What is your "IDEAL" afterlife would be like ?

Man_of_Faith

So according to and so according to... according to the sectarian interpretation fabrication of medieval times it says a lot of things which are against logic and just imagined. I would urge people to reflect on what it is they believe instead and how it holds together logically. What is "God" and is "God" a primitive beast? How come I am less emotional than "God", is it because "God" is weak or because that "God's" portrayal is weak. Why is that "God" seeking domination, which is an instinct? You see people just treat "God" as a worldly king, in a hierarchical alignment?

Beyond that it is pointless to proceed since I said what there is to say and it is not like you would care for me to elaborate. The scenario of why we are here in this world is so plain simple and it is a test on a massive scale. The world is put as the challenge and we ought to choose between two sides, the spiritual and the bodily, so it is quite straightforward. The corrupted ones are feeling and the spiritual ones are witted and sharp. Those who surrender to the bodily are going to be the sorry ones.

The OP asked what our ideal afterlife would be and I responded sincerely. That you wish to be slaves in a worldly "paradise" is not my problem and I am not forcing you anywhere else either.

Be well
Amenuel

LastDay3

So according to and so according to... according to the sectarian interpretation fabrication of medieval times
it says a lot of things which are against "logic" and just "imagined."
I would urge people to reflect on what it is they believe instead and how it holds together "logically."
What is "God" and is "God" a primitive beast?

Salaam/Peace MoF,

it is not according to this or that, but we should be thinking here always and absolutely according to
the most clear and straightforward and easy to understand and perfect (=15/1 & 39/28 & 18/1-2 & 54/17)
crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT,
in which there is no flaw/ambiguity, and no discrepancy/crookedness, at all (=18/1-2 & 4/82),

but because this TRUTH which has thus clearly and perfectly been taught by our Lord AL-LAH
in all of these crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT above
are absolutely against your "logic" and "imagination"

(=because the "logic" of such a megalomaniac, with a deeply sick mind
who always "imagine" himself to be a "partner" of God and then eventually thus "himself" to be God
in order to dominate all the gullible and the naive with his self-proclaimed "wisdom" and "insightfulness" here

can Never (even want to) see and can Never (even want to) hear The TRUTH (=18/101)
--unless he first truly diagnoses and then truly decides to get rid of his horrendous disease of/in his mind here, first of all 25/43 = 4/17-18)--
which has thus clearly and perfectly been taught by our Lord AL-LAH above.

For this reason, our Lord AL-LAH has clearly and unmistakably exposed all of your horrendous fabricating attempts based on
your weird lexicons above, again and again,

(*please, absolutely see all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT in this regard,
in each of my previous posts above.)

that eventually, you have gone astray so far and directly exposed your horrendously sick and deluded state of mind
by claiming that the most Essential and important Word "AL-LAH" does not refer to "GOD" in Quran --(according to your claim),
but it refers to "Someone" who is insightful (=i.e. you yourself MoF) ?!?

And our Lord AL-LAH has again clearly and unmistakably exposed your horrendous fabricating attempt also therein,
first of all, thus

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3- ...... Thus, AL-LAH is your LORD (=RABBUKUM).
You shall serve HIM (=abudooHU) --not anyone else =12/40!
Will you still not take heed?

*but this awfully deluded and horrifically intoxicated fellow/friend (=Man of Faith) under the influence of Iblees/Satan above
does still mistakenly/wrongfully claim that

"AL-LAH" is not our LORD (=RABB) --(according to him)-- but instead "AL-LAH" could be him!!! (*see it again with your own eyes
in his clear statement in that quote, at the very beginning above.)

32- ...... Thus, AL-LAH is your True LORD (=RABBUKUM) --not anyone else =6/164!
So what is after The TRUTH except straying?

So, will you still be deceived and turned away --(by Iblees/Satan like this
awfully deluded fellow/friend (Man of Faith) above 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113)?

164- Say Shall I seek anyone other than AL-LAH as a LORD (=RABBAN) when HE is the LORD (=RABBU) of all things?

QURAN TESTAMENT 10/3, 32 & 6/164

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43- Have you seen the One who has taken his ego (=in Arabic hawahu) as his GOD (by claiming that
he "himself" is AL-LAH, or a "partner" of AL-LAH, or a "portion/share/piece/part" of AL-LAH,

as this awfully deluded and horrifically intoxicated fellow/friend (Man of Faith) still indicates it for himself above, again and again.

Can you ever be an advocate over him (to guide or save him)?
(*especially, when/if he decides to be resolute not to resist the Satanic urge upon him and continue to trust "his being" (=i.e. "ego")
as he clearly confesses it in that quote, at the very beginning of that previous post above.)

QURAN TESTAMENT 25/43

So therefore, we shall never believe and never serve, MoF, your primitive beast (=i.e. your false and imaginary god
you have thus concocted in your megalomaniac, deeply sick mind under the influence of Iblees/Satan above 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113),

--(these kind of false and imaginary gods are called jibt and taghoot and they are thus utterly refuted and rejected
in QURAN TESTAMENT here 4/51, 60)--

you may believe and serve your primitive beast (=false and imaginary god), as long as you wish,
in whatever "symbiotic" relationship/partnership you may want between you therein,
and you may thus also taste the fecal and urinary excrement of your primitive beast --(because according to Iblees/Satan,
all fecal and urinary excrement of all beasts on earth are also a natural and intrinsic portion/share/piece/part of this false and imaginary god
he concocted, in perfect "unity" therein! (*please, clearly see it in detail again in previous posts above.)

and thereby, you may thus also let your naive and gullible flock of followers when/if you have any such (=25/43-44)
let them taste your own fecal and urinary excrement therein, because you still indicate that you are thus one of the highest-ranking "insightful" man
in that "hierarchy" established by Iblees/Satan therein,
so the taste of your fecal and urinary excrement should be the most "desirable" to such naive and gullible who would ever follow you therein (=25/43-44),

and you may thus all together continue to enjoy the "sewage" of each other in perfect "unity!" under that false and imaginary god,
as Iblees/Satan thus promises to his enthusiastic followers under such an "insightful" man here (17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 59/16-17).

