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An essay: Who created God?

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    The_Sardar
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    Peace Bender,The Sardar.

    Richard Dawkins now believes in Intelligent design!

    http//www.liveleak.com/view?i=ca5_1226724281

    God bless .
    Peace.

    Seems Dawkins supporters disagree with you. Not me by the way im a muslim monotheist so i acknowleged God as the Lord of the Worlds.

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      Man_of_Faith
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      The way the "Semites" portrayed / see their God is Illogical..

      You better change that into deluded clerics and scholars. The understanding of faith by insightful ones such as Moses and Jesus was very different and they were S(h)emites too.

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        Jafar
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        You better change that into deluded clerics and scholars. The understanding of faith by insightful ones such as Moses and Jesus was very different and they were S(h)emites too.

        Of course there are always diamonds among the mud..
        I'm not sure about Moses though.. never met him in person.. and he think he's having a conversation with God (if the semitic legend is true)

        Deluded Clerics, Scholars and their fanatic followers of "Semitic God" who viewed God as if it's a human..

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          Bender
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          Peace Bender,The Sardar.

          Richard Dawkins now believes in Intelligent design!

          http//www.liveleak.com/view?i=ca5_1226724281

          God bless .
          Peace.

          Hi GL,

          Not really. He believes there might have been an ID some long time ago somewhere in the universe who might have brought this all to existence.
          And this ID-er(s) came in to exsistense by evolution.
          This makes absolutely no sense as his whole theory is taking place in a universe. From where did that universe came from?

          Salaam Bender

          That is the fundamental question? Do we know what God is? We cannot compare Him with any creation.

          Nothing is like Him (4211)

          And nothing is equivalent to Him. 1124

          Salaam Novice,

          I believe we can know more about Him but the difficulty is that we quickly make images in our mind to comprehend it.
          If I say God is The Creator, a lot of people will see some creature in their mind who is creating something. But that is wrong.
          God never said He is a creature who creates, but "simply" that He is The Creator.

          Of course there are always diamonds among the mud..
          I'm not sure about Moses though.. never met him in person.. and he think he's having a conversation with God (if the semitic legend is true)

          Deluded Clerics, Scholars and their fanatic followers of "Semitic God" who viewed God as if it's a human..

          In a post of you some weeks ago you said that you can see, feel and hear God.
          Looks almost that you see Him also as a human.

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            imrankhawaja
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            creature is also derived from create or he been created ... God is not a creature or anything ... what can be imagineable...

            if God is uncreated by default we cannot assign anything wordy to him... to explain his nature..

            everybody must have some imagination regarding God , but whatever we imagine comes up through the interpretation of our view of eye sight . like light, sound, human, mountain ,sun moon star. whatever . before watching the far side of moon people just can imagine whats there once it explored it can be thinkable.. . for sure whatever we imagine about God its just imagination nothing else. infact how can we think, understand or imagine something which we have no knowledge off..

            there is nothing like God

            no eye can grasp the image of God while he can grasp the image of everything...

            I also have imagination which first time I m going to share but I know its just imagination...

            what I imagine is the source of everything whatever is in heavens and earth , a force that governs all the sources and control it without requiring anything else from anyother source all the source time space and whatever we have no knowledge off is under his command and he generates all the things from himself while he himself generate from nothing ...
            its actually confusing I cannot explain it even the way I think in my mind,, and after all I know its also an imagination , the highness of God is much more than what we even think...

            peace

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              good_logic
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              Peace Bender ,The Sardar.

              To some what is Intelligent designer?

              Anyhow ,they keep running from the truth!
              https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJoOhbf3_Ts

              The Creator has left clear signs.
              GOD bless.
              Peace.

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                I believe we can know more about Him but the difficulty is that we quickly make images in our mind to comprehend it.
                If I say God is The Creator, a lot of people will see some creature in their mind who is creating something. But that is wrong.
                God never said He is a creature who creates, but "simply" that He is The Creator.

                Thanks Bender handshake

                Human being cannot stop imagining about God.

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                  The_Sardar
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                  Thanks Bender handshake

                  Human being cannot stop imagining about God.

                  Nobody can think who God is. Who knows maybe the Lord of the Worlds is much better than we all thought.

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                    Timotheus
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                    Peace,
                    Alhamdullilah, very good essay.

                    Some of Gods most beautifull names are;
                    al-hayy - the ever living, eternal
                    al-qayoom - the self-subsisting, self-existing
                    al-khalaq - the creator of all things

                    i have also been involved in discussions and debates, and generaly this is the others main argument.

                    to me, the exsistence of God, with all his glorious and beautifull names and attributes is the only possible logical and reasonable conclusion one can make as to why we are here and why Gods creation is made in such a perfect and balanced manner.

                    as the quran says 'Surely, in the Heavens and the Earth are signs for those who believe'

                    Pondering Gods creation is one of the big reasons i came to believe in Him, and the Quran, everything is created so perfectly balanced.

                    Glory be to God, he surely is the Most Great, Most Magnificent, worthy of all praise and worship, the Most Merciful, Most Compassionate

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                      Bender
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                      Peace Bender ,The Sardar.

                      To some what is Intelligent designer?

                      Anyhow ,they keep running from the truth!
                      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJoOhbf3_Ts

                      The Creator has left clear signs.
                      GOD bless.
                      Peace.

