Does All Mighty All Powerful God need our Worship?

hanslan

Never, and eventually they will face annihilation. That will be Dooms Day, the day foretold by many ancient civilizations before us.

There will never be a majority following the system because the challenge is that hard and it takes very witted people and also a big effort, and it is easy to be deluded and corrupted by the world.

Be well
Amenuel

I tot u were gonna make a revelation/further insights to HanSolo's comments?

Man_of_Faith

Hello,

Peace

Do we need to worship God?

No.

If God says that he gave Adam of his Spirit. Than doesn't it mean that We too have a share of Gods Spirit?

Yes.

So do we worship each other? Our selves?

Yes. Worship is too a sort of idolization because you materialize "God". It also feeds the hierarchical instinct of the primate species of Homo sapiens.

And how do we know that the Quran in its entirety was never changed?

It is basically the same Quran manuscript that was originally made written except for minor deviations and those were discovered at Sana'a. The error lies in the interpretation of the scripture itself. The common interpretation is imaginative to say the least.

What if the verse that says that God will preserve the book in its entirity was added, by humans?

Probably an interpretation error. If Kateb is used it does not refer to a book but record or even knowledge, so "God" does preserve the same kind of lore through all times and it will not change.

To not let anyone question its truthfulness?

Everyone is allowed to question anything, but we must be as sharp and witted as we possibly can. But the clerics may have had the intention in your question.

So later some humans could add verses or delete some verses out of the book?

The scribes mainly altered words in Quran which might make it more difficult to decipher it properly except to the interpretation the scribes intended to fabricate. They added confusing diacritical markers too which are not native with the original manuscript.

Be well
Amenuel

HP_TECH

I and many more who have decided not to bother replying to your questions and comments here completely disagree with what you are insinuating regarding Allah! We do not have God's spirit within us. Do you say about Allah what you do not know people?

We are given very little knowledge of Ruh 1785
The Ruh is not a spirit but The Command of Allah like when He intends a matter He only says to it "Be" and it is. Praise be to the Most High above what you associate with Him! 1785
Of course you need to worship Allah, do you guys read Quran at all? What do you think, when you recite the first Surah? 15
Don't you know that those who are to proud to worship Allah will enter Hell? 4060

imrankhawaja

actually we dnt need to serve God... its god who is serving us... in the logic of some intelligent homo saphiens..

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608850.msg395597#msg395597

here is already a discussion about serving /worshiping/submitting God..

HP_TECH

Then peace not we seek those who don't know

Man_of_Faith

actually we dnt need to serve God... its god who is serving us... in the logic of some intelligent homo saphiens..

http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608850.msg395597#msg395597

here is already a discussion about serving /worshiping/submitting God..

If you think about it, "God" does serve everyone in this world. Letting the sun shine upon the cultivation, letting rain fall upon it, and that even if the farmer is an ignorant sinner. Even it is a service to have created us seedlings. Wisest to make the best out of it.

But according to you mankind has nothing to do to serve because we are just useless pets with no produce. Talk about who is serving who. Like a useless son who has deviant ideas.

Be well
Amenuel

imrankhawaja

yeh mr insightful . you are right everything you say you are right... becoz you are prophet... but still waiting for the proof , untill then get agree with you on something against the quran means = negetive...

i hope you will able to perform some miracles so that we can beleive on you and your words...

prophethood= miracles= alternative scripture errorless.. anything if you can provide and you can ask help from God... lets see where the wind will blow...

without all this your wording are same like flowers without fragnrance..

and please i also want the reply of this specially bold part if you have any logical response

hansolo

Adam_The_Warner

Peace

Do we need to worship God? If God says that he gave Adam of his Spirit. Than doesn't it mean that We too have a share of Gods Spirit? So do we worship each other? Our selves?

And how do we know that the Quran in its entirety was never changed? What if the verse that says that God will preserve the book in its entirity was added, by humans? To not let anyone question its truthfulness ? So later some humans could add verses or delete some verses out of the book?

Peace

I remember a verse which tells us why we pray. It said because we remember God. So prayer is done so that we may remember God because of it.

I can't find the verse. If someone can share it please. I remember a part of the verse in arabic something like "Salaat li dhikri Allah"/"Prayer is to remember God".

Zulf

I and many more who have decided not to bother replying to your questions and comments here ...

Yet it is hard to resist ;D

Man_of_Faith

yeh mr insightful . you are right everything you say you are right... becoz you are prophet... but still waiting for the proof , untill then get agree with you on something against the quran means = negetive...

i hope you will able to perform some miracles so that we can beleive on you and your words...

prophethood= miracles= alternative scripture errorless.. anything if you can provide and you can ask help from God... lets see where the wind will blow...

without all this your wording are same like flowers without fragnrance..

and please i also want the reply of this specially bold part if you have any logical response

Oh yes, miracles and you can believe, but not otherwise. Logically sound answers is not enough for you. I have proof against Quran's sectarian interpretation, this is already posted, it just takes a receptive mind when reading about it and realizing the true character. Actually it is your intelligence that is put to the test and we actually have no obligation that you should believe in it.

Be well
Amenuel

imrankhawaja

Oh yes, miracles and you can believe,

yeh sunlight is a miracle,,, for me...

my ownself character emotions are miracle for me..

growing of grass due to rain after a dead land is miracle for me...

all things are miracle for us becoz we cannot create anything by our own...

there are some other miracles like jesus christ make dead alive with the will of God.. but people still denied him.. and plan to crucify him..

quran is an excellent miraclous book but people still deny it... people try to bring an alternate of quran but still failed from last many centuries .you are also trying but from last two years your work is in process and i m very unlucky that you are not even sharing a single chapter of your work with me after requesting multiple times... how unfair

, it just takes a receptive mind when reading about it and realizing the true character. Actually it is your intelligence that is put to the test and we actually have no obligation that you should believe in it.

i think you are the only intelligent person , and your intelligence make us fool by default , so it wont help us in any way.. how unfair it is ,, look in the whole planet you are the only person of intelligence and we are unable to grasp the real meanings of quran...

is it not easy to understand quran?
or there are no more versions of intelligent people left outhere...
or yor are the only blessed person with the higher most intelligence level?

something is contradicting logically here... hmm

may God guide us to the right path pr

Man_of_Faith

So if people denied Jesus despite profound "miracles", why would you believe me?

i think you are the only intelligent person , and your intelligence make us fool by default , so it wont help us in any way.. how unfair it is ,, look in the whole planet you are the only person of intelligence and we are unable to grasp the real meanings of quran...

It is because you are not trying, you are just gullible in picking what someone else has generated for you in terms of interpretation and then you believe in it, but you are not believing when I am giving you much more logically sound elaborations, and I am constantly referring to sources from the past. And you retain to believe "haram" means both forbidden and sanctioned which are two completely different meanings like the difference between day and night. I mean you could be more intelligent than you make yourself. How hard is it to realize there is a dog buried somewhere and that "haram" means one of the alleged meanings?

And then you say I am the one who is conjecturing and is skeptical towards me who drives you to reflect?

Concerning the interpretation of Quran I told you it is out there but you should look for it. If you were interested and witted you would find it quickly.

Intelligence is also to make yourself intelligent, not allow yourself to be a fool and adhere to logic, and then logic all out and not only what your eyes can see in this instant.

Be well
Amenuel