But all truthful (Human, Jinn, and Angel) Servants of AL-LAH who are truly and wholeheartedly devoted to HIM Alone
will be in Paradise --(which encompasses the whole Universes =3/133 *please, absolutely see those crystal clear Verses in this respect
in my previous post above)-- as Honorable "Participants" (=i.e. as HIS truthful "Servants" therein =6/163 never as "partners" therein =17/111)
in HIS Most Equitable & Fair & Just & Peaceful "Eternal Sovereignty/Kingdom," forever. (=21/19-20, 26-29).

And they will always be Thankful to AL-LAH for all of HIS countless Blessings unto them (=16/18),
and also and especially, for saving them from that megalomaniac Iblees/Satan and his human and jinn cronies
who wrongfully claim themselves to be "partners" of God and then eventually "themselves" God
in order to exploit all the naive and the gullible in those despicable ways we have seen above (17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 4/117-121).
(*the hierarchy of/in that Catholic Church and consequent Crusades in the dark ages, and all of those false Messiahs (Jim Jones, David Koresh, etc.)
in this Age are among the clear examples of such Exploitation of that megalomaniac Iblees/Satan and his human and jinn cronies therein,
in this World 5/17-18 = 5/72-74 = ......)

So therefore, only those who truly repent and wholeheartedly return to "AL-LAH"

as our One and Only "LORD" (="RABB") here (=6/164)

Whose Individual/Personal BEING is absolutely Different/Separate/Distinct above and beyond all Universe/s, all Things we can
ever imagine above us,

QURAN TESTAMENT 70/4 = 42/11 = 112/1-4

and so HE has never appointed no "Partners" to HIMSELF from any of HIS Servants (=i.e. Humans, Angels, Jinns, etc.),
in no way, at all,

QURAN TESTAMENT 6/163 = 17/111

and HE has never ascribed no "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" to HIMSELF from any of HIS Servants (=i.e. Humans, Angels, Jinns, etc.),
in no way, at all,

QURAN TESTAMENT 43/15 = 5/17-18 = 5/72-74 = 43/19-20

shall be forgiven and saved by AL-LAH in this Most Generous & Most Benevolent Manner here,
and they shall always be truthful Human Servants of AL-LAH, in Eternal Serenity & Peace & Victory, forever.

=QURAN TESTAMENT 25/68-69-70-71, 72-73-74-75-76

Remain in peace/salaam.

Man_of_Faith

LastDay3,

Yes, but how are you so sure that the way you read words is how "God" compiled it to be read?

If you studied more than what meets the eye you would see the definitions chosen in the common interpretation is not so obvious.

Be well
Amenuel

LastDay3

LastDay3,

Yes, but how are you so sure that the way you read words is how God compiled it to be read?

If you studied more than what meets the eye you would see the definitions chosen in the common interpretation is not so obvious.

Salaam/Peace MoF,

all the Words of/in QURAN TESTAMENT that are thus specifically chosen by our Lord AL-LAH therein
which --in their essential meaning & in their essential structure-- can never be changed (=la mubaddila lehu) (=6/114-115)

are thus the most clear (=mubeen 15/1), straightforward (=qayyiman 39/2, easy to understand (=yassarna 54/17),
perfectly Chosen Words by our Lord AL-LAH therein,
which are also mentioned --not once but vast majority of them many times --as/in same root Words-- throughout the
whole QURAN TESTAMENT,

that their essential meaning can thus also perfectly be checked and confirmed, again and again, throughout the QURAN TESTAMENT,
in such a perfectly clear and obvious and straightforward Manner, for all of HIS truthful Servants who wholeheartedly seek
the Perfect Guidance here (5/16 = 7/196),

that thus there can never be found any flaw/ambiguity (=la iwaja) in it, and there
can never be found any crookedness/discrepancy (=la ahktilaf) in it, at all (=18/1-2 & 4/82).

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(*And now --with regard to their essential meaning & with regard to their essential structure--
the Perfect Confirmation/Approval of each and every Word of QURAN TESTAMENT
by all of these Most Superb and Matchless MATHEMATIC/SCIENTIFIC MIRACLES of our Lord AL-LAH here,
in this Final Age, for all Humanity,
also and especially, now here, in the very first place

http//www.19covenant19.com/Forum.html

So when/if Iblees-Satan --(by manipulating his such human and jinn followers here 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113)-- thus attempt to distort
the crystal clear and perfect meaning of any Words of/in QURAN TESTAMENT

that as/if they might thus fit into his satanic agenda somehow therein (=16/98-99-100 = 17/64 = 2/78 = 3/7,

these kind of deliberate "distortion" attempts (which are almost always based on those weird lexicons outside of QURAN) are thus
easily, clearly and unmistakably exposed and utterly refuted by our Lord AL-LAH in QURAN TESTAMENT --(when/if it is carefully read and
clearly investigated in its whole Context therein, first of all 7/200-201 = 75/17-19

(*as we have clearly witnessed it in your such deliberate attempts of "distortion" under the influence of Iblees/Satan above,
and how they are easily, clearly and unmistakably exposed and utterly refuted therein,
when we carefully read and clearly investigate it in the whole Context of QURAN TESTAMENT, first of all,
in all of those previous posts above.)

So in this respect, let me say this to you, finally, here again

Therefore, I do not want to waste anymore time replying to your such satanic nonsense, dear fellow/friend (MoF),
because I believe I have already delivered to you (in each of my previous posts above)
all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
which unmistakably proves that you are --(knowingly or unknowingly)-- such an easily manipulated guy by Iblees/Satan,
as it is clearly described here

QURAN TESTAMENT 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113 = 16/98-99-100
(*please, absolutely see all of these Verses above, clearly and openly delivered in my previous posts.)

