No other religion than Islam will be accepted.....
-
I'm no Muslim myself anymore. I'm not even a deist, I'm agnostic, but have a question to Muslims. How can you believe the Qur'an to be "divine" when it contains the following verse?
"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers"
According to this verse, there is no question whatsoever that the billions of non-Muslims on earth will go to an eternal Hell. How can you accept this to be a message from God? Can God be this evil, irrational and unjust in your opinion?
-
This has been dealt with in the forum many times.
The question is in English whether it is Islam, capital, name of a religion or whether it is islam, a common name, which in fact is the law of verything tht is. Everything submits to the One and the Oness, and anybody who attempts differently He or she won't get it because it is simply not possible. Submission to the divine will is what there is willingly or unwillingly.
Salaam
-
o
I think we all over looked that verse.
Dunno about the others but no quran for me any more.rotfl
"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers"
See it this way
And whoever seeks a religion other than submitting to peace, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers.385Awaiting the VIOLENT verses.
tick tock tick tock tick tock
https//media.giphy.com/media/10Gycda4iOM920/giphy.gif -
Sister reel, I am still laughing loud . Awaiting the assault and fearing for you .
Well you have done it now and thrown a stone,I have this vision of an army in tanks coming your way. Indeed be prepared for the "violent verses"!!!!Deist, you mean you were "Muslim" before?
Interesting,so was Noah,Abraham, Moses,Jesus,Mohammed,...GOD has not got anything else beside "Islam to His system"
If we are "believers" then we should not divide into different religions created by shayateen to divert from "GOD Alone"
Labelling is leading us astray and creating "idols"and strife.
Basically this is what GOD did/does throughout the humans existence
We did not send any messenger before you except with the inspiration "There is no god except Me; you shall serve/worship Me alone."
We have sent a messenger to every community, saying, "You shall serve/worship God, and avoid idolatry." Subsequently, some were guided by God, while others were committed to straying. Roam the earth and note the consequences for the rejectors.This is the only religion authorized by God, representing the one message that is contained in all of His scriptures and has been delivered by all of His messengers (319- Islam-)and
Say, "We believe in God, and in what was sent down to us, and in what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses and Jesus, and all the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are "Muslimeen"."Idolatry has been a pattern since the early generations. Humans have been shifting the focus of their belief away from" God alone"to some made up religion.
According to Qoran, both message and messenger perform the same sole duty of delivering the word of God. We support the prophets and the messengers by embracing "Islam" to GOD Alone.
Our responsibility is to be careful and not create our own"sect" by inventing another religion to the generations that will follow.
Redefining true"Islam" or rather highlighting the misconception, is our duty.
Hope you ponder and stay "Muslim to GOD Alone".
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
See it this way
And whoever seeks a religion other than submitting to peace, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers.385rotfl And why should I see it that way? No Muslim scholar has ever seen it that way in 1400 years, are you aware of that? Were /are they all ignorant or stupid according to you? Why should I believe your interpretation, please give me one reason, only one? In truth, you must even believe in "prophet" Muhammad if you want to go to heaven. Look at the below verse!
Chapter Al Fath, verse 13 says;
"And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze."
Are you still Muslim after reading this verse? There are many more verses I can show to support my argument. Have you ever read the Qur'an? o
Awaiting the VIOLENT verses.
tick tock tick tock tick tock
https//media.giphy.com/media/10Gycda4iOM920/giphy.gifWHY do you want or expect me to post violent verses? Do they annoy you? Do they make you doubt your faith? Are you able to handle criticism of the Quran?
-
I should also mention the very important fact that you can find a verse in the Qur'an to support any argument about practically anything. Why? Because the Qur'an is full of contradictions, it's not divine! There is not a single important issue in the Qur'an that is clear; everything is vague, ambiguous or contradictory. Why? Because the Qur'an was not sent by a Creator!
-
Deist, you are talking to the wrong "Muslims"!!!!
