My native language is not Arabic.When Ipray should I recite the Quran in Arabic?
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God know each and every language...
God know what is inside your heart ...
God know your feelings are real or fake...
so the things in which you have a connection with God did not need any other thing.. God is enough,, he listen to every caller when they call...
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What do you think?
What feels better to you?
You I was brought up to read The Surahs in arabic during the Salat. However I never knew what was I saying. I think it is hard for me to be unbiased because a big part of my life I spent doing and believing in certain things.
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You I was brought up to read The Surahs in arabic during the Salat. However I never knew what was I saying. I think it is hard for me to be unbiased because a big part of my life I spent doing and believing in certain things.
If you don't know what you're saying, what's the point? Why pray at all? We should all strive for that connection with our Creator.
5 daily prayers is not in the Qur'an either, unless you're just trying to keep with tradition and feel like this will help you be more God-conscious.
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If you don't know what you're saying, what's the point? Why pray at all? We should all strive for that connection with our Creator.
5 daily prayers is not in the Qur'an either, unless you're just trying to keep with tradition and feel like this will help you be more God-conscious.
But isn't it's just a test to see who is humble enough to keep doing Gods Commandmands just because God asked so. Just like the Jews were tested by Gods Commandmands to see if their faith is strong enough to keep doing different things God wants them to do.
Just like God asks us to make Salat 5 times a day. Just to see if we will Obey his Commandmands or start to debate.
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Just like God asks us to make Salat 5 times a day. Just to see if we will Obey his Commandmands or start to debate.
God did not actually give any command of five times , the times of salat are morning and evening
the names of salat are fajar(morning) and isha(evening) the minimum requirement ... rest of it better study articles of salat..
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Peace Comrox.
When you say ,quote
5 daily prayers is not in the Qur'an either, unless you're just trying to keep with tradition and feel like this will help you be more God-conscious.
Do you mean according to your understanding?Because to my knowledge ,there are groups that follow Qoran but disagree with you.
Some believe there are none. Salat simply means communion/...etc.
Some believe there two daily prayers .
Some believe there are 3 daily prayers.
Some believe there are 5 daily prayers.
Some even use number proof to go with their belief of code 19,exampleThe units of daily Salat prayers consist of 2, 4, 4, 3, and 4 units, a total of 17 units. The number 24434 is a
multiple of 192 4 4 3 4 = 19 x 1286
The digits of 1286 add up to 17, the total number of units prayed each day (1+2+8+6 = 17).
Furthermore, the units of daily Salat prayers followed by the sequence number of the prayer is also a multiple of 19
2 1 4 2 4 3 3 4 4 5 = 19 x 112759655
One should double check according to 1736.
GOD bless you.
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Some believe there are 5 daily prayers.
Some even use number proof to go with their belief of code 19,exampleThe units of daily Salat prayers consist of 2, 4, 4, 3, and 4 units, a total of 17 units. The number 24434 is a
multiple of 192 4 4 3 4 = 19 x 1286
The digits of 1286 add up to 17, the total number of units prayed each day (1+2+8+6 = 17).
Furthermore, the units of daily Salat prayers followed by the sequence number of the prayer is also a multiple of 19
2 1 4 2 4 3 3 4 4 5 = 19 x 112759655
One should double check according to 1736.Peace -- OK let's check ask them i.e. "some" what is wrong with the rest of these?
23332 = 19 x 1228 13 2 1 3 2 3 3 3 4 2 5 = 19 x 112228075
13414 = 19 x 706 13 1 1 3 2 4 3 1 4 4 5 = 19 x 59601655
21641 = 19 x 1139 14 2 1 1 2 6 3 4 4 1 5 = 19 x 111191285
11723 = 19 x 617 14 1 1 1 2 7 3 2 4 3 5 = 19 x 58564865
33117 = 19 x 1743 15 3 1 3 2 1 3 1 4 7 5 = 19 x 164849025
82213 = 19 x 4327 16 8 1 2 2 2 3 1 4 3 5 = 19 x 427485865
41344 = 19 x 2176 16 4 1 1 2 3 3 4 4 4 5 = 19 x 216438655
31426 = 19 x 1654 16 3 1 1 2 4 3 2 4 6 5 = 19 x 163812235
26125 = 19 x 1375 16 2 1 6 2 1 3 2 4 5 5 = 19 x 113796445
34352 = 19 x 1808 17 3 1 4 2 3 3 5 4 2 5 = 19 x 165386075
24434 = 19 x 1286 17 2 1 4 2 4 3 3 4 4 5 = 19 x 112759655 <--- they like this one?
