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Is GOD running everything?

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    Man_of_Faith
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    Man of Faith, when you say Flawless. Do you mean people like Bill Gates, Steve Jobs, Elon Musk and etc. Humans that are making a mark in the world ? Affecting the timeline so to speak.

    What makes those people flawless? The one who makes a mark is the person who contributes to spiritual development. The control of someone still being evaluated is very limited, they are not allowed to affect with a manager's control because that would make a deluded person dangerous and they remain "cut off from the source" (offline) until ready except if the established managers deem it okay for someone to still have (mostly limited) control while still in the flesh, e.g. Jesus healing flesh and resurrecting dead people.

    Be well
    Amenuel

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      Jafar
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      what is our purpose? what is the purpose of life ? why there is pain ?
      why he created us... ?

      what advantage God is getting by this self control?

      This universe that we're living in (and share with trillion of other species whether in this planet or others) is not created for the sake of God. God (or any other name one call it or him) doesn't need anything and is the most unselfish, unegoistic 'thing'.

      Thus God is NOT getting anything from this universe and everything in it, but He (or It) gives anything to make this universe with trillion of galaxies exist and sustain.

      Such are among the thing / attitude (read Unselfish, Unegoistic) that you will need to learn on this very very short life of yours... The importance of GIVING rather than TAKING.
      You may not learn about it NOW, but you will.. as the events on your life unfold..

      It's hard to swallow for human brain, as for many millenias it's shaped for survivability on a hostile planet, where food is scarce and human need to fight to TAKE what he or she needs.

      why i will serve/work for a company that will never pay me wages? or if i dnt need wages what is the purpose of my working/serving something?

      Such is among the things that you will learn.

      your answer did not cover what i ask

      You need to realize the answer yourselves.... as others did.. I or anybody else cannot help you with that..

      my reply 17 in which i provide you a logical proof of judgement day i see you did not bother to talk about it..? i dont know why ..

      Tell me then what is YOUR understanding of 'judgement day', how long will it takes, what is happening there..

      To me, every day is a judgement day, every millisecond is a judgement millisecond..
      The best attitude.. accept the 'judgement'..

      me and you we both dnt know what future holds, but we beleive if its from God we must accepet it...

      Exactly... but no IF... all the events in the past present and future.. is happening as it was supposed to be..
      The best attitude is to accept it..

      we did not see God but we beleive.... ?

      It's unfortunate that you cannot see God.. or should I say realize that God is here there and everywhere and every millisecond everyone sees Him or It.

      you really dnt need to beleive in God as well becoz God is a myth same like judgement day... the early humans invented it for scaring the kids... in reality no God exist becoz we dnt have any proof...

      The Ancient Egyptian priests invented "Judgment of the Dead" in order to

      • Make people BUY the Holy Book Of The Dead, the only item which can 'save' the soul and it cost as much as a Ferrari car if it's today's currency.
      • Make people obey the law as decreed by the priest and the pharaoh, (ie the #1 offense and unforgiven in the Judgement of the dead is when you steal the pharaoh's horses)
      • Make people pay tribute to the temple and worship the deities which will appears after your death. (Osiris, Seth, Amit, Tet, Ra, Anubis etc..)
      • Make people willing to pay the high cost of embalment and ceremonial burial of the deceased, as it's among the prerequisite for eternal life.

      http//www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/funerary_practices/anubis.jpg
      "Pay good heed to the weighing in the Balance of the heart of the Osiris, the singing-woman of Amen, Anhai, whose word is truth, and place thou her heart in the seat of truth in the presence of the Great God"

      http//www.reshafim.org.il/ad/egypt/funerary_practices/scales.jpg

      The Court that judges the wretch,
      You know they are not lenient,
      On the day of judging the miserable,
      In the hour of doing their task.
      It is painful when the accuser has knowledge,
      Do not trust in length of years,
      They view a lifetime in an hour!

      May Isis kneel over you and wash your newborn form, may she set you
      on the good path of those who are judged innocent
      in the face of any enemies who'd accuse you before the judges of Tomb-world,
      on the blessed day you pass beyond.
      I shall see lightland! I shall dwell in it. I shall judge the poor and the wealthy.
      I shall do the same for the evil-doers; for mine is life, I am its lord, and the scepter will not be taken from me.

