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Wouldn't be Amazing to have a Prophet in these days of Video and YouTube?

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    hansolo
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    Peace

    Wouldn't it be amazing to have a Prophet in this age of technology and information.
    Can you imagine a Prophet communicating words of God directly into camera and than making it public in YouTube for example for the whole world to see?. Wouldn't it be murciful for all the confused and lost souls all around the world?
    Then there would be no doubt and confusion regard God and true reality of things. Does it sound, sound? It does for me.

    Well, I guess the last Prophet walked on this Earth some one thousand years back
    And reality shows that God just decided to stop sending revelations and messengers right before the age of information. How interesting and counterproductive. Or DID HE?

    The whole mankind is connected to each other more than ever. Never in history of mankind were we so connected. And yet the best we've got right now is a book written over thousand of years in Arabic. Which is too, for some reasons is in need for proper translation or serious knowdlegee of the history of the Middle East.

    Do we really expect a person from China to dwell upon the history of the Jews arabs to understand the Abrahamic religion? Why is everything so concentrated on This region of Earth as if it's the whole world?

    There are over 1 billion of Chinese? Do they care about the Jewish Arab conflict ? Do they care about The sons of Abraham? I believe it's hard for people to come close to Islam is due to the fact that it is tied closest to this one region of Earth and its culture.

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      good_logic
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      Peace hansolo.

      According to Qoran GOD has not stopped sending messengers and He will keep sending them as long as there are humans walking the earth.
      The point about confusion will remain however regardless of technology or miracles happening in front of people s eyes.
      GOD s system will never change. Every generation has its few believers and its majority of disbelievers.

      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        hansolo
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        Peace to you Good Logic

        Do we have humans that speak words of God, right now? Just like Mohammad did?

        Peace

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          good_logic
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          Peace hansolo.
          You see brother, messengers only confirm words already said by GOD to prophets before them.

          Unfortunately ,to some people ,the last messenger has come and gone and there will be no more.
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

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            hansolo
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            Peace Good Logic

            I'm open to the idea that God still chooses messengers amongst humans. However due to my limited knowledge I do knot know anyone in this day and age. Would you share with me? If you of course would like so

            Peace and Best wishes

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              good_logic
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              Peace hansolo.

              Qoran gives us a clear criteria about true and false messengers.
              Please study Qoran,the living messenger( because messengers will come and go). Follow its message and do not worry about messengers as they will only confirm what is in Qoran already.

              If however , you want to find out if there are messengers out there,then search your internet. It has countless people claiming to be messengers. The choice is yours.
              Remember my messenger may not turn out to be your messenger. You are the only one who needs to check for yourself,I cannot choose a messenger for you.
              GOD bless you.
              Peace.

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                hansolo
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                But Quran is written in Arabic. And A big part of human population does not speak this language. When one reads Quran one can see that it was given to a particular region of Earth, thus it is written in the language of the people that inhibited that region of Earth at that particular time period.

                So is it the last revelation from god to the mankind, in a book form?

                Or there are more to come or even came?

                Or God just forgot about us?

                Peace

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                  good_logic
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                  Peace hansolo.
                  Arabic is not my first language either!
                  GOD is the teacher of Qoran regardless of the language. Besides, whatever language GOD chooses there will always be those who want the revelations in a different one.

                  All translations,even a google one,will give a sincere believer a start,then leave the explaining to GOD.

                  Check the hundreds of translations out there and best of luck with your study.

                  By the way I am assuming you have an internet device you can use?
                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

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                    brother hanslo GL is right you can easily figure out the fake and true messengers...

                    if a messenger goes against quran in any sense its not a true messenger...

                    for example somebody say quran is corrupted ... and this thing goes agaisnt the teaching of quran , that its a book in preserve tablet... so lot of these type of other examples you will find.. inshAllah .. so dnt worry about the messenger or prophet...

                    the purpose of every messenger or prophet is to update the religion , or rectify the errors.. just think about very very carefully now...

                    the point i m gona tell is very logical... infact the real thing is message .. itself..

                    we have a message un corrupted .and there is no need of any messenger to come and teach the message again or correct the message again, or rectify the message again.. all three conditions exempt ..

                    so the people who claim messengership it was due to a big reason.. and sometimes their own actions become their neck trap i dnt want to mention a name but a recent example is infront of everybody...

                    instead of protecting the book of God people protect the ego of themselves which cause them to reject the very true message or a part of the message of God.. think very wisely ..

                    words of God is completed and words of God is truth and God is responsible for that universal message too...1400 years past, but tencnology age , tactics never come across that message ... cant you see .?. the beauty of that message...

                    even the mission of last prophet was to complete the message and again and again he tell to people even if something happen with me will you gonna turn back on your heel?

                    "I am NO MORE THAN A MESSENGER many were the messengers that passed away before me. If I die or am slain, will you then turn back on your heels? If any did turn back on his heels, NOT THE LEAST HARM WILL HE DO TO GOD; but God (on the other hand) will swiftly reward those who (serve Him) with gratitude." 3144

                    his mission is completed there will be no more prophet for sure... according to quran...

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                      Interesting theory. I believe some of you are referring to Rashad Khalifa? It reminds me of Quran verses 381, 4136 and the following verses

                      "And a believing man from among the people of Pharaoh, who had concealed his belief, said "Will you kill a man simply for saying 'My Lord is God', and he has come to you with proofs from your Lord? And if he is a liar, then his lie will be upon him, and if he is truthful, then some of what he is promising you will afflict you. For God does not guide any transgressor, liar." (402

                      "And Joseph had come to you before with proofs, but you remained in doubt regarding what he came to you with, until when he died, you said "God will not send any messenger after him." It is such that God sends astray he who is a transgressor, doubter." (4034)

                      "And they thought as you thought, that God would not send anyone." (727)

                      Some Quran alone muslims strongly reject the idea that there can be more messengers after Muhammad, but judging by these verses alone I cannot say Rashad was no messenger of God. Although I believe there is some miracle of 19 in the Quran, I am not a 19-er who focusses a lot on 19 nor use it as a common denominator. I respect Rashad Khalifa and watch some of his videos, but do not agree with everything he says, as even messengers can make mistakes according to the Quran (2252).