19133 = 19 x 1007 17 1 1 9 2 1 3 3 4 3 5 = 19 x 62743865
14516 = 19 x 764 17 1 1 4 2 5 3 1 4 6 5 = 19 x 60133235
63612 = 19 x 3348 18 6 1 3 2 6 3 1 4 2 5 = 19 x 322770075
58311 = 19 x 3069 18 5 1 8 2 3 3 1 4 1 5 = 19 x 272754285
51129 = 19 x 2691 18 5 1 1 2 1 3 2 4 9 5 = 19 x 269059605
32661 = 19 x 1719 18 3 1 2 2 6 3 6 4 1 5 = 19 x 164349285
22743 = 19 x 1197 18 2 1 2 2 7 3 4 4 3 5 = 19 x 111722865
17442 = 19 x 918 18 1 1 7 2 4 3 4 4 2 5 = 19 x 61707075
12825 = 19 x 675 18 1 1 2 2 8 3 2 4 5 5 = 19 x 59096445
61921 = 19 x 3259 19 6 1 1 2 9 3 2 4 1 5 = 19 x 321733285
34219 = 19 x 1801 19 3 1 4 2 2 3 1 4 9 5 = 19 x 165380605
15751 = 19 x 829 19 1 1 5 2 7 3 5 4 1 5 = 19 x 60670285
13186 = 19 x 694 19 1 1 3 2 1 3 8 4 6 5 = 19 x 59586235
83315 = 19 x 4385 20 8 1 3 2 3 3 1 4 5 5 = 19 x 428017445
62282 = 19 x 3278 20 6 1 2 2 2 3 8 4 2 5 = 19 x 322223075
52364 = 19 x 2756 20 5 1 2 2 3 3 6 4 4 5 = 19 x 269596655
37145 = 19 x 1955 20 3 1 7 2 1 3 4 4 5 5 = 19 x 166954445
81624 = 19 x 4296 21 8 1 1 2 6 3 2 4 4 5 = 19 x 426980655
45372 = 19 x 2388 21 4 1 5 2 3 3 7 4 2 5 = 19 x 218544075
35454 = 19 x 1866 21 3 1 5 2 4 3 5 4 4 5 = 19 x 165917655
74632 = 19 x 3928 22 7 1 4 2 6 3 3 4 2 5 = 19 x 375928075
69331 = 19 x 3649 22 6 1 9 2 3 3 3 4 1 5 = 19 x 325912285
43681 = 19 x 2299 22 4 1 3 2 6 3 8 4 1 5 = 19 x 217507285
33763 = 19 x 1777 22 3 1 3 2 7 3 6 4 3 5 = 19 x 164880865
28462 = 19 x 1498 22 2 1 8 2 4 3 6 4 2 5 = 19 x 114865075
18544 = 19 x 976 22 1 1 8 2 5 3 4 4 4 5 = 19 x 62238655
72941 = 19 x 3839 23 7 1 2 2 9 3 4 4 1 5 = 19 x 374891285
16853 = 19 x 887 23 1 1 6 2 8 3 5 4 3 5 = 19 x 61201865
56392 = 19 x 2968 25 5 1 6 2 3 3 9 4 2 5 = 19 x 271702075
75734 = 19 x 3986 26 7 1 5 2 7 3 3 4 4 5 = 19 x 376459655
37791 = 19 x 1989 27 3 1 7 2 7 3 9 4 1 5 = 19 x 16698628522116 = 19 x 1164 12 1 2 2 2 3 1 4 1 5 6 = 19 x 64332324
13433 = 19 x 707 14 1 1 2 3 3 4 4 3 5 3 = 19 x 59123387
23351 = 19 x 1229 14 1 2 2 3 3 3 4 5 5 1 = 19 x 64386029
11742 = 19 x 618 15 1 1 2 1 3 7 4 4 5 2 = 19 x 59019708
33136 = 19 x 1744 16 1 3 2 3 3 1 4 3 5 6 = 19 x 69648124
16226 = 19 x 854 17 1 1 2 6 3 2 4 2 5 6 = 19 x 59280224
26144 = 19 x 1376 17 1 2 2 6 3 1 4 4 5 4 = 19 x 64542866
31445 = 19 x 1655 17 1 3 2 1 3 4 4 4 5 5 = 19 x 69544445
41363 = 19 x 2177 17 1 4 2 1 3 3 4 6 5 3 = 19 x 74807087
72314 = 19 x 3806 17 1 7 2 2 3 3 4 1 5 4 = 19 x 90649166
82232 = 19 x 4328 17 1 8 2 2 3 2 4 3 5 2 = 19 x 95911808
14535 = 19 x 765 18 1 1 2 4 3 5 4 3 5 5 = 19 x 59176545
24453 = 19 x 1287 18 1 2 2 4 3 4 4 5 5 3 = 19 x 64439187
34371 = 19 x 1809 18 1 3 2 4 3 3 4 7 5 1 = 19 x 69701829
65322 = 19 x 3438 18 1 6 2 5 3 3 4 2 5 2 = 19 x 85543908
12844 = 19 x 676 19 1 1 2 2 3 8 4 4 5 4 = 19 x 59072866
17461 = 19 x 919 19 1 1 2 7 3 4 4 6 5 1 = 19 x 59333929
22762 = 19 x 1198 19 1 2 2 2 3 7 4 6 5 2 = 19 x 64335508
48412 = 19 x 2548 19 1 4 2 8 3 4 4 1 5 2 = 19 x 75176008
51148 = 19 x 2692 19 1 5 2 1 3 1 4 4 5 8 = 19 x 80069182
53713 = 19 x 2827 19 1 5 2 3 3 7 4 1 5 3 = 19 x 80177587
63631 = 19 x 3349 19 1 6 2 3 3 6 4 3 5 1 = 19 x 85440229
46721 = 19 x 2459 20 1 4 2 6 3 7 4 2 5 1 = 19 x 75072329
29811 = 19 x 1569 21 1 2 2 9 3 8 4 1 5 1 = 19 x 64704429
