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That is the person who falls into the trap and whoever has that wish will be a loser.
hmm so solomon wish for kingdom,,, was he a loser...?
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He and David were chosen kings and did not strive to be kings, and Solomon inherited the crown from his father. They did not desire and they were not your typical king. Solomon's kingdom became wealthy, but that is a result when you are wise and make proper decisions. It was not only Solomon himself who was wealthy but his whole kingdom.
If David had been striving to become a king due to his own desires (the instinctive desire to dominate) he would have been a loser.
Be well
Amenuel -
He and David were chosen kings and did not strive to be kings, and Solomon inherited the crown from his father. They did not desire and they were not your typical king. Solomon's kingdom became wealthy, but that is a result when you are wise and make proper decisions. It was not only Solomon himself who was wealthy but his whole kingdom.
If David had been striving to become a king due to his own desires (the instinctive desire to dominate) he would have been a loser.
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Amenueldo u forget the event of horses. when solomon ask a kingdom ... after regretting.. he was already a king/prince at that time isnt it?
do u forget david takeover the kingdom from cruel king by killing him?
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yes brother alhamdulliah i follow the teaching of jesus. son of mary...
i respect him .. i love him... and i beleive in the message he bring from lord of the worlds...
the only reason is becoz his teaching and every other prophet teaching was same... and all were peacemakers/submittors/muslims and were authorised by God with proofs and reasons...as well as miracles...
.. about gospels , ahadith, and the man made stuff.. i do read it but with care as i know the human injecting things which cause harm more than benefits...
God bless you...
Oh i don't want to read narrations from men about "Religion" if they are not send by our Lord.
And about "about gospels", i wouldn't talk to fast about the new testament without opening your heart for the truth alone.
Doesn't the Quran tell us in 547 that Mohammed did let the people of the Gospel judge with the Gospel and what God had revealed therein? Doesn't that mean that there was a Gospel in the time of Mohammed?
And what about the Quran when it teaches us that there will be people who will following Jesus, son of Mary, the Messiah until the Day of Judgement? He was the Messiah after all.
Anyways, may our Lord protect us against the whisperings of the devils, the accursed devil and from them coming closer to us.
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hmm so solomon wish for kingdom,,, was he a loser...?
Solomon was King of Israel. So yes, he was a winner !
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do u forget the event of horses. when solomon ask a kingdom ... after regretting.. he was already a king/prince at that time isnt it?
do u forget david takeover the kingdom from cruel king by killing him?
David does not kill Saul, and he does never desire to be king but is chosen king by God. He defeats Goliath, but that is not to be in domination.
Solomon cannot ask for a kingdom that he already has. Quran's story (sectarian version) relays that Solomon commits a mistake by those horses, it appears to reveal negatively that he was too absorbed by worldly matters.
You cannot find anywhere anyone spiritual who asks for more of this world, and if there is any indication of that it is falsely attributed to the divine perimeter.
Be well
Amenuel -
every king is chosen by God... every rank God set for humans...
you are telling me about solomon according to quran, did you analyse ever in the life what bible and stuff are saying regarding solomon that he was a play boy and sinner... common bro..
quran never talk illogical.. and yeh he defeats goliath , kill goliath, and takeover the kingship,,, obviously with the willness of God...
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He takes the kingship from Saul, imran. Goliath is occupying Saul's kingdom and David is just one among Saul's men while they encounter Goliath. Quran says David defeats Goliath.
The Quran's traditional interpretation is full of illogical and primitive claims, which is based on that it is just a very poor interpretation.
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Amenuel -
2251 So they defeated them by God's leave. Thus, David killed Goliath, and God gave him the kingship and the wisdom and taught him what He wished. Had it not been for God pushing the people to challenge one another, then the earth would have long been corrupted. But God has done favor over the worlds.
brother i dnt know which quran you are reading...
may be in your own mind he did not killed him , oh yeh i forget you dnt accept seterian lies...
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BTW what is illogical in killing somebody...specially in wars..
let fit your interpretation in one of the claim... when a brother killed another brother and crow show him method how to hide his body... do u remember...
let say killing mean not murdering then its mean he was burring him alive... rotfl
and dnt yo see every ten miutes a murder is happening in this planet...
530 So he found it in himself to kill his brother; so he killed him. He thus became one of the losers
your kind comments are always welcome take your time and make up a story what exactly happened with brother...
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2251 So they defeated them by God's leave. Thus, David killed Goliath, and God gave him the kingship and the wisdom and taught him what He wished. Had it not been for God pushing the people to challenge one another, then the earth would have long been corrupted. But God has done favor over the worlds.
brother i dnt know which quran you are reading...
may be in your own mind he did not killed him , oh yeh i forget you dnt accept seterian lies...
You are just quoting a translation, but the Arabic text says in there "defeat" not kill.
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BTW what is illogical in killing somebody...specially in wars..
let fit your interpretation in one of the claim... when a brother killed another brother and crow show him method how to hide his body... do u remember...
What are you talking about? My logic is sound, but you are just trying to find some way of messing around. I did not say it is illogical killing in wars, but the previous post's verse does not say David killed Goliath, it says he subdued him. I have not said David did not actually kill Goliath, but the writing says he was subdued, defeated.
let say killing mean not murdering then its mean he was burring him alive... rotfl
and dnt yo see every ten miutes a murder is happening in this planet...
What the Hell are you talking about? How is it related?
530 So he found it in himself to kill his brother; so he killed him. He thus became one of the losers
your kind comments are always welcome take your time and make up a story what exactly happened with brother...
Whatever the text says in reality, the passage uses the word qatel, just like the other one about David and Goliath, and the word qatel means to subdue, master and defeat someone. When you have physically subdued someone the person either dies from your actions or is somehow immobilized, but from the word alone it is not possible to see what happened to the person unless you specify his fate.
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Amenuel -
go and see arabic text the same word on both occassion is used....
its look like you want to interpret the word qatal whatever wish comes in your mind... in some cases
its convince..
in some cases its beating( moses boy event)
in some cases its defeat(david event)
in some cases its killing (story of first murder)
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It is illogical that you use the same word for multiple different reasons. You tend to speak about logic yet you make silly arguments. Qatel means to subdue someone and it is all it means. It does not imply whether a person dies or not from the qatel'ing but that would be needed to be written out in that case.
I said it says defeated in the story of David and it is you and your friends who translate it as kill and that is not my problem.
Moses did not kill a person but tried to defeat the opposition he had when preaching his message and he had to get out of there.
In all instances it speaks of defeating someone, and it can be violently or non-violently and the person may die or not die.
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It is illogical that you use the same word for multiple different reasons. You tend to speak about logic yet you make silly arguments. Qatel means to subdue someone and it is all it means. It does not imply whether a person dies or not from the qatel'ing but that would be needed to be written out in that case.
I said it says defeated in the story of David and it is you and your friends who translate it as kill and that is not my problem.
Moses did not kill a person but tried to defeat the opposition he had when preaching his message and he had to get out of there.
In all instances it speaks of defeating someone, and it can be violently or non-violently and the person may die or not die.
lol bravo
why stopped , where is the logic of first murder. did he also convinced him or defaeat him? and then burried him under earth... w3as it not a qatal
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I said it says defeated in the story of David and it is you and your friends who translate it as kill and that is not my problem.
hahahahaha , its not a problem at all trust me...
yeh but if david let him go, jalut will definately come after him after some time... as we know he was one of the wicked... where he gone after that... ?
or he just start spending a slave life under the kingdom of david... what do u think...
where is ur evidence from history he did not kill him?
i m just tired of your logics when you are unable to provide any evidence ... whatsoever...