"Faith No More?" or "Faith Forever?" Let's find the Truth.
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Salaam Peace to All,
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8- AL-LAH does not prohibit you from those who do not physically-fight you (=yuqatilookum) because of your Religion,
and do not drive you out (=yukhrijookum) of your homes,that you always deal kindly/generously with them and be equitable to them. For AL-LAH loves the equitable.
QURAN TESTAMENT 60/8
According to this Fundamental Principle that our Lord AL-LAH has perfectly commanded unto all of us above,
all Believers must always deal kindly/generously with all Peoples (whether they are atheist, agnostic, deist,
or jew or christian or arab, or hindu or buddhist, or gay or lesbian, or whomever else) on Earth and always be equitable to them.Remain in peace/salaam.
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Salaam/Peace F-N-M,
I have already sent to you this Invitation, twice, in your thread.
But you still did not reply to me (don't know why).http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608852.msg395157#msg395157
So please, read it again, my dear Fellow/Friend,
and you are always welcome here, if you want to have a friendly and Truthful Discussion with me,
one on one, here.Remain in peace/salaam.
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Salaam/Peace to All,
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85- So he (Zul Qarnain) pursued a way.
86- Until he reached the setting-point of the Sun (maghriba alShams); he found it setting into a sea (=fiy aynin), ...............
.........89- Then he (Zul Qarnain) pursued a way.
90- So when he reached the rising-point of the Sun (matlia alShams) he found it rising unto a people (=ala qawmin), .......QURAN TESTAMENT 18/85-86, 89-90
so in such a perfectly parallel manner above, we can clearly see that
in both cases above it is from the perspective of Zul Qarnain (PbuH)i.e. in his eyes, the Sun seems, from afar, as if it was
setting into a sea (=fiy aynin), ......
or then
rising unto a people (=ala qawmin), .......
which is a very normal and also most intriguing and beautiful thing to Human perception therein.
Remain in peace/salaam.
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Salaam/Peace to All,
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85- So he (Zul Qarnain) pursued a way.
86- Until he reached the setting-point of the Sun (maghriba alShams); he found it setting into a sea (=fiy aynin), ...............
.........89- Then he (Zul Qarnain) pursued a way.
90- So when he reached the rising-point of the Sun (matlia alShams) he found it rising unto a people (=ala qawmin), .......QURAN TESTAMENT 18/85-86, 89-90
so in such a perfectly parallel manner above, we can clearly see that
in both cases above it is from the perspective of Zul Qarnain (PbuH)i.e. in his eyes, the Sun seems, from afar, as if it was
setting into a sea (=fiy aynin), ......
or then
rising unto a people (=ala qawmin), .......
which is a very normal and also most intriguing and beautiful thing to Human perception therein.
Remain in peace/salaam.
I will return to you another time.
But quickly your translations are completely wrong.
- it's setting-place of the sun i.e a physical location (not setting point).
- it's not sea, it's spring.
It is physically impossible for a sun to set in a spring, unless the sun literally drops from the sky into a spring.
If you see the sun setting in a spring . Take a picture and send it to me.
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I will return to you another time.
But quickly your translations are completely wrong.
- it's setting-place of the sun i.e a physical location (not setting point).
- it's not sea, it's spring.
It is physically impossible for a sun to set in a spring, unless the sun literally drops from the sky into a spring.
If you see the sun setting in a spring . Take a picture and send it to me.
Salaam/Peace F-N-M,
welcome dear Fellow/Friend welcome
I'm happy that --after so many invitations-- you finally decided to reply to me,
for a friendly and Truthful Discussion here between you and me handshake one on one.So, let's start my dear Fellow/Friend,
your Question
- it's setting-place of the sun i.e a physical location (not setting point).
my Answer
- Please, let us pay attention to this Verse, first of all
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40- So I do swear by the LORD of
the rising-points (of the Sun) (=mashaariq) and the setting-points (of the Sun) (=maghaarib) ......QURAN TESTAMENT 70/40
Thereby, it is perfectly Clear to me that we should understand these Verses
in exact same and parallel manner again, here thus===================
86- Until he reached the setting-point of the Sun (maghriba alShams);
he found it setting into a sea (=fiy aynin), ...............
