Difference between believers and People of the Scripture
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"And do not marry polytheistic women until they believe. And a believing slave woman is better than a polytheist, even though she might please you. And do not marry polytheistic men until they believe. And a believing slave is better than a polytheist, even though he might please you. Those invite to the Fire, but Allah invites to Paradise and to forgiveness, by His permission. And He makes clear His verses to the people that perhaps they may remember."
" This day good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them. And chaste women from among the believers and chaste women from among those who were given the Scripture before you, when you have given them their due compensation, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse or taking lovers. And whoever denies the faith - his work has become worthless, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."
In the Qur'an there is a difference between believers and people of the Scripture.
Believers = people who followed Muhammad/Quran
People of the Scripture = Jews, Christians, etc.(This is how I understand it, if I'm wrong please correct me).
Is it possible that 2221 is saying "don't marry polytheists until they become believers" (followers of Muhammad/Quran, and NOT people of the Scripture)? Meaning that in 2221 it tells us that both men and women can marry Muslim people, and in 55 that only men can marry people of the Scripture?
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There're no such persons as Jews and Christians, it's New Age (after Dark Age) forgery.
So Ehl-ul-Kitab are not Jews and Christians. As I understood, they're jinns. Some of them are mu'minoon and muslimoon, but most are kafiroon and other negative categories of creations. -
Unfortunately for you, Quran explicitly addresses Yahoods which are Jews in English, so your claim does not hold. Now I agree however that the word Jew is an adjectival noun as in a description of a person with a type of attribute to them. It means something like "guided" but more that a person can see the way for themselves. That is philosophically how to be a Jew.
The term Nazarene is a word meaning something like Blessed, Baptized or Saved and this is indeed referring to John the Baptist style of religious doctrine.
Baptism and Guided style of religious doctrines were contending with each other for centuries in the Middle East. Neither of them are wrong, but they stare themselves blind on their way of thinking, like tunnel-vision.
Baptism includes symbolic cleansing and that a new start will elevate the spirit of the practitioner. It was relatively new 2000 years ago as a faith and caused a rift in Judaism (as we call it today). Christianity today is a form of baptism belief.
Guiding is about that concrete knowledge will be the key to progress. Those emphasize more on strict rituals and rules in being able to hold a discipline in order to reject Satan.
The Pharisee clergymen in the Biblical Gospels are clearly belonging to the Guided while John the Baptist with followers were believing in Baptism aka Nazaren.
Both faith systems have strengths and weaknesses, but the wise one takes from them both instead of selecting one. Discipline is important, but it is not all. Baptism seems to be more redeeming to people in general. It is also to be having the spirit of someone with you at all times, but this is blasphemous in the Jewish doctrine because God is clearly a separate grandiose entity which is the side effect of a too concrete perception.
Anyways, Guided/Jews and Baptized/Nazarenes were two feuding sects in the past but the difference in religious thinking is still relevant today. Those who believe in reincarnation and New starts at death are basically today's Baptists which could be narrowed down to East Asian faiths today while one chance believers are belonging to the Guided belief and we could categorize Christians, Jews and Muslims here. Ancient "Christianity" was people who believed in reincarnation and cannot be counted in here.
Also, doctrinally, Baptists believe you must be joining the kingdom at hand while you are still alive in your present life. If you fail you will have to play it over again. If you did not reach Heaven before death, you also failed and will have to try again. The other doctrine thinks you must become fulfilled and will know first after your only one lifetime and opportunity if you succeeded. They will vehemently refuse to acknowledge anyone being ascended while still being alive and prophets are directly God sent and holy, which sounds much like modern Islam. This is why they could not accept certain prophets (ahum... Eysua to mention one) due to their deluded belief. Eysua did not confirm their flimsy doctrine and that was their main reason for turning him down.
Be well
Qarael Amenuel -
First of all, I don't want and I can't forbid anybody to chose name for themselves.
There're at least 3 names in the Qur'an for people we know as Jews. There're at least 3 types of Jews, recognized as those from Beni Israil, Khazars and Ethiopian Jews.
Are all of these mentioned in ayets brother talked about? No.
Christians? I think there's no need to comment.
But the question is not about what we understand as Jews and Christians, the question is about Ehl-ul-Kitab or Ool-ul-Kitab.
What we are doing wrong is that we're taking ayets partially, as some of its words are not important.Allah swt told us "min qablikum" (before you). Who and what?
If El-Kitab is understood as "The Book" then it doesn't matter how we'll understand the rest of this ayet (or any).
If we understand the word El-Kitab properly, then we should think about whole ayet 55. This is one of most important ayets in the Qur'an.
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Peace,
God taught man words to distinguish things, thus he communicates to people on a way they can understand,
People of the book is a label in a context,
As God says anyone who believes in him and his books messengers angels and the last day etc is a believer, thus it is lawful to marry any 2 believers regardless of labels etc.
Provided its a man and a woman, obviously
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First of all, I don't want and I can't forbid anybody to chose name for themselves.
There're at least 3 names in the Qur'an for people we know as Jews. There're at least 3 types of Jews, recognized as those from Beni Israil, Khazars and Ethiopian Jews.
Are all of these mentioned in ayets brother talked about? No.
Christians? I think there's no need to comment.
But the question is not about what we understand as Jews and Christians, the question is about Ehl-ul-Kitab or Ool-ul-Kitab.
What we are doing wrong is that we're taking ayets partially, as some of its words are not important.Allah swt told us "min qablikum" (before you). Who and what?
If El-Kitab is understood as "The Book" then it doesn't matter how we'll understand the rest of this ayet (or any).
If we understand the word El-Kitab properly, then we should think about whole ayet 55. This is one of most important ayets in the Qur'an.
It is inconsistent to consider Al-kateb to mean the book.
Be well
Qarael Amenuel