Was the Quran we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet ?
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I found this https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HDFiC2boQ
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I found this https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HDFiC2boQ
i have plan to see these pages i m also living in birmingham....
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Peace all,
I found this https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-HDFiC2boQ
There were only 2 fragments (folios) that were discovered not the entire Quran manuscript as the title deceptively implies. Contrast that with approximately 15,000 parchment fragments from almost 900 Qurans that were discovered in Sanaa which were carbon dated to around the same time.
Peace
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All praise due to God, Lord of the worlds.
Beautiful, by the will of God i saw that video a while ago.
I should pay a visit to that library because i live in the Netherlands, not far from England.
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All praise due to God, Lord of the worlds.
Beautiful, by the will of God i saw that video a while ago.
I should pay a visit to that library because i live in the Netherlands, not far from England.
be my guest when you come .. inshallah we will go together... i live in the brmingham
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be my guest when you come .. inshallah we will go together... i live in the brmingham
By the will of God, my goal is to go first to Jerusalem and bring a copy of the Torah, Psalms, Gospel and Quran with me )!
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be my guest when you come .. inshallah we will go together... i live in the brmingham
is the exhibition still on right?
how did you find the manuscript, worth paying a visit?) -
is the exhibition still on right?
how did you find the manuscript, worth paying a visit?its untill 5th of august 2016 hardly ten days left , we need to pay a visit to birmingham library...
they are not telling the story from where did they get it , i think as soon exibition finish they will introduce more pages , and earn money everytime thats what the idea i have in my mind God knows best.. its still a mystery how they found these pages...
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its untill 5th of august 2016 hardly ten days left , we need to pay a visit to birmingham library...
they are not telling the story from where did they get it , i think as soon exibition finish they will introduce more pages , and earn money everytime thats what the idea i have in my mind God knows best.. its still a mystery how they found these pages...
That's interesting, the official story is that a researches bumped into a set of old manuscripts piled up somewhere and decided to radio carbon date them (something along those lines); how many pages are there at the moment? have they said that there are more pages to be introduced ?
do you know where the manuscript is going ? I called them and they said that it will be at the museum until the 3rd of August but forgot to ask where it goes after and whether it's possible to see it.
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That's interesting, the official story is that a researches bumped into a set of old manuscripts piled up somewhere and decided to radio carbon date them (something along those lines); how many pages are there at the moment? have they said that there are more pages to be introduced ?
do you know where the manuscript is going ? I called them and they said that it will be at the museum until the 3rd of August but forgot to ask where it goes after and whether it's possible to see it.
no i dnt have any idea where it will go afterwards... and i dnt know they have more pages ... but the official story is just a cover up there is something behind it with the passage of time they will let us know... now adays every fiels is more concerned about money rather than truth... thats what they are doing... its untill 5th august i think..
btw are you from uk
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no i dnt have any idea where it will go afterwards... and i dnt know they have more pages ... but the official story is just a cover up there is something behind it with the passage of time they will let us know... now adays every fiels is more concerned about money rather than truth... thats what they are doing... its untill 5th august i think..
btw are you from uk
yes I am from manchester and you?
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yes I am from manchester and you?
and i m from birmingham,, so come if u get a chance ,, before 5th of nxt month we will go together... wht u say?
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and i m from birmingham,, so come if u get a chance ,, before 5th of nxt month we will go together... wht u say?
I will try to see if I can make it this saturday ) check your PM
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I will try to see if I can make it this saturday ) check your PM
yeh thanx i got it ,,, see ya
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Was the Quran that we have now written and authorised by Mohammed the Prophet?
If so, could you please elaborate on it since i am seeking for the science of it.
Quick answer We don't know...
There isn't any statement of "I'm Muhammad, and I have thoroughly reviewed this document and declare it to be true as per my knowledge. It contains X sentences, Y words and Z letters"...
Most probably, if refering to the "Standard Islamic History" it wasn't written and authorized by Mohammad the prophet as it was compiled by a caliph long after Mohammad's death.
But does it really matter?
That's why one should not take a book (any book) as if it's an idol..
Does Tao The Ching that we have now written and authorized by Lao Tse?
The same answer We don't know..
And for the majority of it's readers, it doesn't really matter.. as they don't treat the book as idol or consider it as holy..The book of Gospels (especially Mark and Matthew) really INSPIRED me, it's opening up a new idea, a new point of view.. although it wasn't written and/or authorized by Jesus (and / or God).. And so does Book of Isaiah, Daniel and Jeremiah.. and many of other books..
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That's why one should not take a book (any book) as if it's an idol..
yeh thats logical.. nothing should b idol including books, messenger, code or anything...
but yeh about quran that book is not of muhammad, its from God and yeh God authorised it ... thats really matter...
quran is a book of God to the whole humankind...
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quran is a book of God to the whole humankind...
i don't think so...
The Quran is so "Israelitic" and so "Semitic"....
Non Semites or those who are not exposed or familiar with Semitic cultural background will not find it either compelling or interesting or relevant.. Some good examples has been discussed on various thread on this forum..Yet it also doesn't matter...
The "writings of God" (metaphorically speaking) can be found on the entire universe around you..
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i don't think so...
The Quran is so "Israelitic" and so "Semitic"....
Non Semites or those who are not exposed or familiar with Semitic cultural background will not find it either compelling or interesting or relevant.. Some good examples has been discussed on various thread on this forum..Yet it also doesn't matter...
The "writings of God" (metaphorically speaking) can be found on the entire universe around you..
And it cannot be forged by anyone...the signs of God in methphorically/ physically/ literatureally found on entire universe.. but with the passage of time things get updated the things that human being use... specially..
so the updated version is in hand and it challanges its worth,, isralitic scripture although share the same approach but when comes to challange its quran that provide a channel of logical judgement...other scriptures failed to provide scientific or logical challanges even mathematics erros ... and contradictions... but with quran its not the case..
as far the threads and misconfusion regaridng quran its either human weak understanding or interpretation by some secterian agenda... but truth stands firm ...
but again if u have soomething to share with me let me know something which make me revise my understanding,, becoz in the start i also try to find a error in quran but every time i failed ,, may be some of ur points will help me finding the error or illogical fallacy..
peace
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Imran,
Besides that Quran is very primitive style in the sectarian interpretation which I find a huge contradiction. Many times it is incoherent jumping from topic to topic. There are cases where there is a clause within the passage which is misfit.
Nothing can be made of fire meaning it is scientifically incorrect. Fire is just a visual phenomenon of a heated object which is disintegrating.
The sectarian interpretation of Quran has multiple problems. The subjective impression of divine writing blinds people from being objective. Quran is coming from Rabb, but it needs to be read as it was intended by its author then too.
Quran is primarily intended to teach about Rabb as an instruction to someone who already knows the truth about Rabb. It contains many pedagogical tips and tricks.
Be well
Amenuel