We are not those who practice a religion called Islam!
Just thought I remind you brother/sister.
As for Qoran, since you find it vague, ambiguous and contradictory abandon it and leave well alone,why pursue a problematic book. It does not make sense.
Other than that,you are welcome to discuss here with us other topics or another book that you find interesting.
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
Deist, you are talking to the wrong "Muslims"!!!!
We are not those who practice a religion called Islam!
Just thought I remind you brother/sister.
As for Qoran, since you find it vague, ambiguous and contradictory abandon it and leave well alone,why pursue a problematic book. It does not make sense.
Other than that,you are welcome to discuss here with us other topics or another book that you find interesting.
GOD bless you.
Peace.I gave you verses from the Quran, not hadith! The Quran says if you don't believe in Muhammed you will go to Hell. If the Quran was clear, there wouldn't be so many people here arguing over every verse and every issue, would they? Nothing is clear in the Quran! Well, that's not true, the verses in surah Ahzab regarding which women/wives Muhammed can BANG and in what order are very clear! But they are the only ones that are so clear!
-
rotfl And why should I see it that way? No Muslim scholar has ever seen it that way in 1400 years, are you aware of that? Were /are they all ignorant or stupid according to you?
Just because a view has been fixed for so many years by so many people does not mean it's true.
Why should I believe your interpretation, please give me one reason, only one?
Why should you not?
In truth, you must even believe in "prophet" Muhammad if you want to go to heaven. Look at the below verse!
Chapter Al Fath, verse 13 says;
"And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze."
Are you still Muslim after reading this verse? There are many more verses I can show to support my argument.
We don't reject the messenger that sent Qur'an.
Have you ever read the Qur'an? o
I don't know what we'd all be doing here after all this time if we haven't.
I should also mention the very important fact that you can find a verse in the Qur'an to support any argument about practically anything. Why? Because the Qur'an is full of contradictions, it's not divine! There is not a single important issue in the Qur'an that is clear; everything is vague, ambiguous or contradictory. Why? Because the Qur'an was not sent by a Creator!
Then why do you not want to consider the alternative interpretations that were provided above?
-
I'm no Muslim myself anymore. I'm not even a deist, I'm agnostic, but have a question to Muslims. How can you believe the Qur'an to be "divine" when it contains the following verse?
"And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will not be accepted from him, and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers"
According to this verse, there is no question whatsoever that the billions of non-Muslims on earth will go to an eternal Hell. How can you accept this to be a message from God? Can God be this evil, irrational and unjust in your opinion?
Peace Deist, every word in verse is translated except Islam,
translate Islam to your language equivalent and see how that works
for you. Also you can do the same with the word "religion".stay positive, Allah guides the believers peace
-
rotfl And why should I see it that way? No Muslim scholar has ever seen it that way in 1400 years, are you aware of that? Were /are they all ignorant or stupid according to you? Why should I believe your interpretation, please give me one reason, only one? In truth, you must even believe in "prophet" Muhammad if you want to go to heaven. Look at the below verse!
Chapter Al Fath, verse 13 says;
"And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze."
Are you still Muslim after reading this verse? ) There are many more verses I can show to support my argument. Have you ever read the Qur'an? o
WHY do you want or expect me to post violent verses? Do they annoy you? Do they make you doubt your faith? Are you able to handle criticism of the Quran?
I gave you verses from the Quran, not hadith! The Quran says if you don't believe in Muhammed you will go to Hell. If the Quran was clear, there wouldn't be so many people here arguing over every verse and every issue, would they? Nothing is clear in the Quran! Well, that's not true, the verses in surah Ahzab regarding which women/wives Muhammed can BANG and in what order are very clear! But they are the only ones that are so clear!