I have only very limited time every day to post here (one or two replies, at most),
so if you are a moral human-being with any decency and honesty in you,
you should wholeheartedly give ear to my sincere and truthful recommendation to you here,

and thus immediately repent and return to our One and Only Lord AL-LAH in this most beautiful and rightful manner
for your Eternal Salvation and Everlasting Happiness here (=25/68-71, 72-76),

because from now on, I want to deliver all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT
in which our Lord AL-LAH unmistakably teaches us the fundamental and perfect meaning of these most important Words
(="RABB", and "ILAH",
and thereafter "Abd", and then "Malak", and thereafter we will also clearly see that "iblees" and "satan" therein =18/50-51).

Because thus we will continue to rightfully learn from our Lord AL-LAH

in HIS perfectly clear (=mubeen) and straightforward (=qayyiman) and easy to understand (=yassarna) WORD (=QURAN TESTAMENT),

without any flaw/ambiguity in it (=la iwaja) therein, at all.

=QURAN TESTAMENT 15/1 = 39/28 = 54/17 = 18/1-2

Remain in peace/salaam.

LastDay3

Salaam/Peace to All,

so let us clearly see here this most essential and important Word "RABB" (="LORD") in the QURAN TESTAMENT,
and its meaning

---One and Only "AUTHORITY" Who can Establish All "Judgments" (="Hukm") as/in RELIGION---

is thus unmistakably and perfectly taught to us by our Lord AL-LAH therein,
now here thus

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10- And any matter/issue you dispute in (here),
its "Judgment" (="Hukm&quot is with AL-LAH. Thus, AL-LAH is my "LORD" (=RABB)! ......

26- ...... And HE (=AL-LAH) does Not make-Partner anyone in HIS "Judgment" (="Hukm&quot!

QURAN TESTAMENT 42/10 = 18/26

Therefore, only those who will obey the "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH

--(all "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH with regard to every matter-issue above
are thus totally written in QURAN TESTAMENT, thoroughly and clearly therein 6/114 = "4/65 = 105" = 24/51)--

and do never set up anyone else as a "Partner" to AL-LAH in HIS "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot
are thus truthful Believers who have taken AL-LAH

thus as their One and Only "LORD" (="RABB") above, in the very first place (42/10 = 18/26)!

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21- Or do they have "Partners" (="Shurakaa") who decree for them --("Judgments" = "Hukm&quot-- in Religion, though AL-LAH
has never permitted it! (*as we have clearly witnessed it in the above Verse, in the first place 18/26)

31- (And) they have taken their "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" to be "LORDS" (="ARBABAN&quot besides AL-LAH.
And (others also deified) the Messiah son of Mary.
Yet they were commanded to serve but One God. (Because) there is no God but HE.
So, Glorified is HE from all that they ascribe (to HIM) as "Partners" (="Shurakaa") --in HIS "Judgments,"

*as we clearly see it in the above Verse 42/21 = 18/26, in the first place.)

QURAN TESTAMENT 42/21 = 9/31

Therefore, those who would follow such "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" who decree extra "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot --outside of
the SCRIPTURE --(Which perfectly consists of all "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH,
thoroughly and clearly therein 6/114 = 4/105 & 5/44-45 & 5/46-47--

are thus untruthful believers who have taken those "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars"

thus as false "LORDS" (="ARBABAN&quot besides AL-LAH above (42/21 = 9/31)!

Because these "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" should have rightfully been (--not false "LORDS" = "RABB")--
but rightfully true "Servants of the LORD" (="Rabbani")

by judging among the people exclusively and only by the "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH therein

=QURAN TESTAMENT 3/79 = 5/44 & ....

** all "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH are thus perfectly written in the SCRIPTURE, thoroughly and clearly therein
5/44-45 = 5/46-47 = 5/48-49 = 6/114 = 4/105

but because that these kind of "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" above
have thus wrongfully claimed to be "Partners" (="Shurakaa&quot to AL-LAH in HIS "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot, first of all,

and thereby, they thus decreed extra "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot --outside of the SCRIPTURE sent down
by AL-LAH therein above 42/21 X 18/26 = 4/105 = 6/114--

and thereupon they thus also wrongfully claimed themselves to be
a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" of AL-LAH (=43/15) --(by claiming that they were HIS Own "Sons" = "Gods" therein! =5/18)--

they have thus disastrously claimed themselves to be false "LORDS" (="RABB") besides AL-LAH (42/21 = 9/31)

instead of rightfully being such true "Servants of the LORD" (="Rabbani") therein (3/79 = 5/44), in the first place.

Remain in peace/salaam.

imrankhawaja

actually MOF dnt beleive in quran what we have in our hand.. so giving any evidence from quran did not work for him,,

he is waiting for a prophethood , and scripture in which he will deliver a message to us a fresh and updated one...

lets see when he bring this news ...

or

another possibilites the arabic language which we know and everybody know from last many centuries , he disagree with the meanings of that arabic... according to the lexicon... so he is intepretting it another way... seems he traped in his own logic when applying it he find contradiction and contradiction again and again and again..

examples are haram... hahahaha i amazed how we fit that interpretation on other occassion of mother sisters thingie it bring totally different meanings hahahahahahahaha......

it was funny though...

but i m happy atleast he dare to take that challange atleast,, before him people like popular historian also tried it ,,

my history scholar once deleiver a lecture about a person who try to write an alternate of quran... its a true event

about the challange verses he decide to write a book alternate to quran...

he locked himself in the room.. and after a month somebody enter in his room .... what they see , papers and papers everywhere... hardly after writing a line he reject it by his own ,,

and the perosn he pay him visit ask him whats the matter with you , he replied from last one month i m trying to produce a chapter like this book quran and , everytime i wroote something i found it full of errors and contradiction what shoould i do...

and then suddenly he claim , this book is not a work off human , it must b from the lord of world.. so i better dnt waste my time ...

mr MOF i m amazed you told me once you are on a project of reinterpretating the work of quran... and i was shocked when you told me you already interprate a chapter, but what i feel from last one year you are unable to show me that work...

i think from two years you are correcting your work... and the mistakes like haram/bless thing is one of the example... isnnt it... so its mean i must have to forget that i will ever b able to see your projected work in this of my life...

