Black hole
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You are not paying attention. NASA got stuck in your mind. I am only explaining the words of Qur'aan. Majority of translators render Masabih as stars while there is specific root for stars distinct from it. Similarly Kokab are planets.
No, my dear brother, NASA is in your mind. You're finding NASA in "hawa", which is emptiness and you're telling meanings which are not from Kitab. Yes, masabih are not stars, stars are nujoom, but masabih are not comets either. Kokab, you probably mean Kawakib (kawkab is singular), which cannot be planets, since planets don't exist. What you know as planet is najm also.
hansolo, you're asking yourself? Consult the Qur'an, it's explanation for all things... but, sometimes we can't find explanation... it's not upto Kitab.
Allah's bless and salam.
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No, my dear brother, NASA is in your mind. You're finding NASA in "hawa", which is emptiness and you're telling meanings which are not from Kitab. Yes, masabih are not stars, stars are nujoom, but masabih are not comets either. Kokab, you probably mean Kawakib (kawkab is singular), which cannot be planets, since planets don't exist. What you know as planet is najm also.
hansolo, you're asking yourself? Consult the Qur'an, it's explanation for all things... but, sometimes we can't find explanation... it's not upto Kitab.
Allah's bless and salam.
You also need to consult lexicons. And also note that this verbal sentence is circumstantial adverb and its subject pronoun refers back to the certain star.
You seem to have not read this
Learned Ibne Faris said about its Root " ";
That it leads to the perception of something getting in state of emptiness and dropping, or falling. Stars are a subject of interest and understanding of organizations like NASA. We find in the Encyclopedias that the nearest Star Proxima Centauri is more than 30 trillion km (20 trillion mi) from Earth. Further, we know that while light from the Sun takes only about eight minutes to reach Earth the farthest stars are so distant that their light takes billions of years to reach on Earth.
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Did I say "emptiness"? I have consulted lexicon, one and only valid to me - Kitab.
Same word is used in 2081 and please use your explanation in it. Or it's not same word?What I'm talking to you from the start is don't look for NASA's stories in the Qur'an, you won't find them, because NASA's stories are sihr and Qur'an is haqq. There're no black holes!
Allah's bless and salam.
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Did I say "emptiness"? I have consulted lexicon, one and only valid to me - Kitab.
Same word is used in 2081 and please use your explanation in it. Or it's not same word?What I'm talking to you from the start is don't look for NASA's stories in the Qur'an, you won't find them, because NASA's stories are sihr and Qur'an is haqq. There're no black holes!
Allah's bless and salam.
It is not the NASA story. It is recount of factual event narrated in the Grand Qur'aan.
Your mentioning same verb in 2081 shows me that you still need to know how meanings are assigned. Read little about semantics also please.
Let me give you my link on this subject
Semantics of Qur'aan is like "semantics" of DNA?triplet schema
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My dear brother,
you already talked about the light w/o any knowledge, since you probably didn't think about it, and you mentioned some very huge numbers, may Allah swt forgive you. But, now you're comparing Qur'an with DNA, which, I have to inform you, is bogus as all sihr from scientific priests. You have to free yourself from magiacians' sihr, they casted it on the whole humanity.
Clean yourself and as tahir come close to Qur'an, we'll read it again with His 'izn, any surah, ayat, topic you like.I don't own the truth, it's with Allah swt, so let us leave all of them and walk towards Him. Shadows can lead us to Him. SubhanAllah.
hansolo, because they're shaytan(s)!?
Allah's bless and salam.
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Brother Aladin
You know what, when I was learning physics in high school I was amazed by the things I learned and how much of it was based on sheer faith. Take Atoms for example. Did you know that we still don't have pictures of an Atom? The only thing we get is drawings same goes for Earth or any other galaxy out there. They are all composite CGI.
With the technology we have today, we should have 24/7 live feed of Earth from any of the over 10.000 satellites that are supposedly orbiting the Earth and yet 99 % of the internet is going through cables under the ocean! So when we say cloud in reality it is under the sea.
However I cannot understand what is the reason for all of these lies that were forced upon us for centuries.
And brother is DNA too, a hoax? A belief system ? That is not real?
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My dear brothers,
I'll try once more, and I pray to Allah swt to Help me.
Mazhar, you probably know that Qur'anic language is not Arabic, so translation to any language is not possible, unless one knows its language. "Academic rules of translation" doesn't exist, since there's no academy te learn Qur'anic language. It can be gifted by Allah swt only. We can discuss this, but it's off-topic here. It's not good to compare Qur'an with anything, unless Allah swt done so, nor it's good to give to it any adjective, if Allah swt didn't do so. So, unless you haven't saw DNA or you haven't prove it that it exists, watch what you're talking. Believing in information from fasiqoon is a sin, may-be fisq too.