                      According to Qoran GOD has not stopped sending messengers and He will keep sending them as long as there are humans walking

                      Peace good logic. Could you refer to the verses? Thanks.

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                        Peace good logic. Could you refer to the verses? Thanks.

                        i think the wrong understanding of 3 81...

                        there are two things , a messenger of God(authorised) or just a messenger first we need to clear that concept...

                        and my brother code 19 is a discovery not a miracle.. there are lot of other discoveries before and after code 19 i wonder why all of these not become idols and why all the people who discover these things did not claim messengership..

                        let say the people who discover things in science as a facts and that are also mention in quran.. are all messengers
                        yeh the dicoveries/miracles/development will not stop untill the last day...

                        sunlight itself is a miracle.. the growth of grass tree are itself a miracle.. but properties behing their studies are discoveries.. when somebody discover something its already there.. just a weak human mind get it discover from curtains of mystery...

                        when we discover how God created all this... universe and stuff.. and we realise its a process of billion years infact.. and no doubt the God is the one who perfected it... and thats just start of our learning...

                        thats y God always advise us we shold not guess what is not percived by our minds... example the nature of God...

                        our own nature we took ages to discover , even it was there since fisrt day...

                        so this mathematical pattern is a discovery more than miracle... and yeh we should respect all the people who discover something for humanity .. including rk ... edwin hubble, hawkins, galalio, and lot of more..

                        if you want to go to the seniors discovers of mathematical pattern, i want to mention some names.. due to which this discovery become easy for rk to discover... these are.. pascal, charles babbage, and lot lot more who are responsible for making a device called computer...

                        its same like inventor of car is on one side and after sometime somebody come and discover a system that also support CNG along with patrol and diesel... so main credit go to car inventor instead of CNG kit inventor...

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                          Man_of_Faith
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                          Peace

                          Wouldn't it be amazing to have a Prophet in this age of technology and information.
                          Can you imagine a Prophet communicating words of God directly into camera and than making it public in YouTube for example for the whole world to see?. Wouldn't it be murciful for all the confused and lost souls all around the world?
                          Then there would be no doubt and confusion regard God and true reality of things. Does it sound, sound? It does for me.

                          Well, I guess the last Prophet walked on this Earth some one thousand years back
                          And reality shows that God just decided to stop sending revelations and messengers right before the age of information. How interesting and counterproductive. Or DID HE?

                          The whole mankind is connected to each other more than ever. Never in history of mankind were we so connected. And yet the best we've got right now is a book written over thousand of years in Arabic. Which is too, for some reasons is in need for proper translation or serious knowdlegee of the history of the Middle East.

                          Do we really expect a person from China to dwell upon the history of the Jews arabs to understand the Abrahamic religion? Why is everything so concentrated on This region of Earth as if it's the whole world?

                          There are over 1 billion of Chinese? Do they care about the Jewish Arab conflict ? Do they care about The sons of Abraham? I believe it's hard for people to come close to Islam is due to the fact that it is tied closest to this one region of Earth and its culture.

                          Well, really amazing, would it not?

                          By the way, Quran does not say the last prophet/Nabi has been around.

                          Be well
                          Amenuel

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                            hansolo
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                            So where did the popular belief come among the Islamists that Prophet Mohammad Peace be Upon Him, is the Gods last prophet ?

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                              imrankhawaja
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                              the one who dnt beleive Allah is God can easily believe prophet is not the seal of prophets, very simple...

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                                Peace Alper.
                                Qoran says"Ya bani Adam Imma yatiyannakum rusulun minkum ....."

                                Bani Adam are all the humans past, present and future. ,messengers will come to you...Past, present and future messengers.

                                GOD bless you.
                                Peace.

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                                  Peace Alper.
                                  Qoran says"Ya bani Adam Imma yatiyannakum rusulun minkum ....."

                                  Bani Adam are all the humans past, present and future. ,messengers will come to you...Past, present and future messengers.

                                  GOD bless you.
                                  Peace.

                                  peace GL

                                  can i have the full reference of this verse including verse and chapter number plz
                                  God bless you

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                                    So where did the popular belief come among the Islamists that Prophet Mohammad Peace be Upon Him, is the Gods last prophet ?

                                    you ask a good question brother , this popular belief comes from quran, even the RK translation what i m referring here have same understanding... about this particular subject...

                                    3340 Muhammad was not the father of any man among you. He was a messenger of GOD and the final prophet. GOD is fully aware of all things Rashad Khalifa (The Final Testament)

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                                      Salam

                                      Q 381 And when Allah took covenant (of) the Prophets(plural), "Certainly, whatever I (have) given you of (the) Book and wisdom then comes to you a Messenger(single) confirming that which (is) with you, you must believe in him and you must help him." He said, "Do you affirm and take on that (condition) My They said, "We affirm." He said, "Then bear witness, and I (am) with you among the witnesses."

                                      Even the prophets are commanded that the Rasool/messenger will come to them and confirm whats with them.They can than confirm themselves from the SCRIPTURE of Allah, not from them souls/self/psyche desires. So the scripture is the touchstone even for prophets.

                                      Is it the same Rasool/messenger the one who is also sent to ordinary believers in aya
                                      Q3164

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