      O my heart of my being!
      Do not rise up against me as witness,
      Do not oppose me in the tribunal,
      Do not rebel against me before the guardian of the scales!
      You are my ka within my body,
      The Khnum who prospers my limbs.
      Go to the good place prepared for us,
      Do not make my name stink before them,
      The magistrates who put people in their places!
      If it's good for us it's good for the judge,
      It pleases him who renders judgment.
      Do not invent lies before the god,
      Before the great god, the lord of the west,
      Lo, your uprightness brings vindication!

      Come," says Thoth, "why have you come?"
      "I have come and I press forward so that I may be announced."
      "What now is your condition?"
      "I am purified from evil things, I am protected from the evil deeds of those who live in their days I am not among them."
      "Now I will announce you. But who is he whose heaven is fire, whose walls are cobras, and whose floor is a stream of water? Who is he, I say?"
      "He is Osiris."
      "Come forward, then, you will be announced to him. Your cakes will come from the Eye of Ra, your beer from the Eye, your meals of the dead from the Eye. This has been decreed for the Osiris the overseer of the house of the overseer of the seal, Nu, triumphant."

      His heart is righteous, and it hath come forth from the Balance;
      it hath not sinned against any god or any goddess.
      Thoth hath weighed it according to the decree pronounced unto him by the Company of the Gods,
      and it is most true and righteous.
      Grant thou that cakes and ale may be given unto him,
      and let him appear in the presence of the god Osiris,
      and let him be like into the Followers of Horus for ever and ever.

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        Jafar
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        Jafar, Brother

        Dont you think the real meaning of the Judgment day is

        The Last Day of Judgment. When all humans will learn compassion and love to each other.

        Hope you well

        An interesting view.. I would say yes.. perhaps...

        The traditional view of "Judgement Day" is a "Blaming / Punishing Event"..
        Where the deities will ask for the "defense" of why the defendant perform such and such..
        Mostly inspired by what happened on the "Judgement Court" between 4000 years ago up until today.
        The accused brought forward, the 'judge' sitting on the throne asking questions...
        Before finally decree the proper punishment for the accused..

        Truly every human made a mistake.. because only through mistakes they will learn..
        Thus it depends on the 'standard' of the 'judge', the 'judgement ceremony' is useless if the 'judge' already have the intention to punish the accused. He will find any mistakes that he need to justify the punishment...
        You can see this in any court whether it's 4000 years ago or even today..

        And there is no absolute good or evil in human, every good man has a dark side within him and every evil man has a good side within him.

        Having said that These sentences makes sense to me

        Do not judge, or you will be judged.
        For with the same judgement you pronounce, you will also be judged;
        And with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
        Why do you look at the speck in your brother?s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?
        -- Matt 72

        We all make mistakes and we are VERY BAD at realizing our own mistakes.
        Mostly due to our own 'ego'.
        Thus the best attitude is; not to judge others but understand them..
        Always forgive others because we cannot realize our own mistakes..
        By such we hope that our mistakes (which we don't and never realize by ourselves) will also be forgiven..

        "and forgive us of our sins as we also have forgiven those who have sinned against us"
        -- Matt 69

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          truthseeker11
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          Peace Jafar,

          Such are among the thing / attitude (read Unselfish, Unegoistic) that you will need to learn on this very very short life of yours... The importance of GIVING rather than TAKING.

          Do not judge, or you will be judged.
          For with the same judgement you pronounce, you will also be judged;
          And with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
          Why do you look at the speck in your brother?s eye, but fail to notice the beam in your own eye?
          -- Matt 72

          We all make mistakes and we are VERY BAD at realizing our own mistakes.
          Mostly due to our own 'ego'.
          Thus the best attitude is; not to judge others but understand them..
          Always forgive others because we cannot realize our own mistakes..
          By such we hope that our mistakes (which we don't and never realize by ourselves) will also be forgiven..

          "and forgive us of our sins as we also have forgiven those who have sinned against us"
          -- Matt 69

          bravo bravo bravo

          Thank you for the words of wisdom. Forgiveness is the only thing that stops karma in its tracks.

