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What happened to the homosexuals in the time of Lot?

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    Adam_The_Warner
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    An English translation of the Quran - 781 "You are approaching the men out of desire instead of the women! Indeed, you are a transgressing people."

    An English translation of the Quran - 26165 "Do you approach the males of the worlds?" 26166 "And you leave what your Lord has created for you of mates? You are an intrusive people!"

    An English translation of the Quran - 780 And Lot, he said to his people "Do you commit immorality such as none of those of the worlds had done before?"

    Let's dig deeper An English translation of the Quran - 33 He sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between his hands; and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel.

    An English translation of the Torah - Leviticus 1822 ?Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination.?

    An English translation of the Torah - Leviticus 2013 ?If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.?

    So really, just stop saying that you can stay gay.

    An English translation of the Quran - 5433 The people of Lot rejected the warners. 5434 We sent upon them projectiles. Except for the family of Lot, We saved them at dawn. 5435 A blessing from Us; it is thus that We reward the thankful. 5436 And he warned them about Our punishment, but they ridiculed the warnings.

    Stop ridiculing the warnings by stopping to promote that lewdness!

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      Abdul-Hadi
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      Greetings and Peace, all group

      Ah, the Old Testament! Al Qur'an states that it (AQ) is enough for a believer...

      Here are some scientific falsehoods in Leviticus

      115 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
      116 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

      Coneys and hares don't chew cud.

      1113 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
      1114 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
      1115 Every raven after his kind;
      1116 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
      1117 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
      1118 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
      1119 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

      Bats aren't birds.

      Know what else is an "abomination" according to Leviticus?

      Shellfish, such as shrimp or oysters. I'd have to say that shellfish are exactly as much as abomination as homosexual acts!

      I'd have to type all day to point out the problems just in the Book of Leviticus. Feel free to read up on it.

      http//www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/intro.html

      The Qur'anic ayat have already been addressed in other threads, I'll provide links if need be.

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609009.msg397859#msg397859

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601872.msg269936#msg269936

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605571.0

      http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603761.msg296560#msg296560

      Have a blessed day, all.

      peace

      ~Abdul-Hadi

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        Adam_The_Warner
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        Greetings and Peace, all group

        Ah, the Old Testament! Al Qur'an states that it (AQ) is enough for a believer...

        Here are some scientific falsehoods in Leviticus

        115 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
        116 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

        Coneys and hares don't chew cud.

        1113 And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls ; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
        1114 And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
        1115 Every raven after his kind;
        1116 And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
        1117 And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
        1118 And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
        1119 And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.

        Bats aren't birds.

        Know what else is an "abomination" according to Leviticus?

        Shellfish, such as shrimp or oysters. I'd have to say that shellfish are exactly as much as abomination as homosexual acts!

        I'd have to type all day to point out the problems just in the Book of Leviticus. Feel free to read up on it.

        http//www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/lev/intro.html

        The Qur'anic ayat have already been addressed in other threads, I'll provide links if need be.

        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609009.msg397859#msg397859

        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9601872.msg269936#msg269936

        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9605571.0

        http//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9603761.msg296560#msg296560

        Have a blessed day, all.

        peace

        ~Abdul-Hadi

        Do you know Hebrew? Could you tell us what is written in the Hebrew Torah in Leviticus?

        If you can't, then just don't try to manipulate the word of God that was send to Moses by using translations.

        Anyways, the thread is about homosexuality. And no, i am not going to visit your "links". I should use that time to learn Hebrew instead. And read the original Torah in it's original language.

        And your claim about the torah in leviticus 115 and 6 are wrong, i won't pay attention to your further claims. You should become sincere, where is your knowledge of the Hebrew language.

        Shalom!

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          Adam_The_Warner
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          An English translation of the Quran - 781 "You are approaching the men out of desire instead of the women! Indeed, you are a transgressing people."

          An English translation of the Quran - 26165 "Do you approach the males of the worlds?" 26166 "And you leave what your Lord has created for you of mates? You are an intrusive people!"

          An English translation of the Quran - 780 And Lot, he said to his people "Do you commit immorality such as none of those of the worlds had done before?"

          Let's dig deeper An English translation of the Quran - 33 He sent down to you the Book with the truth, authenticating what is between his hands; and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel.

          An English translation of the Torah - Leviticus 1822 ?Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination.?

          An English translation of the Torah - Leviticus 2013 ?If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.?

          So really, just stop saying that you can be gay.

          An English translation of the Quran - 5433 The people of Lot rejected the warners. 5434 We sent upon them projectiles. Except for the family of Lot, We saved them at dawn. 5435 A blessing from Us; it is thus that We reward the thankful. 5436 And he warned them about Our punishment, but they ridiculed the warnings.

          Stop ridiculing the warnings by stopping to promote that lewdness!

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            Man_of_Faith
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            115 And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
            116 And the hare, because he cheweth the cud , but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.

            I think some translations say "graze". I wonder which is the right translation. The animals allowed seem to be animals which live strictly on a herbivore's diet.

            As for the fowls I would suppose the writing refers to all flying animals and not birds specifically. Bats are flying animals although they are mammals.

            Not saying I think that the translation or source of the Bible to truthfully reflect ancient wisdom though. What the Bible seems to like to convey is that one should not eat a predator but an animal which is vegetarian. Why it does not allow the hare or coney is however a question.

            But I doubt this is something one can use to say it is scientifically incorrect.

            Be well
            Amenuel

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              Jafar
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              https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eunuch

              The process done to them
              https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castration

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                imrankhawaja
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                what is the difference between them(enuch) and transgender..?
                its such confusing now...

                people claim transgender are naturally born males of female version... half male half female... i just could not get it all my life trust me..

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