Ramadan
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Salaam,
So Ramadan is approaching. Can anyone more experienced give some tips. I am afraid I could have missed smth. First time fasting.
- What are the prohibitions?
- Is it intermittent?
Thanks.
Peace
Salam
It's about 7 months left until Ramadan. I don't know why you think it's soon, maybe just following the sectarians?
For fasting per Quran;
-No sexual intercourse, only at night.
-No eating, no drinking, during fasting.
-Fasting begins at dawn.
Here's a good example of dawn as described in verse 2187 (white thread black thread of dawn) https//cdn.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/videos/5070941/thumb/3.jpg
-Fasting ends when it's night (not dusk!)-The minimum is 10 days of fasting during the month of Ramadan (which begins in December).
Salam
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Ramadan is all about working against your body's needs and instincts.
You will not feed your body anything (food & drink)
You will not provide your body of any kind of pleasure. That also include sleeping all day long and being lazy.
You will not follow your negative self into manifesting either gossip, mockery, anger, jealousy, pride...And this everyday for about 30 days, from dawn until sunset.
From sunset until dawn, you have enough time to rest, and eat and drink. I'd advise drinking small portions of water (and juice) continuously starting from the moment your fast breaks i.e sunset until whenever you are willing to sleep.
You should sleep early because you are physically tired, and because you should probably wake up slightly before dawn to have a final meal and drink. But this one depends on the person, you can make the final preparations slightly before dawn or way before. Best thing to do is to sleep early and wake up early, make your final preparations and start your day.
This by the way, might not perfectly match what quranists believe.
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Salam
It's about 7 months left until Ramadan. I don't know why you think it's soon, maybe just following the sectarians?
For fasting per Quran;
-No sexual intercourse, only at night.
-No eating, no drinking, during fasting.
-Fasting begins at dawn.
Here's a good example of dawn as described in verse 2187 (white thread black thread of dawn) https//cdn.shutterstock.com/shutterstock/videos/5070941/thumb/3.jpg
-Fasting ends when it's night (not dusk!)-The minimum is 10 days of fasting during the month of Ramadan (which begins in December).
Salam
-Where did you get 10 days?
-How do you know it is in December?
-Night is the period between sunset and sunrise. -
-Where did you get 10 days?
-How do you know it is in December?
-Night is the period between sunset and sunrise.Read this for answers
https//free-minds.org/night-decreeI don't know if it has been corrected or not.
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Ramadan is all about working against your body's needs and instincts.
You will not feed your body anything (food & drink)
You will not provide your body of any kind of pleasure. That also include sleeping all day long and being lazy.
You will not follow your negative self into manifesting either gossip, mockery, anger, jealousy, pride...And this everyday for about 30 days, from dawn until sunset.
From sunset until dawn, you have enough time to rest, and eat and drink. I'd advise drinking small portions of water (and juice) continuously starting from the moment your fast breaks i.e sunset until whenever you are willing to sleep.
You should sleep early because you are physically tired, and because you should probably wake up slightly before dawn to have a final meal and drink. But this one depends on the person, you can make the final preparations slightly before dawn or way before. Best thing to do is to sleep early and wake up early, make your final preparations and start your day.
This by the way, might not perfectly match what quranists believe.
What about a nigh where you have to be awake. I guess it is in the hadith?
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What about a nigh where you have to be awake. I guess it is in the hadith?
Yes probably, never read about this in Quran.
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Read this for answers
https//free-minds.org/night-decreeI don't know if it has been corrected or not.
Hmm, I would agree with December.
But what if it is not only during ramadan angels and spirit descend to earth?Also, not 22 nd because of Jesus' conceivement. Rather, the fasting occurs on the first new moon of December for one month. In other words
Jesus was conceived in the first new moon of December which the happens to be 22nd according to our calendar.
Also, all prophets received the message on that night (quran doesn't mention this though). This is simple deduction.Perhaps, angels came to Lut in the first new moon of December and moses split the sea on the first new moon of December. Which all are not necessarily on 22nd -25th. But this is also deduction. Nothing in the Quran which tells us that these happened in Ramadan. Though it is logical.
