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Patience-How do you perceive it?

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    imrankhawaja
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    Patience is registering on a forum expecting it to be bustling with conscious, pious, constant Quran readers, but you find it filled with trolls, shills, trigger-happy administration, racists, anti-muslims, self-procliamed messengers, loonies and deciding to stay so that the conscious reader knows they are not alone.

    Salaam

    rotfl

    i agree with rest of the post apart from this... becoz free minds forum is not mention in quran and the members as well...lol

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      A_Submitter
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      Thanks!

      That's a good list.

      Salam

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        good_logic
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        Peace HP_TECH.

        A good list,may I add

        Patience is to be patient with the highlighted folks here,quote
        Patience is registering on a forum expecting it to be bustling with conscious, pious, constant Quran readers, but you find it filled with ]trolls, shills, trigger-happy administration, racists, anti-muslims, self-procliamed messengers, loonies and deciding to stay so that the conscious reader knows they are not alone.

        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          huruf
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          I like this thread and I like all the posts.

          I read when I was a child a book by Carlyle, the cult of heroes or something like that and he said something tht I remember as patience being the most muslim virtue.

          It may be so, because finally patience is belief, believe that however long the night may be, there is a sun and it will rise, that however humilliated we may be, there is a God who gave us life and loves that life. In a way patience is faith in action, although in appearance patience seems not to be action, but it is, and also there is patience with oneself. Sometimes we are horrible and we know it, but still believe that it does not have to be so forever and that we can do something about it.

          Salaam AND patience dear forumers

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            Man_of_Faith
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            Patience is not to become emotional when the patience is put to the test. It can be a variety of situations including encounters with others including those who do not think the way you do.

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              imrankhawaja
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              Patience is not to become emotional when the patience is put to the test. It can be a variety of situations including encounters with others including those who do not think the way you do.

              yeh in this topic i am agree with you laugh

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                reel
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                Patience is not to become emotional when the patience is put to the test. It can be a variety of situations including encounters with others including those who do not think the way you do.

                How about shortcuts in certain situations? Like someone is unemployed. His friend tells him there is an illegal way to make income?
                Then also there are people who would start a business with the strange hope of earning jackpot in just a few days.

                Some believe it to mean to stay on the same course until you get the results. Many confuse it with perseverance. Others that you should let time go and wait.

                It's hard to understand what patience is in Quran context. Do we get the meaning of patience in Quran?

                I do agree with the emotional part mentioned by MOF. But when it comes to certain course what I have noticed is that sometimes it is just not the right thing for us. We can logically even come to conclusion about it in the mind. In that situation, the patience is rather a negative kind of stubbornness. Allah might just not help in that.
                Example
                Maintaining a relationship with a person who has been unfaithful too many times.

                I would say where to have patience should be based on evaluation of the situation.

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  Maintaining a relationship with a person who has been unfaithful too many times.

                  its a very critical point of somebody life... ... on one hand God advise us try to save a relationship.. on the other hand you are feeling it difficult... to continue..

                  again if you want to take a decision then things come in between. if you leave that person its mean you are selfish, you did not forgive that person....

                  its such a confuse and difficult situation..

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                    huruf
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                    OOny a perso who wants forgiveness can be forgiven. If somebody wants to be forgiven but continues doing the sme thing what he really wanted was not firgiveness but licence to do as he please. There must be a will in the erson forgiven for forgiveness to be of any use. You forgive a murderer if he really repented and was not to murder any more. But what is the use or th relity of forgiving a murderer who wants to continue murdering?

                    Salaam

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      murdering someone is different ,,

                      the matter of relationship and matter of free will and pre destiny both are very difficult and complicated subjects.. the ultimate knowledge regarding that matters are with God i think... we only represent theories in both of these matters..

                      sometimes we see our partner is not loyal or not taking good care of home and finances but after knowing this we never wanted to get seperate becoz of kids ... or some other reasons, some devilish people realised it and start taking advantage of the situation..

                      sometimes this life is full of shit but , we are advised to be patient all the times.. hence full stop to emotions logics, wrong doings.. or most accurate wait the judgement and results that god will bring for us...

                      God even dnt speak with us... never replied us... even after talking with him telling him problems , there is still a silence from God... what a human do?

                      i was confused but my understanding of outcomes of choices change after an experience

                      when there are two bodies attach the system of outcomes change the shape...

                      let say a person told me he did not do anything wrong , why badluck happened with him? next time he will not gona picka right path becoz he suffered pain on right path ..

                      when one perosn is on right path and other is wicked let say in husband wife reltionship.... what result will come... most of the cases the right person suffered more than wicked.. isnt it..

                      its due to a reason there is a mix and match outcomes ,, but in long run the wicked never get happy and the victory approaches to right one, although due to a wrong choice of selecting this person suffered a pain but God select an alternate for him which is more good... than previous... although i could not properly explain in words may b more experince of life teach me more lessons lol...

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