Salaam Deist, please, do redeem us from our error. You are the only knower of anything. As who speak about the Qur'an know nothing. And of course you have conscientously verify that everything you say is true like whenyou say
"No Muslim scholar has ever seen it that way in 1400 years, are you aware of that? Were /are they all ignorant or stupid according to you? Why should I believe your interpretation, please give me one reason, only one? In truth, you must even believe in "prophet" Muhammad if you want to go to heaven. Look at the below verse!"You must have verified tht indeed no scholar...
You show youself full of arrognce and rage. It enrages you tht we believe in something you are angry with. How can we, how dare we not agree with you a show submission (islam) to your so clever views.
You are the one who knows everything, we are idiots. Agree. So what are you doing here, redeeming us?
Salaam
-
peace Deist,
Capitalising "I" in "Islam" in the verse is not accurate, nor is it leaving it untranslated. See
http//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/more.htmIn any case... IF you are genuine, simply present us with your 5 strongest arguments against Quran. For example, you claim many contradictions so this should be easy.
Not any 5, the 5 strongest you can come up with after a lot of research, and ideally let us know how much time/research has gone into this top 5 of yours.They should be clear and ideally concise.
I'm sure we can take a look at them once you have.
-
brother diest..
are you not peacemaker(muslim) any more? -
Sister reel,you can come out now,I think he has gone now. ( You were right about what to expect)
Anyway so far no "violent verses" yet?Deist, you gave me a "translation" of the verse and your opinion.
The brothers and sisters here will help you with some issues and difficulties you seem to be having with Qoran ,if you sincerely wish to clarify them.
GOD bless you.
Peace. -
rotfl And why should I see it that way?No Muslim scholar has ever seen it that way in 1400 years, are you aware of that?
Have you been alive for all 1400 years? How many scholars you know? And why on earth should I care about what some scholar says when I came to earth alone and leave it again alone? My afterlife is in my hand. I have been given the gift of hearing and seeing which I use to study the Quran and get God's guidance.
Were /are they all ignorant or stupid according to you?
Like this one??
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xhrIUVQNpQ
What's one common thing among Dr. Ahmed Subhy Mansour, Edip, Al-Maliki, Chekannur Maulavi, Dr Sabbir and many others?
They all received death threats for saying what we believe. Sectarians made Chekannur Maulavi missing. Later it was found out that they killed him. Another guy was beheaded along with his son. They took away Al-Maliki's employment and passport. The rest had to flee. Somewhere in India, another was buried alive.Who will open his mouth if these are the consequence they have to face later?
Why should I believe your interpretation, please give me one reason, only one?
Why do you want to be convinced by me? Do you realize you have the right to reject and accept things by using your own intellect? Don't depend on me or any other person. Don't believe me. Let your intellect get to work. Quran is a manual. For the interpretations, we don't rely just upon its verses, but also what we find after applying them in our lives. You have the full freedom to do that.
In truth, you must even believe in "prophet" Muhammad if you want to go to heaven. Look at the below verse!
Chapter Al Fath, verse 13 says;
"And whoever has not believed in Allah and His Messenger - then indeed, We have prepared for the disbelievers a Blaze."
Are you still Muslim after reading this verse? There are many more verses I can show to support my argument.
Did we say we do not believe in the messenger?
Have you ever read the Qur'an?
http//gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Kim-Jong-Un-LaughingClappings.gif
WHY do you want or expect me to post violent verses? Do they annoy you? Do they make you doubt your faith? Are you able to handle criticism of the Quran?
Nope, it is just the same script we have been seeing for many years now. Even the sectarians wrote countless articles on it. And the thread isn't that new either.
Sister reel,you can come out now,I think he has gone now. ( You were right about what to expect)
Anyway so far no "violent verses" yet?Deist, you gave me a "translation" of the verse and your opinion.
The brothers and sisters here will help you with some issues and difficulties you seem to be having with Qoran ,if you sincerely wish to clarify them.
GOD bless you.
Peace.Oh, I was so scared. Now I know we are being haunted by running like zebra, recluse and some others!