                      Peace GL,

                      It doesn't take a scientist to understand what's going on baby, it's just a little crush...
                      aaarrrrgggghhhh I have that girly song in my head >(
                      Worst thing is I forgot her name, and I hate to google it, I want to find it on my own >(

                      Sorry I wanted to say this
                      It really doesn't take a scientist or science to understand that it's not possible to have a creation without its Creator.

                      Thanks Bender handshake

                      Human being cannot stop imagining about God.

                      I don't know for what but you are welcome and you also thanks ) handshake

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                        The_Sardar
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                        It really doesn't take a scientist or science to understand that it's not possible to have a creation without its Creator.

                        Some people dont want there to be a creator, i think a few wants to erase the Lord of the Worlds signs but that wont work at all.

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                          Timotheus
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                          Some people dont want there to be a creator, i think a few wants to erase the Lord of the Worlds signs but that wont work at all.

                          Peace,

                          this is true, but Praise God

                          932 They want to extinguish the light of God with their mouths, but God refuses such and lets His light continue, even if the rejecters hate it.
                          933 He is the One who has sent His messenger with the guidance and the system of truth, so that it will expose all other systems, even if the polytheists hate it.

                          Peace

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                            imrankhawaja
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                            @ Richard dawkins..

                            natural selection is not working on lot of issues on natural world..

                            its something like coding of human being , coding a animal, coding of everything is already there by some desingner..

                            simply if we look into computer programme , for getting "output" we must write the coding which is required to acquire that the desired result.. if a dot is misplaces whole programme collapse. and output will not be achieved.

                            same a human being was human being ages ago , a goat was goat ages ago, horse was horse. monkey was monkey..

                            there is no missing links. there are missing brains cells in the head of athiests lol

                            the species of different kind like dogs have hundreds of different species but they call dog..
                            we have different races but we call ourself human beings.
                            snakes have different species but they all are snakes..
                            monkey have different species but they are monkeys...

                            if really something happened what they think about natural selection the core functioning of coding will not work.
                            what we better understand since the era of computer popularised in the end of 2000 its new century new technologies . a computer programme is best to understand we also have programme inside us and every programme of human body is interlocked with another programme ...same like computer software.

                            monkey or apes dna structure cannot simply work on human beings.. by some random accident..
                            there is a designer a intelligent designer behind all this.. what we know as lord of universe..

                            peace

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                              hawk99
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                              Peace imrankhawaja, I agree with your post except

                              we have different races but we call ourself human beings.

                              There are no different races only the human race! There are different nations.
                              Race is a social construct. God created humans of various features.
                              Who created God is a non-starter.

                              Human being cannot stop imagining about God.

                              Knowing God by his attributes is all I have and that knowledge
                              will have to suffice!

                              All have a blessed Ramadan!

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                Peace imrankhawaja, I agree with your post except

                                There are no different races only the human race! There are different nations.
                                Race is a social construct. God created humans of various features.
                                Who created God is a non-starter.

                                peace hawk,

                                i mean when nations mix with each other they make mix race or nation...

                                may be grammer error.but by race i mean nations.. as we know nations are well describe according to the area and atmosphere , in the forms we usually see a race column in which its written , Asian white African or mix race ... lolxx

                                and who created God is non starter, i think i could not get get u there, is it something non starter that also exist , pleae tell me what u want to say apparently i m unable to understand

                                peace
                                God bless you

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                                  hanslan
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                                  who created god? Man did for the reason he needs a pacifier in life - someone to blame.

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    its also a factor of trust...

                                    we get born , we believe what our parents tell us to beleive... when they told us we are your parents

                                    we did not really prove it for sure ... if we dnt have a faith on them...

                                    God created all this we have a faith on him because we know this universe required a creator , this universe ask for a creator...

                                    he told us he created all this we believed on him because we know its created...

                                    example if i bring a cake infront of you ?
                                    and ask you is this created by someone can you name it?
                                    you probably well understand that yeh its a creation but , who created it i m not sure...
                                    untill the baker of cake himself tells u i m the creator of this cake...

                                    next question you may ask ok tell me whats inside the cake if you really create it...
                                    he may tell you a layer of white choclate and when you find that choclate you get more convince ?

                                    next question you may ask . i dnt beleive its you who created it , it can b a guess..?
                                    so then i have to create infront of you to make you believe ?

                                    in case of universe i did not come accross anybody who can claim that is my creation , this big type of claim only God can do.. thats why god saying in the book again and again... produce something like that if you are truthful...

                                    becoz he is the only one who knows the secrets of heavens and earth... right now there is no partner in his kingship who claim i created all this we did not find any partner yet ...

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                                        Dersaadet
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                                        In my opinion, nobody created God, God is there already, but human history , a human learn and start to abstract or maybe I use to isolate from nature , found the God and start the believing. For example Abraham was good man don’t believe after the ask question himself is sun a god, no it’s dawning and going, star a god no it going too by the day. Then he found the God. Think about it between Abraham and Adam how many prophet came. If we could ask to Adam who is God? Probably he would answer us, my dad or my mom.
                                        Because we learn from last book, God not she or he .when I read the English Quran I am seeing for God he, that’s interesting. Where are come from these translation I don’t know.

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