Man_of_Faith

I am not waiting for a scripture that is already there. "Prophethood" is a quite elusive term. If you imply Nabi then I would argue I am one, but this is obviously for each person to see. Anyone could make themselves Nabi if they just deepened their spirituality and hence became more deeply insightful and present/aware.

Be well
Amenuel

Man_of_Faith

I have not said I am unable to show you the work, I am saying you seem not sharp enough to see that you can find the work easily if you take a look around, i.e. in my posts. Do you expect I should do everything for you? I am not exactly thinking I have to prove anything to anyone and "God's" lore is for the witted one.

Be well
Amenuel

LastDay3

I have not said I am unable to show you the work,
I am saying you seem not sharp enough to see that you can find the work easily
if you take a look around, i.e. in my posts.

.........

I am not exactly thinking I have to prove anything to anyone and "God's" lore is for the witted one.

Salaam/Peace,

you should not worry about it at all, dear fellow/friend MoF,
because all truthful Believers who read QURAN TESTAMENT wholeheartedly
with such a good heart & sound mind here (35/29 = 7/196 = 5/16)

have already clearly seen (the main idea and gist of) your work easily,
and already clearly and unmistakably understand here

from whom your work is (17/64 = 6/112-113)!

"Man of Faith" says If I become a "Maleika" then I will be "in Control", symbiotically.
When I become "Maleika" I will "control" the whole World.

"Man of Faith" says Quran does not use the word ALLAH to refer to GOD .......

ALLAH could be you or "Me", it refers to "SomeOne" 'Who Is'.

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43- Have you seen the One who has taken his ego (=in Arabic hawahu) as his GOD (by claiming that
he "himself" could be AL-LAH, or a "partner" of AL-LAH, or a "portion/share/piece/part" of AL-LAH, symbiotically (=43/15)

as this awfully deluded Guy (="Man of Faith&quot still indicates it for himself above!

Can you ever be an advocate over him (to guide or save him)?
(*especially, when/if he decides to be resolute not to resist the Satanic urge upon him and continue to trust "his being" (=i.e. "ego")
as he clearly confesses it in that quote, at the very beginning of that previous post above.)

QURAN TESTAMENT 25/43

As I said earlier, the fact that you are still replying here without any shame and without any remorse,
and without any apology (for such horrific nonsense you can still utter in your such quotes above)

and instead, with a straight face, you can even still continue to introduce them as "insightfullness" that could only be
understood and appreciated by "witted ones"!?!

is much beyond BEWILDERING, it is also absolutely such a TRAGIC situation here. (25/43 = 6/71)

So due to this Perfect Commandment of our Lord AL-LAH in this respect here (25/43 = 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113),
--(*please, absolutely see all of these Verses above, as each of them are clearly and openly delivered
in all previous posts above)--

I will totally disregard you, and continue here to clearly see The TRUTH in every Issue
in most straightforward, clear, and perfect Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT here (6/114 = 5/16 = 15/1 = 18/1-3).

You may still have time and opportunity in this Life to truly repent and wholeheartedly return to AL-LAH
in this most beautiful and rightful manner here (=25/68-69-70-71, 72-73-74-75-76),

but if you are not willing to do it
and still choose to never resist to your ego and all of those satanic instincts upon you above (17/64 = 6/71, 112-113)
ultimately, at the very end of your normal life-span here, you may thus regret it forever (=4/17-18).

(*And please, do not reply here to needlessly disrupt and distract me here, anymore, because
your line of thought is already clearly and unmistakably understood here, and you already said here all whatever you wanted to say.
You may freely continue to write whatever you want to write in all of those other threads here in this Forum.
Because I want to continue without any disruption or distraction here

--(after seeing those crystal clear Verses with regard to that most essential Word "RABB" in my previous post above,
now with regard to this most essential Word "ILAH" in my next post, inshaAL-LAH, and then continue here for a specific period of time,
day by day, with all other most essential Words thereafter.

Thank you very much for your understanding.)

Remain in peace/salaam.

Man_of_Faith

You would call Moses taken his ego as partner when "God" was with him during the Exodus. "God" was with Moses through his whole life. Do you say Jesus had taken his ego as partner when he said "I am in the abbu and the abbu is in me"?

Ego is when you are egotistical, but I am not egotistical. There is nothing wrong in having a strong person and mind.

The whole Islam sect doctrine is from yourselves and your friends the clergymen of medieval times who gave you the interpretation of Quran in which you believe and it does not help anyone to manage except to belittle themselves. "God" allowed you to have an individuality and you are yourself aware that you have a frame/window towards the world in your body and this is your identity. This identity is projected by "God" who runs everything and as you can see in your body you can do virtually anything in either direction, i.e. good or bad, which means you are in control of your actions. You are a separated "platform", separated consciously from the consciousness of "God" for testing, but this is your delusion and your origin is not separate.

There is nothing wrong in associating oneself with "God", absolutely nothing wrong at all and that is what "God" wishes as an outcome to this testing. Worship is among instincts and we know that the instincts must be shunned. Why do you worship in the first place? To thank for a world that would test your ability? The best way to thank someone for your existence is to be helpful in return and the way you are helpful in this is by developing your mind/person as intended. Flatter someone only works for a primitive humanly king and "God" will not be flattered.

Be well
Amenuel

Man_of_Faith

(*And please, do not reply here to needlessly disrupt and distract me here, anymore, because
your line of thought is already clearly and unmistakably understood here, and you already said here all whatever you wanted to say.
You may freely continue to write whatever you want to write in all of those other threads here in this Forum.

