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    Adam_The_Warner
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    Peace everybody,

    I have recently been blessed with the opportunity to convert the the monotheist translation of the quran to text format, which i am planning, god willing, on using for various things including incorporating into a translation that can be used with the Zekr quran study software, as its avaliable english translations do not include a good monotheist translation to my knowledge, I have gotten as far as converting the pdf to text, and stripping all the extra-quranic stuff such as page numbers, chapters, index etc, and god willing, if i can figure it out tonight (before i have to go to work in 2 hours lol) i will be able to join the lines back together so that each ayah takes up one line, as this is the format that Zekr uses, and also means it can easily be converted into other formats like XML (to easily be parsed, tagged etc) and SQL (for a relational database)

    The reason i may need some assistance is, pdf to text convertors can produce errors, and also since i used scripting to strip everything apart from the ayahs, and god willing soon, to join up the lines, i may have unintentional made some errors myself, so if anyone is willing to help, over the next little while, a small portion each or something to read through and verify that its all there, and that there are no errors, that would be much appreciated, and god willing, rewarded by our lord. basicaly it would just involve checking it against the print version for errors

    if you would like to be involved, just reply, or send me a message or something, and we can divide it up, and each read a section, and have a checklist or something, so that everyone can see the progress and choose sections..

    otherwise i dont mind, and would enjoy to read the quran cover to cover again, but it will take some time, as i will, god willing be busy with other things also..

    i also wanted to start this topic just to let everyone know what im up to, and also one last point..

    I dont have a windows computer, or access to one, so if anyone has a windows computer with Zekr, or could install it, so we can figure out where they store their files etc, to be able to install the new translation, that would also be much appreciated, as its different on windows than on linux, prehaps also Mac OSX, which in theory uses the same system as Linux, but the files are probably in different places. i tried looking on the Zekr wiki, but it seems to be down, and has been for some time (6+ months)

    Peace

    May the Peace be with you,

    Are you planning on making a webapp?

    Can i assist you in your work if it's going to be a Quranic! application?

    I study at the moment appdevelopment - webdevelopment. Please feel free to pm me, and by the will of God i will be able to contribute in the work. And may my Lord accept it and make it heavy in the scales!

    But what is "Zekr"?

    Peace.

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      Timotheus
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      May the Peace be with you,

      Are you planning on making a webapp?

      Can i assist you in your work if it's going to be a Quranic! application?

      I study at the moment appdevelopment - webdevelopment. Please feel

      to pm me, and by the will of God i will be able to contribute in the work. And may my Lord accept it and make it heavy in the scales!

      But what is "Zekr"?

      Peace.

      peace, at work at the moment but, god willing i will msg you l8r

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        Adam_The_Warner
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        peace, at work at the moment but, god willing i will msg you l8r

        Good, please feel free to pm me later.

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          Timotheus
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          peace, this is as far as i have got so far with the translation in text format, god willing i will fix the weird characters (must be some encoding issue with my uploading method) because it turned all the speech marks into foreign looking characters.. the copy on my computer does not have that issue though... /

          basicaly now it just needs to be checked against the print/pdf copy for consistancy, as i have noticed in places there are multiple spaces, or where lines were joined there are in places some words that look som-ething like th-is with hyphens in them.

          I have checked and there are 6347 lines, which, if my maths are correct this late at night, god willing means

          6236 numbered ayah +
          112 un-numbered bismallahs
          = 6348 lines

          its quite possible i accidentaly joined 2 verses together on one line when i was manualy touching up something.. god willing tommorow i will make a script to count each verse number, and look for a missing one at the start of the line, and also tell how many verses in each chapter, that is of course if this number of ayah is correct, it is just from a breif look online

          either my maths is incorrect or ive made a mistake somewhere... although i dont know exactly how they calculate theese verse numbers.. i will have to look into this further tommorow, god willing, and if anyone can help with any definitive info, please let me know

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            Timotheus
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            http//islamtogether.org/quran-monotheist-translation-for-check.txt

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              Adam_The_Warner
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              http//islamtogether.org/quran-monotheist-translation-for-check.txt

              Check the end of chapter 9.

              May my Lord Guide me.

              You ended with verse 128.

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                Check the end of chapter 9.

                May my Lord Guide me.

                You ended with verse 128.

                Peace
                Praise god, i have fixed the missing verse, i just copied it from the original pdf. I also have, go willing, fixed occasions where there are multiple spaces between words.
                still unsure what is causing the speech marks to render as weird symbols. can someone confirm this or not, for me? as i wonder whether it is my web browser.. i will, god willing have to look into that though.
                now all i am aware of that needs to be done is removing hyphens from where lines were joined, which, god willing should be simple enough. and then i guess read through just to double check.

                god willing after that is finished, we will have a good translation in plain text format, and i will work on how to make it work with Zekr application, and also convert it to XML and SQL, possibly JSON, so that it can be used in web apps/ databases / programs etc..