But if it is the night of power then such unsual events could have happened. Plus angels coming down. Yet only IF angels and spirit comes down only in Ramadan.I am still sceptical about 10 days. According to what? Quran constantly mentions month.
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Hmm, I would agree with December.
But what if it is not only during ramadan angels and spirit descend to earth?Also, not 22 nd because of Jesus' conceivement. Rather, the fasting occurs on the first new moon of December for one month. In other words
Jesus was conceived in the first new moon of December which the happens to be 22nd according to our calendar.
Also, all prophets received the message on that night (quran doesn't mention this though). This is simple deduction.Perhaps, angels came to Lut in the first new moon of December and moses split the sea on the first new moon of December. Which all are not necessarily on 22nd -25th. But this is also deduction. Nothing in the Quran which tells us that these happened in Ramadan. Though it is logical.
But if it is the night of power then such unsual events could have happened. Plus angels coming down. Yet only IF angels and spirit comes down only in Ramadan.I am still sceptical about 10 days. According to what? Quran constantly mentions month.
I actually can't find it. I need to recheck, I might have mixed up with something else. Thanks for the heads up
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Also, do you think it is consecutive one month or intermittent?
How do you mean?
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I mean every night or certain nights?
Also how do you do it if it is cloudy?
People back then did not have technology to identify the new moon not even taling about new moon during cloudy weather.No you don't need to stay awake through the nights...this is probably some hadith to stay awake.
Regarding the cloud and such, I don't really know. If it's minimum 10 days fasting, then they wouldn't be missing anything - but I can't find the verse for this anymore.
It's not new moon, the month begins with waxing crescent which is usually 1 day after new moon. So this year's Ramadhan begins around 19th December for northern hemisphere.
Also, perhaps they knew during cloudy weather because new moon gives no illumination, so they would know the month begins next day with the waxing crescent which illuminates through the clouds or at least lights it up. I got to try this some time.
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No you don't need to stay awake through the nights...this is probably some hadith to stay awake.
Regarding the cloud and such, I don't really know. If it's minimum 10 days fasting, then they wouldn't be missing anything - but I can't find the verse for this anymore.
It's not new moon, the month begins with waxing crescent which is usually 1 day after new moon. So this year's Ramadhan begins around 19th December for northern hemisphere.
Also, perhaps they knew during cloudy weather because new moon gives no illumination, so they would know the month begins next day with the waxing crescent which illuminates through the clouds or at least lights it up. I got to try this some time.
But doesn't verse 2187-189 imply it is a new moon?
So what about the southern hemisphere? -
But doesn't verse 2187-189 imply it is a new moon?
So what about the southern hemisphere?3639
And the moon We have measured it to appear in stages, until it
returns like an old palm sheath.Southern Hemisphere timing is different, I think. It depends on the moon phases and the season. TH'hey have summer when we have winter D
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Salamu Alaykum Farati,
Don't let people get you confused. Ramadan is very clear, 30 days of fasting, dawn to dusk starting on Friday night 5/26 where I live insha'Allah this year of 2017. Fast with all of us! Do not be afraid. Once you fast a number of times you will see why this challenge is so good for all of us. Fasting will decrease the speed of your metabolism, which will allow you to eat less and use what you eat more efficiently throughout the year. This does not even begin to mention the spiritual effects.
I highly recommend you complete Ramadan as stated in the Qur'an
"Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (Between right and wrong). So every one of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spend it in fasting, but if any one is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period (Should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period, and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful...Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are your garments and ye are their garments. Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but Heturned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them, and seek what Allah Hath ordained for you, and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears; but do not associate with your wives while ye are in retreat in the mosques. Those are Limits (set by) Allah Approach not nigh thereto. Thus doth Allah make clear His Signs to men that they may learn self-restraint." 2185, 2187
Go check out some of my previous posts on Ramadan here, and I have laid out some excellent tips there about foods to eat, drinking water, sleep, etc. Ramadan is a blessed month and I wish you the best in your fasting, however you may interpret it.
