So...wait a sec! Is Mohammad P.B.U.H. The final messenger and prophet ?

imrankhawaja

ok i have another question quite an easy for everybody....

anybody know after prophet muhammad any messenger or prophet?

name them any if they qualified as prophet or messenger? apart from imposters

Man_of_Faith

What is the truth ?

Is there no concrete answer even today ?

Depends on how one interprets one single word in Quran, i.e. khatam. I would not translate it as end but more of impression or mark. Apart from khatam there is nothing saying this would be the last prophet.

Jafar

ok i have another question quite an easy for everybody....

anybody know after prophet muhammad any messenger or prophet?

name them any if they qualified as prophet or messenger? apart from imposters

Are there anyone after 600 AD who

Claim to be prophet YES (Hundreds or even Thousands)
Regarded as being a prophet by others (Although not claimed to be one) YES (Less than hundreds)
Asking (and threatening) others to bear testimony that he or she is a prophet YES (Very few)
Claimed or regarded him (or her) self as the last prophet YES (very few)

Example of names might be Joseph Smith, Guru Nanak, Bahaullah, Nostradamus, Maria (Of Fatima), Popes, Ghulam Ahmad, Ibn Wahab, Stalin, Khomeini, Kim Jong Il, Ho Chi Minh and hundreds of others.. If you're looking for names, here's few sources to mine
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_founders_of_religious_traditions
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_claimed_to_be_Jesus
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Buddha_claimants
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_who_have_been_considered_deities

As which one is impostors or not it depends on one sect / religion / political / cultural and personal point of view.. thus very subjective.. To some, Muhammad is an impostor....

The phenomenon is called
https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

Having said that, I don't see the issue here as important... as one thing for sure True God's revelation hasn't ended.. new knowledge are being introduced, more mystery are being revealed.. and it's a continuing process up to the future..

I'm more interested on WHY the "doctrine" / "dogma" of "Last Revelation" / "Last Prophet" exist..
(What drove them to came up with such thinking)

Bender

I'm more interested on WHY the "doctrine" / "dogma" of "Last Revelation" / "Last Prophet" exist..
(What drove them to came up with such thinking)

That's a good question!
I have no idea.
What do you think?

imrankhawaja

Example of names might be Joseph Smith, Guru Nanak, Bahaullah, Nostradamus, Maria (Of Fatima), Popes, Ghulam Ahmad, Ibn Wahab, Stalin, Khomeini, Kim Jong Il, Ho Chi Minh and hundreds of others.. If you're looking for names, here's few sources to mine

all of them must have some work survived by them,,, some of them even claim they are God or people claim they are God...

but logically go through their work and verify under the light of correctness . then let me know where this list stand...

verify the source through predictions, prophesy, accuracy, litereture... and then see whaere all these imposters are standing...

imrankhawaja

ok i make it simple,,

the message of quran = anything scripture that is perfectlly equal or more accurate than quran... if u find any from the list of hundreeds or thousands or in millions let me know about it... becoz what i study throughout my whole life i did not find a match of quran yet...

i still not claiming who is last who will be last but what i know after prophet no one really qualified as a true prophet... its 1432 years already passed...

Bender

i still not claiming who is last who will be last but what i know after prophet no one really qualified as a true prophet... its 1432 years already passed...

What special powers does this person have to possess to qualify according to you?

imrankhawaja

What special powers does this person have to possess to qualify according to you?

if you are asking about prophet of quran = then the scripture he brings is alive qualification that based on truth...

Bender

if you are asking about prophet of quran = then the scripture he brings is alive qualification that based on truth...

You said no one yet has qualified to your criteria to call him/her a prophet.
I was just wondering what criteria you have.
Is it correct that 1 of your criteria is that this person must bring with him/her a book as special as the quran?

imrankhawaja

by the way i m still surprised about that book by an arab, in the deserts in 700 ad . write ,predicts, telling past events, telling the nature of lot of things. telling the morals, and lot of stuff... with accuracy at amazing level...

after that lot of other people/individual/group of people write books and if we just took a book hundred years old by the most prominent writer of that times we find lot of contradictions in it...?

people are blind or people are unable to use reason hmm

brother bender my criteria is very simple based on easy learnings above is an example of the masterpiece that bring to us by prophet muhammad..

and you and other if they have doubt .. about what God revealed on to his servnts then bring your evidence in the shape of alternating scripture you can seek help from jinns as well if not then fear from the lord of universe... do u remeber these type of warnings in tht book lol

imrankhawaja

You said no one yet has qualified to your criteria to call him/her a prophet.
I was just wondering what criteria you have.
Is it correct that 1 of your criteria is that this person must bring with him/her a book as special as the quran?

the simple criteria is verification of claims through every aspect... i did verify it and i m satisfied,,,

yes the only criteria for me to bring a book more amazing than quran...

or a book in which the prophesis are at extreme just the prophesy of pharooh is enough ... do u know any book which predicts something more than 1300 years ago....? ? ?

Bender