U KNOW ANY JINN?
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Peace be upon you Saladin,
With all due respect, I see nothing valid in the above discussion.
If you did not see it it is HEARSAY, just like hadith of buckari.
Jinn means "hidden", thats all. Why are you trying to make it into some monster? Why is there a need to beleive in demons?
The faculties within you that govern your life are HIDDEN(jinn) , thats all. Very simple.
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You say that Jinn means hidden and your addition of the word "thats all" signifies this as a definite definition. You also say that these Hidden faculties govern our lives. The Qur'an says very little about Jinn and I have never read anything to make me believe that Jinn are exclusively responsible for governing our lives. Is there a particular ayat you can reference that aided you in your definite and "very simple" conclusion? I say this because, based on all the verses I have come across, the entire concept of Jinn seems complicated...largely because of the vagueness of their description.
Peace be upon you Saladin,
With all due respect, I see nothing valid in the above discussion.
If you did not see it it is HEARSAY, just like hadith of buckari.
Jinn means "hidden", thats all. Why are you trying to make it into some monster? Why is there a need to beleive in demons?
The faculties within you that govern your life are HIDDEN(jinn) , thats all. Very simple.
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Jinn means "hidden", thats all.
If it means 'hidden', could they also be hidden in OUR bodies? Since our mind/head is our innerworld, could it also mean that it's THEIR world?
The reason why I'm asking those questions is because I had some conversations with a djinn named Robert. He told me that djinns live in our bodies and that they 'lead' us. There are good and bad djinns, the good ones lead us on the right path and the bad ones (he told me they're called satans) lead us on the 'evil' path.
What do you guys think? Could the djinn be telling the truth?
The first time 'Robert' came to me, he told me he was sent from God. He told me he was a good spirit, leading me on the right path. He even told me what I did wrong and what I had to change about myself (bad habits etc.). He even let me look into my subconsciousness. Teached me how to control my anger, have patience, talk polite and show respect/love. He was the djinn who was leading me to the right path and that's how I became interested in the Quran. And that's how I searched the internet looking for answers about Islam, because I was questioning a lot of stuff and actually didn't want to get involved with islam (I was to negative about islam).
He said it's your own spirit and the djinns in you who lead you to act right or behave bad. In the end it's your choice.
Your opinion please?
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Peace Kyle,
Iblis is indeed a jinn. Jinn only means hidden. There are good jinn(malaika) and bad jinn(shayteen). No one on this forum disagrees that Iblis is a jinn. What some disagree to is that Iblis WAS a malaika.
Please clarify as to who or what is "Iblis" as per your understanding?
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Hello kyle,
following zulf post and your question
i saw some inexplainable light a short while ago on my terrasse - it pushed open my bay window and just vanished inside my appartment. I was absolutely petrified (even though there was nothing evil about it) but an african friend sitting next to me just said hello to it... he had seen it too and it didn't bother him - he's kind of used to it. Two days later my son of 8 also saw something... It has vanished since, alhamdullelah.
No discussion involved in this case, but another friend of mine sometimes has visitors she discusses with. She's a medium since she was a small girl.
There are things one cannot just explain logically even though a lot is BS is going on around such stories as well for sure!
Peace, elke
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There are things one cannot just explain logically even though a lot is BS is going on around such stories as well for sure!
Peace, elke
Khi- Salam. I wldnt say "which one cannot explain logically" but rather "which one cannot explain by normal natural laws or conditions which we are used to regularly" because everything can be explained logically, yes even ghosts. We can say tht it's an energy acting froma parallel universe for example. What we cannot do is explain it naturally for under "normal" situations we wouldnt expect such to occur though that doesnt mean it's impossible. Illgical would be is eg a tall short man appear infront of you because something/one ccannoit be tall and short the same time. GOD Bless!
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Peace be upon you Elke,
I have no knowledge of such things so I cannot speak on it as instructed by this reading.
So for now, I can only go with "jinn" meaning the faculties within mankind that are hidden.
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SaLaM Idolfree and everyone
After the 1947 war with india, My grandfather who was a general in the army, moved into the Pakistan. The house he moved into was previously occupied by hindus who were killed, decapitated and what not. My grandmothers swears that the spirit of these hindus was still in the house coz everything in the rooms would be thrown down. It was like, she would and clean up the rooom and by the time she went down and came upstairs again, everything would bt just thrown on the floor again.
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hi Jaxal,
After the 1947 war with india,
it wasnt a war. it was partition!
she would and clean up the rooom and by the time she went down and came upstairs again, everything would bt just thrown on the floor again.
propably wind(ever heard of it?) had something to do with that? )
Human mind is very tricky. it will believe anything u command it to believe!
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SaLaM PM and Joe
Pm
propably wind(ever heard of it?) had something to do with that?
And how will wind come in a closed room with no windows? roll
Human mind is very tricky. it will believe anything u command it to believe!
So you dont beleive in the existance of jinns or spirits?
Joe
When do human spirits become jinn now
I have never said that ? . I dont think spirtis EVER become jinns.
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Peace,
So the point of mentioning them was? Of course I would assume that any 'unnatural' occurrence you will speak of is of the jinn based on your earlier posts about jinn or women screaming from wells. Also based on a thread about jinn. Then if you're talking about sprirts and not jinn you're on the wrong thread. Till now your posts have just confused me since you've confirmed that they are about human spirits.
Joe
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SaLaM Joe
So the point of mentioning them was?
Becoz i wanted to? wtf
Of course I would assume that any 'unnatural' occurrence you will speak of is of the jinn based
It could have been jinns. It could have been spirits. Only Allah the all mighty knows that.
Till now your posts have just confused me
You get confused easily .
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Peace,
Becoz i wanted to? wtf
Okay you wanted to. So how does that help anyone in this discussion about the jinn?
It could have been jinns. It could have been spirits. Only Allah the all mighty knows that.
Then I doubt mentioning them is of any benefit if they are not your proofs for what jinn are or do.
You get confused easily .
At first I thought your stories or sightings were your proof for jinn. Now that you've explained that you are not speaking of jinn I understand. I do get confused easily when things are not making sense. My bewilderment is solely based on your off-topic responses.
Joe
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SaLaM Joe
Okay you wanted to. So how does that help anyone in this discussion about the jinn?
Not for YOU to judge.
Then I doubt mentioning them is of any benefit if they are not your proofs for what jinn are or do.
Not for YOU to judge.
I do get confused easily when things are not making sense.
And it dont make sense to you becoz you believe jinns are emotions. Your bewilderment is soley based on your understanding of jinns. D
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Peace,
What are spirits? I thought once a human dies, there is a barrier till they day they are raised again (2399-100)...so...what are they doing bemoaning their fate and roaming freely back here?!? Additonally, until they are raised, they do not know of what has transpired since they have been gone (5117), in that case are these jinn identity thieves as well?!?