Best regards and Salaam,
Clash.
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Salamu Alaykum Farati,
Don't let people get you confused. Ramadan is very clear, 30 days of fasting, dawn to dusk starting on Friday night 5/26 where I live insha'Allah this year of 2017. Fast with all of us! Do not be afraid. Once you fast a number of times you will see why this challenge is so good for all of us. Fasting will decrease the speed of your metabolism, which will allow you to eat less and use what you eat more efficiently throughout the year. This does not even begin to mention the spiritual effects.
I highly recommend you complete Ramadan as stated in the Qur'an
"Ramadhan is the (month) in which was sent down the Qur'an, as a guide to mankind, also clear (Signs) for guidance and judgment (Between right and wrong). So every one of you who is present (at his home) during that month should spend it in fasting, but if any one is ill, or on a journey, the prescribed period (Should be made up) by days later. Allah intends every facility for you; He does not want to put to difficulties. (He wants you) to complete the prescribed period, and to glorify Him in that He has guided you; and perchance ye shall be grateful...Permitted to you, on the night of the fasts, is the approach to your wives. They are your garments and ye are their garments. Allah knoweth what ye used to do secretly among yourselves; but Heturned to you and forgave you; so now associate with them, and seek what Allah Hath ordained for you, and eat and drink, until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread; then complete your fast Till the night appears; but do not associate with your wives while ye are in retreat in the mosques. Those are Limits (set by) Allah Approach not nigh thereto. Thus doth Allah make clear His Signs to men that they may learn self-restraint." 2185, 2187
Go check out some of my previous posts on Ramadan here, and I have laid out some excellent tips there about foods to eat, drinking water, sleep, etc. Ramadan is a blessed month and I wish you the best in your fasting, however you may interpret it.
Best regards and Salaam,
Clash.
Salam,
Why do you think Ramadhan begins 26th May?
This is a date set by the sectarians...They believe the 9th lunar month of each year is the month of Ramadhan and this isn't found in Quran. Apart from that, the blessed night (Laylat Qadr) changes in sectarianism because they only follow a lunar calender and not lunar-solar calender. So in their own logic, Jesus was conceived many times in different days because the blessed night is in the month of Ramadhan, and according to sectarians Ramadhan changes a few days each year. According to their logic, Jesus was conceived in winter, in summer, in autumn, in spring. It's "the blessed night" and not "blessed nights".
Makes no sense.Salam
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Salam,
Why do you think Ramadhan begins 26th May?
This is a date set by the sectarians...They believe the 9th lunar month of each year is the month of Ramadhan and this isn't found in Quran. Apart from that, the blessed night (Laylat Qadr) changes in sectarianism because they only follow a lunar calender and not lunar-solar calender. So in their own logic, Jesus was conceived many times in different days because the blessed night is in the month of Ramadhan, and according to sectarians Ramadhan changes a few days each year. According to their logic, Jesus was conceived in winter, in summer, in autumn, in spring. It's "the blessed night" and not "blessed nights".
Makes no sense.Salam
But is it really about identifying the month through a moon? Let's say winter solstice is the night of power. But it jus happens that the crescent moon is after the 25th. Does ot mean that Ramadan starts after night of decree?
Peace
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Ramadan is very clear, 30 days of fasting, dawn to dusk starting on Friday night 5/26 where I live insha'Allah this year of 2017.
30 days is simply impossible.
Because Allah orders
whoever among you witnesses the shahr
to fast it - ...That is, they will first witness the shahr
and only after that they will fast it.This year
May 25 is the day when the moon is dark,
so nobody can witness it on May 25.They will witness it in the evening of May 26.
But...
May 26 has already passed without fasting when they witness the ramadhan crescent in the evening.
Or else, they will fast the shahr before they witness it against Allah's order.