          Peace

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            Alper88
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            Not exactly the reactions I was hoping for.. D I think everyone is just assuming something without actually listening to the videos? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

            If you'd carefully watched the videos of Rashad he said that we DO have a choice... to side with God's kingdom or not. When you do, God is taking over and is running everything in your life, testing you, etc.

            You can't blame murder, rape, etc. on God because that is the own doing of man. Satan inflicts the damage (by God's law) as soon as a person decides to leave God's kingdom and listen to Satan instead.. as explained in the videos.

            And the devil will say, after the judgment had been issued, "GOD has promised you the truthful promise, and I promised you, but I broke my promise. I had no power over you; I simply invited you, and you accepted my invitation. Therefore, do not blame me, and blame only yourselves. My complaining cannot help you, nor can your complaining help me. I have disbelieved in your idolizing me. The transgressors have incurred a painful retribution."

            "Anything good that happens to you is from GOD, and anything bad that happens to you is from you. We have sent you as a messenger to the people, and GOD suffices as witness."

            By the way, what do you guys think of these verses from chapter 57?
            "Anything that happens on earth, or to you, has already been recorded, even before the creation. This is easy for GOD to do."
            "Thus, you should not grieve over anything you miss, nor be proud of anything He has bestowed upon you. GOD does not love those who are boastful, proud."

            Footnote by Rashad
            5722 We are absolutely free to side with God, or with Satan. God happens to know precisely what kind of decision each of us will make. The video tape of your life, from birth to death, is already recorded. See Appendix 14 http//masjidtucson.org/quran/appendices/appendix14.html

            What do you guys think? How would you explain this in simple English? Doesn't this confirm that Rashad is right in the videos about God running everything?

            Peace.

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              hansolo
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              So this means that we are just mere actors playing our roles in this Grand World Theater ?

              WOW

              Hahahaha

              Than whats the point of all of this ?

              Do what thou wilt? As satanists say. Because everything is already pre recorded, right ?

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                imrankhawaja
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                So this means that we are just mere actors playing our roles in this Grand World Theater ?

                WOW

                Hahahaha

                Than whats the point of all of this ?

                Do what thou wilt? As satanists say. Because everything is already pre recorded, right ?

                brother hansolo... look this perosn is also learning the way he qouted verses and putting mr khalifa inside make me think this my brother need to do more research/study...

                secondly 4 79 is addressed to messenger , coz people blame messenger for their loses and then this verses is telling them if something Good happen to you you consider it happen from God and if something unlucky happen then suddenly you point out your guns toeards messenger...

                57 22 already recorded mean its already in the knowledge of God... (its khalifa translation if i have good memory)
                anyway i like some of his interpretations anyway so i carry on with this..

                part 1st
                let say you have a shop and you have choice if you open it you will earn 100 rs if you dnt open the shop then you will not earn 100 rs...

                now what choice you will make , its already in the knowledge of God due to the highness of God, that what logic and reason and aqal tell us to believe about creator... but again he is not interjecting in making your choice ... but he know what you choose... like in a test a teacher know which student will pass and fail , but he only make a student learn...

                while in the examination he will not interject ... to correct you otherwise its called cheating and God is not a cheater...

                brother hansolo before jumping to your conclusion first think ab out it... if you are a weak student of learning things like me... than take your time... sometimes only one verse when i get confuse i spend hours on words, histories, sciences and everything for better understand what is the actual meanings... and sometimes i even could not find my answers... but honestly thats where i feel the answer suddenly comes in my mind ,, nd obvioulsy its from God ....

                have you ever approach God ? for seeking all your confusions and answers
                you are telling to us who are also a travellors like you in the same boat...

