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Who is surah fil talking about/hadith timeline

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    Kamzo19
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    Peace,

    Surah al-Fil is not about stones of baked clay. It is about another kind of punishment that happened to other people and that is about to happen again in the future.

    Kamzo

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      Aladin
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      Surah al-Fil is not about stones of baked clay.

      What is it about then?

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        Noon_waalqalami
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        All nouns are khal (state, condition...). If somebody/something has some, it can be called by that noun.

        Tayr is not a bird. Check gender of verbs...

        You also wrote in distinct or separate companies

        You can't learn from lexicons. Use el-Qalem if you're insan...

        Again don't be cryptic clarify your thoughts and fill in ? so people know what it is you're talking about?

        1051 did not see (i.e. envision) how dealth lord your with companions the ?
        1052 did not maketh plan theirs in amiss
        1053 and sends upon them a ? ?
        1054 hurl them with stone from baked clay
        1055 so made them like husk eaten

        Surah al-Fil is not about stones of baked clay. It is about another kind of punishment that happened to other people and that is about to happen again in the future.

        Peace Kamzo -- same as above please clarify; use verses and explain which word/s you're translating as what?

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          Aladin
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          Noon, don't get me wrong please, but if you're learning from lexicons it doesn't matter what I'll tell you about this or anything else. I hope, if you're insan, that you'll learn a single word from the Qur'an from our Rabb by El-Qalem, and then you'll learn more and more...

          Since you asked twice, I'll tell you that ebabil is "babylonian". Lexicons will tell you that ba-ba-lam cannot be root and there's no roots with same harf as 1st and 2nd, but this is one of words, same root as word babil. If you think you can ask why there's no root of it at http//corpus.quran.com/wordmorphology.jsp?location=(210221).

          Elif with hemze was added as negation. If you add elif-hemze to any root you'll get a new root with negative meaning. The reason for this in word ebabil is because those "tayr" are not from Babylon, but they're babylonian since that's direction where they came from (info for us). They were visiting Ibrahim a.s. prior to that.

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            Kamzo19
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            Does any of you speak or read French ?

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              Noon_waalqalami
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              Noon, don't get me wrong please

              Aladin, not getting you wrong only asked simple question; ok we'll make even simpler -- please fill in the ?

              1051 did not see (i.e. envision) how dealth lord your with companions the ?

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                Aladin
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                I told you what you can do, but, as you wish...

                You probably think that this is a single word from its root, but you're wrong. If you tried to think about the Qur'an you could learn. Not your fault, it's what we're doing most of our lives - making mistakes.

                Word "fulaan" used in 2528 is from the same root. But, it's not all... as I already wrote somewhere on this forum if you add elif+hemze to any root you'll get a new root with negative meaning.

                The other root is hemze+fa-lam and it was used only four times in ayets 677-79 in a story which I haven't found a good explanation about Ibrahim a.s. We should follow millet of Ibrahim a.s. and we know so little about him, sad.

                So, whatever "feel" and "fulaan" mean, words "efele", "efelet" and "aafiloon" should have negative meaning of their root.

                Meaning of fa-lam is a person who's magnifying himself to the level of comparing himself with Allah.

                Meaning of hamze-fa-lam is something which others making as fa-lam (ie. magnifying to the level of comparing it with Allah).

                So, "ashabul-feel" are people of Lut a.s. who thought that they're as Allah (or maybe higher, greater), and in the story of Ibrahim a.s. his people took his words as they have to "worship" objects they thought he was talking about (but he was talking about Allah).

                "Fulaan" is sheytan. "Aan" at the end of that word describes his permanent state.


                Btw, more important word for you should be "ebabeel", as I told you, because you can learn much more from it.

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                  Noon_waalqalami
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                  Word "fulaan" used in 2528 is from the same root. But, it's not all... as I already wrote somewhere on this forum if you add elif+hemze to any root you'll get a new root with negative meaning.

                  The other root is hemze+fa-lam and it was used only four times in ayets 677-79 in a story which I haven't found a good explanation about Ibrahim a.s. We should follow millet of Ibrahim a.s. and we know so little about him, sad.

                  So, whatever "feel" and "fulaan" mean, words "efele", "efelet" and "aafiloon" should have negative meaning of their root.

                  "to any root" really?

                  what's meaning and negative meaning of these ever hear of borrowed words?

                  375 bidinarin -- root dal nun ra
                  1220 dirhams -- root dal ra ha mim

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                    Aladin
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                    Was it used in the Qur'an?

                    You can make a sequence of english letters as "kjsdhfkasfaljjlalh", but that won't be a word. You can also put a few huroof but you won't get meaning with some sequencies.

                    I'm not talking about arabic lughat nor anything outside the Qur'an. It would be better if you can check what I said yourself and try to think about the Qur'an and its lisan only. Don't be a slave of Lane and others, unchain yourself.

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                      Noon_waalqalami
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                      Was it used in the Qur'an?

                      yes already gave you verses?

                      375 bidnrin

                      1220 dirhams

                      Don't be a slave of Lane and others, unchain yourself.

                      it was you who brought up different roots and negation theory not me.

                      perhaps an easier one to test your "all roots negative meaning" theory...

                      please provide meaning kalala (412/4176) root kf lm lm and negative?

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