                Alhamdullilah, Peace

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                  Timotheus
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                  Peace,

                  by the way Adam The Warner, and anyone else interested, Zekr (arabic for rememberance) is quran study software, it is written in Java, and has relatively good search functions. there are some good rescources it makes use of, which i will have to look into the licenses off, like the information on root words, their occurances etc. also they utilize the tanzil quran text.

                  i dont know how active development is though, as there wiki is down, and has been for at least 6 months or so, and if i recall correctly i emailed them about that long ago, and havent recieved a reply. that could have been tanzil though, i cant remember, mash'allah

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                    I also uploaded my latest progress, with a simpler name, easy to remember, god willing..

                    http//islamtogether.org/quran.txt

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                      Peace
                      Praise god, i have fixed the missing verse, i just copied it from the original pdf. I also have, go willing, fixed occasions where there are multiple spaces between words.
                      still unsure what is causing the speech marks to render as weird symbols. can someone confirm this or not, for me? as i wonder whether it is my web browser.. i will, god willing have to look into that though.
                      now all i am aware of that needs to be done is removing hyphens from where lines were joined, which, god willing should be simple enough. and then i guess read through just to double check.

                      god willing after that is finished, we will have a good translation in plain text format, and i will work on how to make it work with Zekr application, and also convert it to XML and SQL, possibly JSON, so that it can be used in web apps/ databases / programs etc..

                      Alhamdullilah, Peace

                      So what are you trying at the moment? Just making it a .txt file? I see all letters? Where do you see the wierd symbols?

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                        I also uploaded my latest progress, with a simpler name, easy to remember, god willing..

                        http//islamtogether.org/quran.txt

                        Oh i see now the weird symbols. This maybe comes from the copy and pasting from a file to another file?

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                          Isn't it smarter to just put them verse by verse in the database? Because you will have to struggle a lot this way since you will need to seperate the verse numbers and verses anyways?

                          What about a simple CRUD system for uploading the Quran into the database? It will take some time, but this way you don't have to work that circuitous?

                          Only thing you have to do. Create a CRUD with the CMD/terminal/etc. Takes 30min/1hour.

                          Then enter the whole Quran. Keep everything seperated so that you can make an object of it?

                          Anyways, i am not a proffesional developer. Still a student.

                          May my Lord guide me.

                          Please contact me on facebook if you feel the need to work together. I have added you, my name is Osama ibn Mohammed.

                          Peace.

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                            Isn't it smarter to just put them verse by verse in the database? Because you will have to struggle a lot this way since you will need to seperate the verse numbers and verses anyways?

                            What about a simple CRUD system for uploading the Quran into the database? It will take some time, but this way you don't have to work that circuitous?

                            Only thing you have to do. Create a CRUD with the CMD/terminal/etc. Takes 30min/1hour.

                            Then enter the whole Quran. Keep everything seperated so that you can make an object of it?

                            Anyways, i am not a proffesional developer. Still a student.

                            May my Lord guide me.

                            Please contact me on facebook if you feel the need to work together. I have added you, my name is Osama ibn Mohammed.

                            Peace.

                            peace,

                            I have no idea what CRUD is lol.

                            basicaly, it is, if god has willed, very simple.

                            heres the logic..

                            basicaly before i can do anything else, i need to strip it to the point that it is just lines of text, one verse per line. this is easy, if god has willed, using regex pattterns and tools like sed (this is how ive made the progress i have so far)

                            at that point what you end up with is one ayah per line. plain text.

                            at that point you have something you can just loop over and do whatever with it.

                            i would (and plan to, if god has willed) use python, as its what i know the most of, and make a dictionary object containing the surah numbers, and how many verses in each,

                            then use a few nested for statements to loop over everything

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                              peace,

                              I have no idea what CRUD is lol.

                              basicaly, it is, if god has willed, very simple.

                              heres the logic..

                              basicaly before i can do anything else, i need to strip it to the point that it is just lines of text, one verse per line. this is easy, if god has willed, using regex pattterns and tools like sed (this is how ive made the progress i have so far)

                              at that point what you end up with is one ayah per line. plain text.

                              at that point you have something you can just loop over and do whatever with it.

                              i would (and plan to, if god has willed) use python, as its what i know the most of, and make a dictionary object containing the surah numbers, and how many verses in each,

                              then use a few nested for statements to loop over everything

                              Interesting, hmm.

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                                Timotheus
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                                Peace,

                                i though i would update, i have now added the translation in format that can be used with zekr, please see;

                                http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608679.0

                                for instructions, and the download link,

                                also if anyone wants to contribute to other translations in other languages for zekr or to make there own, also have a look, as i explained a little bit how i did it, and zekr wiki does not work..

                                Peace

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