq.

                                Allah's bless and salam.

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                                  There's nothing of "modern theories" in the Qur'an. Theories are assumptions and the Qur'an is haqq.

                                  Allah's bless and salam.

                                  salam and bless to you too..

                                  quran is haqq(fact/reality). yeh no doubt , so i revise the question...

                                  modern science facts... instead of theories... the facts was theories once... and when proved by experiments the theories become facts...

                                  the verse above i quoted is still consider as theory not become a fact , but we know its a fact... and will come one day,, for science it will become fact when it will be happening... hope u got it now...

                                  peace

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                                    If we study scientific discipline known as "logic" we can learn a lot about thinking (process), which is very important for our approach to Qur'an. But if we look at logic itself we'll find that nothing has changed since Aristotle, its "father". He told all we have to know about thinking, no matter if it's about correct thinking or false one.

                                    When Tesla was asked once how come all his machines are working when he makes them, there's no need for any test or changes in his projects, he answered I got an idea about the machine I'm going to make; then I think about it for days, months, sometimes for years. I turn it on in my mind and I'm looking how it's working. I'm finding all of its errors and malfunctions and I'm making changes, in my mind. When I'm totally sure that it's 100% workable I make it.

                                    This man was lead by knowledge about his projects, and here we can see the difference between the knowledge (or the real science if you like) and falsehood (or theoretical science if you like). We have to differ idea and theory. We're all getting ideas, all humans. Idea is Allah's sign (ayat). What we have to do with it? We have to think about it and with His Help we'll get the knowledge about it. Then it's upto us if we'll accept that knowledge we got. On the other hand, theory is an assumption, opinion, "Shaytan's touch". Sometimes they seem same to us, idea and theory, but they're very different. Idea can lead to the truth, but theory will lead only to falsehood.

                                    How can we recognize them? We can recognize them if we look at their starting points and their goals. Since the idea is "divine inspiration" its result is always to help mankind and its start is from some proven truth. It is not visible in total, because it's just an idea, but thinking process is helping in that, in creating salihat (good deeds) from an idea. On the other hand, theory is starting with assumptions, and any is wrong, even if it matches reality. Its goal is false too and some of goals are to be better then others, to get some personal benefit, to do something bad to others, and so on. There're people who're jahiloon (don't recognize the truth and don't have knowledge about something), and they can get ideas, since Allah is Merciful to all of the humanity. When jahil gets an idea he can't recognize it as idea and he can name it as "a theory". Btw, jahillon are not only amongs unbelievers, believer can be jahil too.

                                    So, if we read ayat you quoted we can see that there's no "maybe" in it. Allah is talking Haqq (Truth). We can get a theory from this ayat, as from any, but that theory will lead us to falsehood for sure. We can get an idea from it too, and if we think about it, it can lead us to the truth (knowledge) with His Help.

                                    Allah's bless and peace.

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                                      there are lot of facts once considered as theories... before discovering the mechanism of that thing...

                                      so all theorist are jahil according to you , thats great .. i m really impress...

                                      about that person tesla.. what happen with his idea about sub atomic particles... he denied that theory...if you recall it...

                                      but now its a proven fact that atom too can splitted...

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                                        No, not all of theorists are jahiloon. I said that some of jahiloon can get an idea ("divine inspiration&quot, but they will probably recognize it as a theory, because they don't have the knowledge to recognize it as an idea. All of the people can get an idea, even "worst enemies of God".
                                        But what I'm sure in is that all theories are "Shaytan's touch", because they're assumptions. The first theory was Adam's a.s. when he had a theory about eating from "the tree". Theory was that he'll be imortal. As I said, all theories are starting with falsehood and their goal is something false too. In Adam's a.s. case starting point was that eating from the tree will lead to imortallity, and goal was to be better or one of the angels.

                                        If it's proven then it's easy to prove it again, right? Because, scientific experiment should be something anybody can do. So, are you sure you and I can prove anything of that? Or we can just talk about it, and enjoy in talking? I'm sure Tesla knew why he denied not just that theory, all of them. On the other hand, what he claimed in science was always truth and easy to prove. Speaking of that, there's something I'd like to share...

                                        Tesla said once that he can provide electricity from the atmosphere for the whole humanity - for free. Can you recognize idea in this? Can you see the goal of his idea to help the whole humanity?

                                        When I heard this for the first time I was very surprised and I said to myself oh, this would be fantastic, many problems could be solved easily. But, then I was sad because Tesla died and he couldn't teach us how to do this. But it was my assumption... What if, what if, what if... What if some people are harvesting electricity from the atmoshpere for free... but, they're selling it to their slaves - "ordinary humans", goyim?!?

                                        Science is something beautiful, but, as in everything else, scientist are not same as science. As Muslims are not same as Islam.

                                        Allah's bless and peace.

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                                          Peace.
                                          Just the same as all people are getting Qoran/scripture from GOD free,but some(a lot) are stealing from GOD,writing the ideas as their own and selling the books . They are pretending to help but they are lining up their own pockets and stealing from people!!!!!

                                          In fact many are even twisting GOD s words and selling their work to mislead many others!!!

                                          GOD bless.
                                          Peace.

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