Questions for QURAN only Muslims?
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The verses you just quoted are according to another person's interpretation.
you can challange the interpretation , if you feel they interpret it wrong... and bring your interpretation with proof of language in hand... (with cross referencing and meanings of words in arabic)
if God is saying in arabic... 2+2= 4 you interpret it as 2+2= 4 in english whats wrong in it...
if the color of grass is green , i will interpret it as green... its another matter what make it green.. blue + yellow also make green...
but it does not mean i interpret the green color as mixture of blue and yellow
same what bkanwar brother is doing...
let me tell you one thing if i say to somebody i bring television in home...
and another choice is i bring a far view in my home..?thats whats tele -vision actually mean...
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you can challange the interpretation , if you feel they interpret it wrong... and bring your interpretation with proof of language in hand... (with cross referencing and meanings of words in arabic)
if God is saying in arabic... 2+2= 4 you interpret it as 2+2= 4 in english whats wrong in it...
if the color of grass is green , i will interpret it as green... its another matter what make it green.. blue + yellow also make green...
but it does not mean i interpret the green color as mixture of blue and yellow
same what bkanwar brother is doing...
let me tell you one thing if i say to somebody i bring television in home...
and another choice is i bring a far view in my home..?thats whats tele -vision actually mean...
You just said I could be deceived by other people's interpretation. I'm also telling you that you are also using another person(s) interpretation. I'm not challenging what the verses are sayin according to that interpretation. But what applies to me also applies to you.
Maybe the interpreter did that on purpose to never be challenged. Actually if you read the Quran in Sunni or Shia interpretations you will have these same verses with the same translation. Meaning if you go for a Quranist interpretation according to them then you are being deceived.
I'm not very good at explaining my thoughts/point of view it's always been a weakness but I hope you got the message.
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You just said I could be deceived by other people's interpretation. I'm also telling you that you are also using another person(s) interpretation. I'm not challenging what the verses are sayin according to that interpretation. But what applies to me also applies to you.
Maybe the interpreter did that on purpose to never be challenged. Actually if you read the Quran in Sunni or Shia interpretations you will have these same verses with the same translation. Meaning if you go for a Quranist interpretation according to them then you are being deceived.
I'm not very good at explaining my thoughts/point of view it's always been a weakness but I hope you got the message.
i actually get what you are trying to say...
but , i send you a recommended translation (not interpretation)
the recommended translation must be go through language check before it get passed...let start from a example a simple word (haram)
quranist , sunni, shia, christian ... all of them translated as prohibted , and when put this word on other occassions of quran it gives the actual meanings... all of them translated as prohibted.. and the one who have commmand on arabic when he try to explain what haram is , english language offer that word ... thats called language check...now a person challange that translation ... and he bring his proofs...
he said its mean blessed instead of haram...
and when we filter it through quran we found it problemtic...
when we filter it through langauge barries , this word stuck again there...now you know thats how translation work... (interpretation or explaination) of Book only the author know...
even if you try to interpret the arabic into english u will use the same sources and tools what everybody is using ...
which will evetually give you similar translation what i posted ... you can also break the words called literal translation ...
you are saying i gave you another person interpretation?...(actually i gave you translation of arabic into english) not interpretation...
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the author selected that word there.. in english this word translated as interpretation...
for understanding this word the two events from quran i will highlight where author used this word.
the dreams interpretation...(in joseph story)
the events interpretation (in moses story)i know what i had in dream...( a blue car) its translation of my dream its interpretation only God knows, joseph was commanded in it too...