37164 = 19 x 1956 21 1 3 2 7 3 1 4 6 5 4 = 19 x 69858666
52383 = 19 x 2757 21 1 5 2 2 3 3 4 8 5 3 = 19 x 80122887
68115 = 19 x 3585 21 1 6 2 8 3 1 4 1 5 5 = 19 x 85700745
73416 = 19 x 3864 21 1 7 2 3 3 4 4 1 5 6 = 19 x 90702324
83334 = 19 x 4386 21 1 8 2 3 3 3 4 3 5 4 = 19 x 95964966
35473 = 19 x 1867 22 1 3 2 5 3 4 4 7 5 3 = 19 x 69754987
45391 = 19 x 2389 22 1 4 2 5 3 3 4 9 5 1 = 19 x 75017629
66424 = 19 x 3496 22 1 6 2 6 3 4 4 2 5 4 = 19 x 85597066
71725 = 19 x 3775 22 1 7 2 1 3 7 4 2 5 5 = 19 x 90598645
81643 = 19 x 4297 22 1 8 2 1 3 6 4 4 5 3 = 19 x 95861287
18563 = 19 x 977 23 1 1 2 8 3 5 4 6 5 3 = 19 x 59387087
28481 = 19 x 1499 23 1 2 2 8 3 4 4 8 5 1 = 19 x 64649729
33782 = 19 x 1778 23 1 3 2 3 3 7 4 8 5 2 = 19 x 69651308
54815 = 19 x 2885 23 1 5 2 4 3 8 4 1 5 5 = 19 x 80230745
74651 = 19 x 3929 23 1 7 2 4 3 6 4 5 5 1 = 19 x 90756029
16872 = 19 x 888 24 1 1 2 6 3 8 4 7 5 2 = 19 x 59283408
75753 = 19 x 3987 27 1 7 2 5 3 7 4 5 5 3 = 19 x 90809187Now, promise that you'll never to bring this up again without also posting above?
As to topic, mindless parroting without comprehension is like rantings of drunkards even worst since they have an excuse.
443 O you the ones believes ye of not thou approach ye of al-alata/the contact prayer and are you sukr/intoxicated until know ye of what thou saying ...
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If you don't know what you're saying, what's the point? Why pray at all?
Thus the God will be pleased? (And not angry)
Because we do the ritual and invocation in the exact manner as He told His worshiper to do?
The objective of why we're living in this world is so we can do the worshiping ritual to please Him. -
Thus the God will be pleased? (And not angry)
Because we do the ritual and invocation in the exact manner as He told His worshiper to do?
The objective of why we're living in this world is so we can do the worshiping ritual to please Him.Wait wait so now the prayer is a "ritual" ? I thought prayer the contact/contact-prayer we make with God is for our own good...it helps us rise above this world for a while and remember The Creator and speak to Him.
Recite what is inspired to you of the Book and hold the contact prayer, for the contact prayer prohibits immorality and vice; but certainly the remembrance of God is the greatest. God knows everything you do. 29-45
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Peace Noon.
You have got it wrong again, read my post again. I was not endorsing anything!!!!
So your quote
Now, promise that you'll never to bring this up again without also posting above?
Simply irrelevant for me
Did you only see numbers or did you read the rest of my post?I will summarise my post again for you here
I was saying there are different understanding of how many daily prayers Qoran instructs according to different groups. ( 0,2,3 and 5),then added some even have coded ones!!!!Brother, it is a pity you are using your talent in useless numerology.
For me I checked Qoran interlock and moved on to follow its message. That is the most important task for us.
GOD bless you.