90- So when he reached the rising-point of the Sun (matlia alShams)
he found it rising unto a people (=ala qawmin), .......QURAN TESTAMENT 18/85-86, 89-90
and also again please, absolutely note that
setting into a sea (=fiy aynin), ......
and then
rising unto a people (=ala qawmin), .......
in those above Verses, clearly and unmistakably refer to Human (Zul Qarnain) perception therein,
in such a perfectly parallel manner above, (as clearly presented in the previous post).your Question
2. it's not sea, it's spring.my Answer
2. In QURAN TESTAMENT, for example this specific word "bahr"can clearly refer
to a fresh water "lake", (e.g. here =35/12)
or to a salty water "sea" (e.g. here =10/22)
or to a long narrow "sea" (e.g. here =10/90)
or to a wide open "ocean" (e.g. here =18/109)so, in the same manner, this specific word "ayn"
can clearly refer
to a gushing forth "spring" (e.g. here =55/66)
or to a free flowing "river" (e.g. here =88/12)or to a murky colored "sea" (e.g. here =18/86)
we can thus unmistakably understand each of them in their perfectly clear Context therein,
respectively above, in QURAN TESTAMENT.So, after clearly replying to your Questions above, my dear Fellow/Friend,
now I want you to absolutely see these AWESOME MIRACLES of/in QURAN TESTAMENT, first of all,The Most Essential 5 MIRACLES
with regard to the Textual Design of QURAN TESTAMENT here1 Perfectly "114" Chapters & "6346" Verses in total in QURAN TESTAMENT =78/29 (1)
http//www.19covenant19.com/mucize_detay_idf042.html2 Perfectly "114" Chapters & "6346" Verses in total in QURAN TESTAMENT =78/29 (2)
http//www.19covenant19.com/mucize_detay_idf043.html3 Fundamental Miracle of "ODD" & "EVEN" in QURAN TESTAMENT right here now =89/3-5
http//www.19covenant19.com/mucize_detay_idf040.html4 Superbly "114" Chapters & "6234" Verses in total in QURAN TESTAMENT =78/29 (1)
http//www.19covenant19.com/mucize_detay_idf047.html5 Superbly "114" Chapters & "6234" Verses in total in QURAN TESTAMENT =78/29 (2)
http//www.19covenant19.com/mucize_detay_idf048.htmlbecause you already said to me that you are a sincere Person who truly learned "real Math and Science,"
thereby, I wholeheartedly recommend to you, my dear Fellow/Friend,
that you should absolutely see each and every of these AWESOME MIRACLES above,
which clearly and unmistakably proves the HEAVENLY ORIGIN of QURAN TESTAMENT, in its Entirety,
for all Humanity, in this Final Age now, first of all,take your time, my dear Fellow/Friend, do not be in haste,
please, see each and every of them thoroughly and carefully,
and then let me know if you have any question or objection therein, first of all.Then, we shall together straightforwardly proceed, step by step, to fully attain to The Truth together,
to be blessed Immensely, forever, inshaAL-LAH.Remain in peace/salaam.
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Salaam/Peace to All,
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86- Until he reached the setting-point of the Sun (maghriba alShams);
he found it setting into a sea (=fiy aynin), ...............
90- So when he reached the rising-point of the Sun (matlia alShams)
he found it rising unto a people (=ala qawmin), .......QURAN TESTAMENT 18/85-86, 89-90
it is thus clearly and unmistakably referred to Human (Zul Qarnain) perception therein,
in those two Events above,
in such a perfectly parallel manner above --(as clearly presented in the previous post).So now, we can clearly witness it here
Sun setting into a sea/lake/river
http//hotshotstockimages.com/Sunset-Sunrise.htmSun rising unto a people
https//pixabay.com/en/sunrise-jung-dong-jin-sea-man-814402/
https//pixabay.com/en/sunrise-sun-grab-the-sun-432349/to get a basic idea about the Human (Zul Qarnain's) perception in these two Events above.
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40- So I do swear by the LORD of
the rising-points (of the Sun) (=mashaariq) and the setting-points (of the Sun) (=maghaarib) ......QURAN TESTAMENT 70/40
This Verse above is also clearly and unmistakably indicating to us the "rotational movement" of our planet Earth,
because essentially due to this "rotational movement"many rising-points (of the Sun) (=mashaariq) & many setting-points (of the Sun) (=maghaarib)
emphasized in the above Verse, are thus perfectly witnessed by us now on our planet Earth.
So in this respect, we should also absolutely see here
"Rotational Speed of the EARTH" foretold in QURAN TESTAMENT =27/88
http//www.19covenant19.com/mucize_detay_idf067.htmlRemain in peace/salaam.