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  @ jaffar handshake

                  your understandings i respect , but the limit of accepting your understanding for me is only untill it will not come across with the book of God...

                  and the person like you i dnt think i need to tell you anything obviously u know lot more than me... more than God, more than quran...

                  what i wanted to do this boy hansolo is in his teenage .. and some of the things you say him it will drive him away from the right path... so i just share my things to help him... if he already beleive in quran..

                  but what i see i wasted my time...

                  you told him there is no judgement day he get excited...
                  if you told him this life is not fair ... he will get exicted
                  if you told him the negetive thing he will excited , for accepting positive things he make about faces...

                  let say if i release a criminal and somebody brain wash him , there is no police, no court , no judgement so do whatever you want...
                  and he start robbing things.. and suddenly police catch him and court punish him...

                  the first thing he will do he will swear the person who brainwashed him...

                  although when he'll release from prison he still have a chance to spend life according to the laws of God...

                  what we all gona do when we already know we have one chance... if somebody still reject the verses of clear book nd want to listen the lectures of self claim scholars then on the day of judgement their matter will be with their God..

                  so lets see obviously there is a judgement day/last day.. and only the rejector of verses can deny it... if you are one of them then there is really no need that we discuss anything , becoz you dnt beleive in what i beleive.. but i still respect you
                  not your views... its the matter of choice , and we both are free to choose whatever we think best..

                  peace

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                    As time is passing, the knowledge of Islam is becoming corrupted. The only guidance we can receive is from our Quran because it can never be altered. ALLAH is the supreme. He runs the universe. Sometimes people ask ALLAH to show them the miraculous. Because they want to know if ALLAH exist. But they fail to realize the fact that everything around us is a miracle. He is already showing us the miraculous on daily basic. If we want to receive the guidance then we should read the translation of Quran. Prayers, patience and Quran can guide a Muslim to succeed in this life and the afterlife.

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                      As time is passing, the knowledge of Islam is becoming corrupted. The only guidance we can receive is from our Quran because it can never be altered. ALLAH is the supreme. He runs the universe. Sometimes people ask ALLAH to show them the miraculous. Because they want to know if ALLAH exist. But they fail to realize the fact that everything around us is a miracle. He is already showing us the miraculous on daily basic. If we want to receive the guidance then we should read the translation of Quran. Prayers, patience and Quran can guide a Muslim to succeed in this life and the afterlife.

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                        Man_of_Faith
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                        As time is passing, the knowledge of Islam is becoming corrupted. The only guidance we can receive is from our Quran because it can never be altered. ALLAH is the supreme. He runs the universe. Sometimes people ask ALLAH to show them the miraculous. Because they want to know if ALLAH exist. But they fail to realize the fact that everything around us is a miracle. He is already showing us the miraculous on daily basic. If we want to receive the guidance then we should read the translation of Quran. Prayers, patience and Quran can guide a Muslim to succeed in this life and the afterlife.

                        You say it cannot be altered? Explain why there was discovered manipulated Quran manuscripts in Sana'a.

                        Be well
                        Amenuel

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                          Jafar
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                          As time is passing, the knowledge of Islam is becoming corrupted. The only guidance we can receive is from our Quran because it can never be altered. ALLAH is the supreme. He runs the universe. Sometimes people ask ALLAH to show them the miraculous. Because they want to know if ALLAH exist. But they fail to realize the fact that everything around us is a miracle. He is already showing us the miraculous on daily basic. If we want to receive the guidance then we should read the translation of Quran. Prayers, patience and Quran can guide a Muslim to succeed in this life and the afterlife.

                          The only thing that (so far) hasn't change so much is human tendency to idolize something.. whether it's in a form of statue, amulet, people including dead people, book or a set of books / scrolls..
                          It's not as if it's something bad or evil.. it just the nature of human being...

                          The most 'damaging' doctrine within the religion / tradition of Islam is about "God has stopped the revelation" to humankind. While as matter of fact it hasn't.
                          Such doctrine makes the society who adopted such tradition to stop seeking and questioning or even hope for new revelation and knowledge from the true God...

                          For those who seek guidance from the true God, the God of compassion and all knowing.. what they need to do is just ask and seek.. and they will eventually received it.. the channel of the revelation doesn't matter, the true God has trillions of channel and media of communication...

                          The true God's law cannot be altered.. while books and words can easily be altered by human...

                          It has been proven that we have been wrong about so many things about this universe.
                          Many things that what we think as truth 1400 years ago turns out to be false...
                          And the revelation from God hasn't stopped..
                          1400 years from now, many things that we now know as truth will turns out to be false...

                          Seek out the revelation, because it hasn't stopped..
                          Be open minded, never stop questioning, asking, thinking and pondering...
                          God is always with us all and shall guide those who asked.. regardless of the religion, race, ancestry, identity, ideology, nationality etc....

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