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Peace
Im still not 100 sure what Salat is. By now im trying to pray the 5 dailily Salats. And during the Salat I recite the Surahs from the Quran.
Is it the right way? Should I recite something which I do not understand of ?
Peace
Life is too long to learn a single language
we spent about 15 years learning to complete our graduation then why cant we spend just six moths to learn a language in which the mighty ALLAH subahnavatal has communicated us
i presume ,you don't know Tamil .suppose you are forced to work in my place ,Tamilnadu .will you not learn Tamil .learn the language and enjoy the true bliss of praying .till then it is okay .but learn it .just one language for yourself .
Necessity is the mother of invention .
i want to make a note of my personal experience .my mother is now completely paralytic .she cannot walk,talk or even eat .but i presume her mind must be working .just imagine our self in that stage .if we have memorized the entire Quran .then we can revise it in our mind .
so my agenda of life is very simple ,
i want master one language and i want to memorize one book in my life -
Salam,
Some of God's attributes are; the Encompassing, Knower of the seen and the unseen, the Knowledgeable, Aware of all things, the Hearer etc etc.
Nothing is hidden from God, everything you say and do he hears and sees (He is the Hearer, the Seer).
You can pray in Arabic if you like, but it is important that you understand what you say. Many sectarians that don't understand Arabic but pray in Arabic don't understand what they are saying; and they do so because a spread lie that "one must pray in Arabic or God won't accept." rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
You get the point...Nothing is hidden from God. Pray in whatever language you like. I pray in English because I don't understand Arabic and there isn't any Quran in Swedish without sectarian influence, so English was the only available.
Salam
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one need to understand this thing... language barrier is just for human being he can fluent up max five languages...
but God is the creator of everything... he even knows what is going on in our thoughts...
a famous saying by the poet from east,
God did not require a verbal praise , even the one who is unable to speak (dumb/deaf) can pray/ask/worship God
but the purpose of contact prayer is to connect with God thinking and representing yourself that you are at advance level of submisson so as soon a mistake happen from you first thing people point out look at this a fake prayer... what he is doing, a hypocrate.. etc etc..
one need to understand a difference between muslim and momin for unnderstanding this... submittor vs beleiver
peace..
and yeh contact prayers although got some set of rules its better to follow them as per scripture... and one can also say/pray/contact/praise to God in its native language .. -
Wait wait so now the prayer is a "ritual" ?
For most, it is... which drive the need to do the rites 100% correct... language, mantra, dressing, movement, orientation, timing etc..
Life is too long to learn a single language
we spent about 15 years learning to complete our graduation then why cant we spend just six moths to learn a language in which the mighty ALLAH subahnavatal has communicated usTo be honest, as of now, Allah hasn't spoke to me in Arabic...
Many sectarians that don't understand Arabic but pray in Arabic don't understand what they are saying; and they do so because a spread lie that "one must pray in Arabic or God won't accept." rotfl rotfl rotfl rotfl
Exactly...
Even, Moses Jesus David Solomon. all of them pray to Allah in Arabic... look in the Quran as evidence..but God is the creator of everything... he even knows what is going on in our thoughts...
a famous saying by the poet from east,
God did not require a verbal praise , even the one who is unable to speak (dumb/deaf) can pray/ask/worship God
This is the best quote on praying according to me...
And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need even before you ask Him.
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On prayer, and places of prayer;
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you need no lip or tounge for praying, But rather do you need a wilent, wakeful heart, a Master-Wish, a Master-Thought, and above all, a Master-Will that neither doubts nor hesitates, For words are of no avail except the heart be present and awake in every syllable. And when the heart is present and awake, the tounge had better go to sleep, or hide behind sealed lips.
Nor have you any need of temples to pray in.
Whoever cannot find a temple in his heart, the same can never find his heart in any temple.
"- the book of Mirdad - M.N
pray with purity of heart, and of sincerity of action, let your whole life become your prayer, and every breath your connection to God.
Untill then, pray however you see fit, follow the quran to the best of your ability, in a language that you understand, and regardless of language, seek Gods understanding above all else, pray however you see fit, but if you only utter one word in prayer, let it be amen.
peace be with you
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i still wonder i always speak with God in my mother tounge(punjabi) , even the national tounge(urdu) and official tounge(english) are always stick with me from schools to exams and from office to home ,, but i always ask/speak with my God in punjabi and i feel easy while doing it..
interestingly when i was kid my elders dnt like that i talk with them in punjabi... and my teachers wanted everybody speak in english as much as they can... or if u cant speak in english then only language allowed in school was national langiage but if somebody speaks in punjabi the punisment announced... rotfl even it was a local language.. but even at that time i always ask things from God in punjabi... same is the situation with faith.. real faith is always inside you...
the system of God is very easy to understand but the system of man made religion is rather tough to follow,