Fair enough. I did not ask nor address you but you decided yourself to write your messages in return to me. I had stopped replying to you after your instinctive emotional weak outburst from the Satan.

Because I want to continue without any disruption or distraction here

Was it not you who wrote about ego and me? Now that sounds incredibly egotistical. To this thread you are not the OP to and you are the one disrupting by your massive amounts of disinformation that I have barely been responding to but ignored.

--(after seeing those crystal clear Verses with regard to that most essential Word "RABB" in my previous post above,

Ra-Ba-Ba = to be a lord and master, collect, possess/owner, rule, increase, complete, bring up, preserve, chief, guardian, regulator, determiner, caretaker, provider, sustainer, perfecter, rewarder, creator, maintainer, reposer of properties, developer, former of rules and laws of the growth, foster a thing in such a manner as to make it attain one condition after another until it reaches its goal of completion, the bringing a thing to a state of completion by degrees, whoever possesses a thing is it's rabb.

Definitions made bold include what the word means linguistically. An Arabic word does only have one general meaning and cannot mean two opposite things or what deviates too much from each meaning.

Be well
Amenuel

LastDay3

Fair enough. I did not ask nor address you but you decided yourself to write your messages in return to me.
I had stopped replying to you after your instinctive "emotional weak outburst" from the Satan.

"Man of Faith" says Quran does not use the word ALLAH to refer to GOD .......

ALLAH could be you or "Me", it refers to "SomeOne" 'Who Is'.

Salaam/Peace MoF,

due to the Fact that in your false and imaginary Quran --(you concocted it under the influence of Iblees/Satan based on
those weird lexicons and your horrendous fabricating attempts therein)-- you think that thus ALLAH is "You"
(see it in the above quote) in your such false and imaginary Quran therein,

(*Because when Iblees/Satan distorts the clear and perfect Meaning of the Verses of QURAN,
it immediately turns into such a false and imaginary Quran therein, concocted under the influence of Iblees/Satan therein,
which should absolutely be avoided by all truthful Believers here

QURAN TESTAMENT 16/98-99-100 = 3/78 = 6/71, 112-113
*So please, absolutely see each of these Verses above, clearly and openly delivered in those previous posts above.)

so there is no surprise for me here --(with such a horrendously mistaken/wrongful assumption, due to your hugely inflated ego, and such
a deeply sick state of mind)--

(*you should not take this as a personal attack, MoF, because you are always my dear brother/friend as a Person,
and I will always truly love and care for you even till the end of this World as a Person,
but also I have to tell you the things as it is, as a best Brother/Friend to you here,
because unfortunately, this is the true diagnosis/description of your state of mind above, right now)

therefore, you still wrongfully/mistakenly consider everyone who delivers
the crystal clear Verses of True and Authentic QURAN TESTAMENT

sent down by our Lord AL-LAH for the Eternal Salvation of all of us here (7/196 = 5/16)

which clearly and unmistakably expose your horrendously mistaken/wrongful state of mind and your such
satanic nonsense above,

as instinctive "emotional weak outburst" from the Satan !!!

in your quote above.

(This is more than Funny again, this is TRAGIC.)

So I do not want to waste anymore time here by replying to your such satanic nonsense above based on
your weird lexicons and horrendously wrongful/mistaken misinterpretations therein,

because you have already clearly made all of these points in your posts above,
throughout this thread, again and again, and also in all over your posts throughout this Forum,

and I have already delivered all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT which
absolutely refute and totally reject all of your such horrendously wrongful/mistaken assumptions therein above.

So after reminding what I have sincerely and truthfully said to you in my previous post here,
I want to directly continue on my Way here

So due to this Perfect Commandment of our Lord AL-LAH in this respect here (25/43 = 17/64 = 6/71, 112-113),
--(*please, absolutely see all of these Verses above, as each of them are clearly and openly delivered
in all previous posts above)--

I will totally disregard you, dear fellow/friend MoF, and continue here to clearly see The TRUTH in every Issue
in all of those most straightforward, clear, and perfect Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT here (6/114 = 5/16 = 15/1 = 18/1-3).

You may still have time and opportunity in this Life to truly repent and wholeheartedly return to AL-LAH
in this most beautiful and rightful manner here (=25/68-69-70-71, 72-73-74-75-76),

but if you are not willing to do it
and still choose to never resist to your ego and all of those satanic instincts upon you above (17/64 = 6/71, 112-113)
ultimately, at the very end of your normal life-span here, you may thus regret it forever (=4/17-1.

So, after seeing those crystal clear Verses with regard to that most essential Word "RABB"
in my previous post above,

we shall see those crystal clear Verses now with regard to this most essential Word "ILAH"
in the next post, tomorrow, inshaAL-LAH,

and then also continue here for a specific period of time, day by day, with all other most essential Words thereafter.

Thank you very much for your understanding.

Remain in peace/salaam.

LastDay3

Salaam/Peace to All,

so let us clearly see here this most essential and important Word "ILAH" (="GOD") in the QURAN TESTAMENT,
and its meaning

---One and Only "AUTHORITY" to WHOM belong All-Praise (=Al-Hamd) and "All-Judgment" (="Al-Hukm")
in the Past and in the Future, from the Eternity to the Eternity, forever---

is thus unmistakably and perfectly taught to us by our Lord AL-LAH therein,
now here thus

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70- And HE is AL-LAH, there is no "ILAH" (="GOD") except HE. (Thereby), to HIM belongs All-Praise (=Al-Hamd)
in the Past and in the Future, and to HIM belongs "All-Judgment" (="Al-Hukm"); ........

26- ...... And HE (=AL-LAH) does not make-Partner (=la yushriku) anyone in HIS "Judgment" (="Al-Hukm")!