Think about why you wrote this from the start... this is what is ours, intentions (not) to do something.Brother hansolo, then what lead you to believe in what is not acceptable to you? Anything which is not proven (haqq) cannot be taken as haqq. Belief is based on the knowledge about haqq, otherwise it's superstition, any belief. If we don't have the knowledge about something, proven knowledge, then why we believe in anything? We can be right, but it's superstition anyways, since it's guessing (rajm, rujoom is plural). But, guessing about "masabih" is very dangerous, since shaytans are guessing about them. Maybe some other guessing is not a big sin, but it's a sin for sure, since we were warned in so many ayats about it.
Please, for your good, leave all theories, assumptions and opinions and believe only what you have knowledge about. It's enough for 'iman, Allah's is giving what we need. Any belief w/o knowledge about haqq is shirk. You discarded false hadith, but there's so much sihr around us, hadith is just to obvious.
Allah's bless and salam.
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Aladin what is the language of the Quran? If it's not Arabic. What about the letters it is written with? Are they not Arabic letters? Please could you explain further as knowing the truth is all I seek.
And what is Haqq?
And how could I for example apple understand the Quran?
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Qur'an was sent with its language, Arabiyyun Mubin, on Muhammad's sawa heart (26192-196). This doesn't mean "clear Arabic language", but it's clear (mubin). (Lisan) Arabiyyun should mean "free from error".
The language Arabs are using is not "free from error", nor it's "mubin" (clear).There were only a few dozens of literal Arabs in time of revalation, so we can't talk about Qur'anic letters. It's not known that Muhammad sawa ever wrote anything (Qur'an said he didn't), so letters we're using are adopted by the people after him. I won't say if it's wrong or good, it is helpfull and since Allah swt is hafiz of the Qur'an we should not worry about it.
But all Qur'anic words and all its grammar rules are only for and from the Qur'an. We cannot take anything outside the Qur'an and (dis)prove anything in the Qur'an. Qur'an is Furqan, but it's also Furqan for itself.
Haqq is proven truth.
You asked very interesting question about understanding the Qur'an. I thought that it's easy. Then I thought it's not easy but it's enough to do some things and I should know it. At the end, I understood that understanding the Qur'an is possible only if Allah swt wants.
But, since He promised a lot to us, we should follow it.For example, I was trying to understand where was Dhulqarnayn and who was he and all about it. I was reading those verses zillion times (sorry for using very huge number ), but I understood almost nothing. Then I stopped and prayed to Him to give me what is good for me and with what He's satisfied. Almost instantly I knew what I wanted to know.
Or, there're two example about munafiqs, from the start of Baqara. I was reading them a lot but couldn't understand, until I understood them in a second.
Duas and salihat (good deeds) are helpfull for the knowledge, but we should also pray only for khayr (good) and His satisfaction, because we know nothing and He knows what is good for us.But, in any case, we should follow only what we understood ourselves. It's better to understand one word in a month then to follow others' "truth".
I hope this will help with His 'izn.
Allah's bless and salam.
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Is it forbidden to use very huge numbers?
No, but whenever somebody's talking about what we can't understand (as very huge or small numbers) we should discard these informations.
hansolo, I will join your prayers and I wish you and yours all best, and to all Muslims and believers.
Allah's bless and salam.
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No, but whenever somebody's talking about what we can't understand (as very huge or small numbers) we should discard these informations.
So the "may Allah forgive you" was just a friendly note and had nothing to do with using big numbers?
btw I read a couple of your posts and I did not understand much of them, should we discard these informations of yours?
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So the "may Allah forgive you" was just a friendly note and had nothing to do with using big numbers?
btw I read a couple of your posts and I did not understand much of them, should we discard these informations of yours?
Yes, my brother, you should discard everything you don't understand, we all should. But, of course, we all can believe what we want to believe. This is only for a belief ('iman), it's not for deen, which all should obey.
Yes, "may Allah forgive you" was a friendly prayer for a brother. I didn't want to comment about the light and numbers, but when he compared Qur'an with DNA I had to.Allah's bless and salam.
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Yes, my brother, you should discard everything you don't understand, we all should.
Then I am afraid we will not learn much from each other. We can at least try to understand what the other is talking about no? We might neglect some value information.
Yes, "may Allah forgive you" was a friendly prayer for a brother.
Allah's bless and salam.
Ok then I totally misunderstood.
Salaam and welcome to the forum handshake
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Then I am afraid we will not learn much from each other. We can at least try to understand what the other is talking about no? We might neglect some value information.
Ok then I totally misunderstood.Salaam and welcome to the forum handshake
Thank you for your welcome. handshake
To teach something from each other at least on of us should be "mua'llim" for some topic, which means that (s)he has to posses 'ilm (knowledge) and is able to teach others. But if others are not understand they can learn nothing, right? It's good we can ask for further explanations, it may help to understand. I don't understand why you asking this? You are accepting what you can't understand, or?I answered only the first part of your question about the huge numbers. There's nothing bad in "may Allah forgive you", we all can forget, and brother probably forgot that we should talk only what we understand, and we can't understand "light years" for sure.
Good night to all from Serbia, have a nice day/night.
Allah's bless and salam.
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welcome to forum aladin...