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    Salam,

    Are the 3000 and 5000 battle-trained angels mentioned in chapter 2 in physical form, looking like humans?

    And the messengers to Lot, are they angels too?

    Thank you

    Salam

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      angels are the creation of God with very different set of rules , they can change whatever shape they want, they may become visible invisible, remeber terminator 2 lol
      they can regulate the winds and change the laws of natural forces ...

      in the event of lot what we see abraham and lot encounter them , they were in the shape of handsome young boys,, but they refused to eat the food..

      on second occassion the nation of lot was after them, when lot get scared and they told him dnt you worry they cant harm a single hair of us...

      actually there i must have stop, becoz quran tells us not full details of night but i can imagine when there is a situation its quite funny though let me guess

      i think when they were asking from lot to handover these boys lot offered them the girls and they refused , and lot get scared as we know the nation was wicked people they also rob on highways so they want them forcefully and there the martial arts of these angles started and just these two angels knocked everybody down whoever come to chase them... voodoo the first action movie of history lol although its not the part of quran but i think they teach them a lesson at first with their power punches and kicks rotfl yay when nation was harrassing young boys and lot.

      some events are funny though..

      the second part is people may ask if God have to send the punishment why send messengers.. for this my understanding is to regulate the climate suits for the asteriods .. God knows best but when angels come for punish a nation there is a sudden change in climate ...

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        Salam,

        So when God sent 3000 (or was it 5000) battle-trained angels, were they visible? Did Muhammed know they were angels before the battle or did he just see them as believers striving in God's cause (not knowing they were angels until God's revelations (did they come before or after the battle?))?
        Or were they simply invisible and fought while invisible?

        Thank you
        Salam

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          we only know what quran told us, and 3000 and five thousand are two different occassions

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            we only know what quran told us, and 3000 and five thousand are two different occassions

            In which ayas is that said?

            Salaam

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              In which ayas is that said?

              Salaam

              i try to tell people plantey of times to read quran throughout the subject for understanding better ... but i think i m failed...

              any way here are three verses of same subject i will tell what quran is actually adressing there... contradiction in quran = impossible...

              3124 When you said to those who acknowledge "Is it not enough for you that your Lord would supply you with three thousand of the controllers sent down?"
              3125 If you take a firm stand and be on guard, and the enemy launches on you a sudden attack, your Lord will aid you with five thousand angels, specialized.
              3126 God made this but an allegory to give you glad tiding, and to comfort your hearts, since there is no victory contrary to the laws of God, the Almighty, the Wise.

              so as per my humble understanding God is infact saying everything is my control. winning losing controlling...

              the fiirst verse in which God send down three thousand very next verse God is tellingin case the situation is really horrible then i can enhance the quantity to five thousand... and in the very last verse 126 both verses get quite clear like crystal whats its all about...a satisfaction...

              hope you guys got it , and i will mention one more occassion with 1000 controllers

              89 You implored your Lord and He answered you "I will provide you with one thousand controllers as defenders."
              810 And God did not do this except to give you good news, and that your hearts may be assured by it. And victory is only from God; for God is Noble, Wise.

              same message again... what was presented by God before... in case of 3000 and 5000

              and sister huruf you better find references by your own next time it takes times to go through my notes to search things ,,, i m just kidding...

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