QURAN TESTAMENT 28/70 = 18/26

Therefore, those who will obey exclusively and only all "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH

--(all "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH
are thus perfectly written in QURAN TESTAMENT, thoroughly and clearly therein 6/114 = "4/65 = 105" = 24/51)--

and do never set up anyone else as a "Partner" to AL-LAH in HIS "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot
are thus truthful Believers who have taken AL-LAH

as their One and Only "GOD" (="ILAH") above, in the very first place (28/70 = 18/26)!

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21- Or do they have "Partners" (="Shurakaa") who decree for them --("Judgments" = "Hukm&quot-- in Religion, though AL-LAH
has never permitted it! (*as we have clearly witnessed it in the above Verse, in the first place 18/26)

31- (And) they have taken their "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" to be "LORDS" (="ARBABAN&quot besides AL-LAH.
And (others also deified) the Messiah son of Mary.
Yet they were commanded to serve but One "GOD" (="ILAH"). (Because) there is no "GOD" (="ILAH") but HE.

So, Glorified is HE from all that they ascribe (to HIM) as "Partners" (="Shurakaa") --in HIS "Judgments,"

*as we clearly see it in the above Verse 42/21 = 18/26 therein, in the first place.)

QURAN TESTAMENT 42/21 = 9/31

Therefore, those who would follow such "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" who decree extra "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot --outside of
the SCRIPTURE (Which perfectly consists of all "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH,
thoroughly and clearly therein 6/114 = 4/105 & 5/44-45 & 5/46-47)--

are thus untruthful believers who have taken those "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars"

as false "LORDS" (="ARBABAN&quot and false "GODS" (="ALIHATAN&quot besides AL-LAH above (42/21 = 9/31)!

Because these "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" should have rightfully been
--(not false "LORDS" = "RABB" and not false "GODS" = "ALIHATAN")--

but rightfully true "Servants of AL-LAH" (="Rabbani")

by judging among the people exclusively and only by the "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH herein

=QURAN TESTAMENT 3/79 = 5/44 & ....

** all "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot of AL-LAH are thus perfectly written in the SCRIPTURE, thoroughly and clearly therein
5/44-45 = 5/46-47 = 5/48-49, 68 = 6/114 = 4/105

but because that these kind of "Religious Leaders" and "Scholars" above
have thus wrongfully claimed to be "Partners" (="Shurakaa&quot to AL-LAH in HIS "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot, first of all,

and thereby, they thus decreed extra "Judgments" (="Hukm&quot --outside of the SCRIPTURE sent down
by AL-LAH therein above 42/21 X 18/26 = 4/105 = 6/114--

and thereupon they thus also wrongfully claimed themselves to be
a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" of AL-LAH (=43/15) --(by claiming that they were HIS Own "Children" therein! =5/18)--

they have thus blasphemously claimed themselves to be false "LORDS" (="RABB") and false "GODS" (="ILAH")

besides AL-LAH above (42/21 = 9/31),

instead of rightfully being such true "Servants of AL-LAH" (="Rabbani") therein (3/79 = 5/44), in the first place.

So finally, let us also clearly see again this most essential and important Verse, in this respect above,
here again thus

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43- Have you seen the One who has taken his ego (=in Arabic hawahu) as his "GOD" (="ILAH&quot (by claiming that
he "himself" could be AL-LAH, or a "partner" of AL-LAH, or a "portion/share/piece/part" of AL-LAH (=43/15).

Can you ever be an advocate over him (to guide or save him)?
(*especially, when/if he willfully chooses to obey that Satanic urge upon him and continue to rely on "his ego" above.)

44- Or do you think that most of them ---(who would blindly follow such egotistic Persons,
as there were and still are (and probably will always be) many such egotistic Persons, even till the end of this World here, who wrongfully claim
"themselves" to be AL-LAH, or a "partner" of AL-LAH, or a "portion/share/piece/part" of AL-LAH (=43/15)---
hear or comprehend?

They are just like livestock (=i.e. they would act in "herd mentality" under the "spiritual Leadership" of such egotistic Persons above).
Indeed, they are (thus) farthest astray --(when/if they willfully choose to obey this satanic urge upon them (17/64 = 6/71, 112-113)
till the very end of their normal life-span here 4/17-18).

QURAN TESTAMENT 25/43

Remain in peace/salaam.

LastDay3

Salaam/Peace to All,

so now let us clearly see those two groups (i.e. "Ins" = "Humans" & "Jinn" = "Invisible-Ones&quot in QURAN TESTAMENT,

=who are they,
=when and why were they created,
=where will they go after this worldly Life here?

First of all, we can clearly see that "Jinn" (="Invisible-Ones&quot were created by our Lord AL-LAH
even before (=qablu) HIS creation of "Ins" (="Humans&quot, in the beginning.

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26- And We have created the "Human" (="Insan&quot from earth-mud (=i.e. from all of those "essential elements" present in earth crust
therein), from aged sediments (therein).

27- And the "Invisible-One" (="Jann" = Ancestor of all "Jinns&quot We created him before that (=min qablu) from an infusing "fire"
(=i.e. a totally invisible form of infusing "light-energy&quot.

*so due to the fact that these "Jinns" can never be seen by Human eye here (=7/27)
hence they are called "Jinns" (=Invisible-Ones);
for example, the same root verb (="janna&quot is used to refer to "covering of the night" which instantly make
all things around "invisible" therein 6/76)

QURAN TESTAMENT 15/26-27

*In this respect, we should also certainly know that it is now also Scientifically perfectly plausible
that in a World (of more dimensions than those three we can perceive here right now)
such invisible creatures can be around us, all the time, without our perceiving them.
As also we never perceive that "dark energy" for example, which makes up at least "seventy percent" of our Universe.

And then we can clearly see that those "Jinns" (=Invisible-Ones) above are direct descendants of Iblees/Satan,
as all "Ins" (="Humans&quot are direct descendants of Adam, here thus

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50- And We said to the Angels "Yield to Adam." So they all yielded except for Iblees/Satan, (consequently) he became of the "Jinn"
(=i.e. Ancestor of all "Jinns" therein), because he (thus) disobeyed the Order of his LORD.

So will you still take him and his "descendants" (="dhurriyyatahu"

= all "Jinns" (=Invisible-Ones) that are thus clearly described as "descendants" of that Ancestor "Jinn" = Iblees/Satan above

as allies besides ME, while they are your enemy? Miserable for the transgressors is the substitute!

62- Iblees/Satan said (to AL-LAH) therein
Shall I show YOU this one (=Adam) whom YOU have honored over me, that if YOU respite me until the Day of Resurrection,
I will seize his "descendants" (="dhurriyyatahu"

= all "Ins" (=Humans) that are thus clearly described as "descendants" of that Ancestor "Human" = Adam above

except for a few.

QURAN TESTAMENT 18/50 & 17/62

We will continue tomorrow, when/if we have got enough time, inshaAL-LAH.
So all dear Members (Brothers & Sisters) of this Forum, please, do not reply here,
because after we have perfectly seen all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT,
in this regard above,
you can always come back and reply here as much as you want, if you have any comments, questions, or objections therein.
Thank you very much for your understanding.

Remain in peace/salaam.

LastDay3

==========
56- AL-LAH said And I have not created the "Jinns" (=i.e. "Invisible-Ones" all descendants of Iblees/Satan
as we have clearly seen it in this Verse above 18/50)

and the "Ins" (=i.e. "Humans" all descendants of Adam
as we have clearly seen it in this Verse above 17/62)

but that they serve ME Alone --(=i.e. serving AL-LAH by never setting up any "Partners" to HIM therein =13/36)!

(i.e. never claiming that Jesus or any other "Human" or "Jinn" was a "Partner" of AL-LAH,
or a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" of AL-LAH therein, never, at all 43/15 = 5/17-1

57- (For) I never require of them any Provision, and I never require (of them) that they feed ME.
(*Because our Lord AL-LAH feeds everyone but HE Himself never needs any food whatsoever at all =6/14)

58- (For), verily, AL-LAH Himself is The Provider, The Possessor of The Supreme Power!

QURAN TESTAMENT 51/56-58

In this regard, now we can clearly see that

some of the "Jinns" and the "Humans" still reject to serve AL-LAH Alone above (=51/56)
and instead they set up "Partners" to AL-LAH,

and some of the "Jinns" and the "Humans" truly accept to serve AL-LAH Alone above (=51/56)
and they never set up "Partners" to AL-LAH,

here thus

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1- Say It has been pointed out to me that a group of "Jinns" (=i.e. those Invisible-Ones" above)
(came near to me) listening. And they said "We have listened a magnificent QURAN!"

2- It guides to what is Correct, so we have believed in it;
so henceforth, we will never set up anyone as a "Partner" to our LORD!

3- Because Exalted is the Majesty of our LORD, HE has never taken a "Spouse" and never a "Son"
--(to be a "Partner" to HIM, or a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" to HIM, never, at all 43/15 = 5/17-1!

4- But the foolish among us uttered such nonsense about AL-LAH --(by wrongfully claiming that
Jesus and all other "Humans" and "Jinns" were a "Partner" of AL-LAH,
or/and a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" of AL-LAH, individually and also all together, therein 43/15 = 5/17-1!

5- And we had thought that the "Humans" and the "Jinns" could/would never utter such gross lies about AL-LAH.

11- And a group of "Jinns" (=i.e. those "Invisible-Ones" above again) said
And among us are those who are Good Doers, and some of us are below/other than that (=i.e. Evil Doers);
we are in many paths.

(Thus, although all of these "Jinns" (=i.e. "Invisible-Ones&quot are thus direct descendants of Iblees/Satan above,
as we have clearly seen it in this Verse above 18/50)-- some or many of them can still repent and return to AL-LAH
to be such Good Doers here (=72/13-14);

but likewise, although all of these "Ins" (=i.e. "Humans&quot are thus direct descendants of Adam above,
as we have clearly seen it in this Verse above 17/62)-- some or many of them can still go astray and turn away from AL-LAH
to be such Evil Doers here (=19/58-59);

12- Those "Jinns" (=i.e. those "Invisible-Ones" above again) said
And we have fully understood that we can never defy AL-LAH on the Earth, and we can never defy HIM in nowhere/no way at all.

13- So, when we heard the "Guidance" (="Huda" "19" coded,
most Superb and matchless "SYMMETRICAL MIRACLES" which is thus specifically called "Guidance" (="Huda&quot
here, in the first place 39/23 = 74/26-30, 31)--- we have believed in it.

So (in this Final Age now) whoever believes in his/her LORD, then he/she will never fear
--due to his/her strong belief and Good Deeds on the left side of those "19" coded Tables here now-- any "injustice,"
and --due to his/her strong belief and Good Deeds on the right side of those "19" coded Tables here now-- any "affliction!"

QURAN TESTAMENT 72/1-5, 11-13

We will continue tomorrow, when/if we have got the chance, inshaAL-LAH.
So all dear Members (Brothers & Sisters) of this Forum, please, do not reply here,
because after we have perfectly seen all of those crystal clear Verses of QURAN TESTAMENT,
in this regard (=i.e. "Humans" & "Jinns&quot above,
you can always come back and reply here as much as you want, if you have any comments,
questions, or objections therein.
Thank you very much for your understanding.

Remain in peace/salaam.

Man_of_Faith

LastDay3,

Have you paid attention to that the thread is about how your ideal afterlife would be like?

LastDay3

LastDay3,

Have you paid attention to that the thread is about how your ideal afterlife would be like?

Salaam-Peace to All, and MoF,

Sorry, I couldn't come back for a few days,

yes, I still wholeheartedly pay attention to that and think/hope that I'm still (directly / indirectly) right on Topic here,
and if I get the chance will continue in this Way, inshaAL-LAH, for some time.
But anyway, thank you very much, dear fellow/friend MoF, for your reminder.

So let's continue on our Way and see these most essential and important Verses, in this respect,
now here thus

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118- Had your LORD so willed, HE could have made all humankind (forcefully) one single community (of believers here 10/99),

--(but HE never willed to use force on them but instead HE has granted them free will)--

(but, alas), they do not cease to dispute/oppose/fight (=mukhtalifeen) --(against HIS Scripture here 2/176).

119- Except whom your LORD has Mercy upon --(because of their true and strong belief in HIS Scripture here 29/47-49)--
and for this (Test) HE has created them.

And (thus) the Word of your LORD has (already) been perfectly-issued

I will fill Hell with the "Jinns" (=i.e. those direct descendants of Iblees/Satan above 18/50)
and the "People" (=i.e. those direct descendants of Adam above 17/62), all together!

--(especially, when/if they continue to wrongfully/blasphemously claim that
Jesus or Ezra and all "Humans" and "Jinns" were a "Partner" or a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" of AL-LAH
therein, according to their such wrongful/blasphemous claim (43/15 = 5/17-18 = 9/30),

as we have clearly seen it in these Verses =72/1-6 in that previous post above.)

(*Thus only such wrongful and wicked "Jinns" and "Humans" above will be the dwellers of Hell,
because of their such wrongful/blasphemous claim above and the consequent tyranny and evil they have done in the past
(for example the ferocious atrocities and torture inflicted upon millions of innocent people by Catholic Church and
their Crusades in the previous Centuries),
and in the present (for example also many such "false Messiahs" like Jim Jones and David Koresh etc. and the tyranny and evil they have
inflicted upon their gullible followers, all because of their own megalomaniac, deeply sick minds by claiming "themselves" to be
a "Partner" or a "Portion/Share/Piece/Part" of AL-LAH
therein again (43/15 = 5/17-18 = 9/30)---

when/if they never repent and return to AL-LAH in this rightful manner here 25/68-71 & 5/72-74
till the very end of their normal life-span here 4/17-18

So therefore, we can also lawfully infer that all other "creatures" and "animals" may thus be the dwellers of Paradise,
together with all of those truthful and intelligent and humble and peaceful "Jinns" and "Humans" here (=72/1-5, 13-14),
in the Hereafter, by the Immense Grace and Compassion of AL-LAH unto all of them therein 6/38 & 55/37-60).

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37- (At the time of the Hour here 54/1-3 = 21/1-2) when the Sky is torn, and becomes rose/red like paint.

38- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

39- On that Day, no "Human" or "Jinn" will be asked of his/her faults.

40- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

41- (Because) the guilty will be recognized by their features (=40/19 & 47/30 & ...), and they will be taken
by the forelocks and the feet.

42- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

43- This is Hell that the guilty used to deny --(the existence of it, or the necessity of it, or the inevitability of it, etc.).

44- They will have to move between it (=Hell) and between a suffocating Humidity/Inferno
(=due to their such ferocious atrocities and such bombing and burning they constantly inflicted upon
innocent here, (=40/17, 40)
and when/if they never repented thereafter 85/4-10).

45- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

46- And for the one who revere the Majesty of his/her LORD, there will be Two Gardens.

47- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

48- Full of provisions.

49- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

50- In them are two Springs, flowing.

51- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

52- In them will be of every Fruit, in pairs --(some of which may look and taste essentially similar/same, in some aspects,
as we have been granted it, already in this World here 2/25)

53- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

54- While reclining upon high-furnishings lined with wonderful-satin, the fruits of the Two Gardens are within reach.

55- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

56- In them are those (attendants) who restrain (their) gaze (from all others, to give all of their attention and care
for each of those --male or female-- dwellers of Paradise therein), no human and no jinn never communicated with them (=those
attendants) before.

57- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

58- They look like (as pure/magnificent/clean as) gems and coral.

59- So which of the Favors of your LORD can you two (="Humans" and "Jinns&quot deny?

60- Because the Reward for (such) Most Beautiful Deeds (=Ihsan / Muhsin here 39/33-35) will absolutely be
(such) Most Beautiful Reward (=Ihsan / Hasunat there 25/75-76)!

QURAN TESTAMENT 55/37-60

Remain in peace/salaam.

Jafar

For some it is something like this

https//www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Nahed-Hattar-cartoon74.jpg

Note The author of the above cartoon was murdered last month..

https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahed_Hattar

Man_of_Faith

Tsk. Murdered because he draws an accurate picture of how it will be as according to Islam quite literally in the sectarian interpretation of Quran.

imrankhawaja

28 And from the people are those who say "We believe in God and in the Last Day," but they are not believers.
29 They seek to deceive God and those who acknowledge, but they only deceive themselves without noticing.
210 In their hearts is a disease, so God increases their disease, and they will have a painful retribution for what they have denied.
211 And when they are told, "Do not spread corruption on earth," they answer, "We are but improving things!"
212 No, they are the evildoers, but they do not perceive.
213 And if they are told "Believe, as the people have believed," they say "Shall we believe like the foolish have believed?" No, they are the foolish but they do not know.

defination of hypocrate kaffir... according to quran... kaffir usually show his colors by his actions...

apart from this,, a wise person respect every religion , even if they claim monkey can b god... still a beleiver respect his feelings...

i condemn what happen to that person.. but he was just playing with fire when he already know there are people who are emotional , so he just invite his own death by painting all this...

opposite side of coin his family members were wishing alas he never made this so he would be alive today...

now instead of getting lesson from this incident people like MOF just showing their true nature by critising Quran again and again without any proof...

i think last day was right he is deluded in his ego so much and shamelessly blame/critise quran without any proof... in every thread...

although i exposed him plantey of times...
but here is another appraoch again,,, if he find the portrait got any relevance with teaching of quran i would be happy atleast he is bringing proof inside his discussion...

i decided not to talk with him... two days ago, but its really difficult sometimes to ignore some people who continously utter nonsense about quran without any proof...