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What happens to transsexuals?

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    A_Submitter
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    http//www.newhealthadvisor.com/Hermaphrodite-Human-Pictures.html
    https//www.britannica.com/science/hermaphroditism

    who are these people?

    i myself witness lot of these people who have breast like females and genitile organs like male

    why they exist ? what is the solution for them?

    Breasts don't define a female. There are males with testicle cancer, and they develop breasts. Others without cancer can develop breasts. It's called gynecomastia.

    The solution is to look to the reproductive organ as they define whether one is a male or female. If an intersex has ovaries, then she is a female. If an intersex has sperm, then he's a male.
    I don't know about other deformities...

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      imrankhawaja
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      It's called gynecomastia.

      no its called intersex

      https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

      study for more in depth and their kinds are mention there too..

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        HP_TECH
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        While it sounds revolting to you, that's the least of their problems.

        No Cerb, that is the worst of their problems, Hell is lying in wait for the disbelievers.
        Submitter and the sincere servants with I denounce their ACTIONS and dissociate ourselves from them and what they do.

        There is no middle ground, what happened to Lut's wife?

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          no its called intersex

          https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex

          study for more in depth and their kinds are mention there too..

          I was giving example that breasts can develop in men later in life to say that breasts doesn't define what a female is, but the reproductive organ does. Same for men, their gender won't be redefined if they have gynecomastia.
          When males develop breasts, it's called gynecomastia.

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            While it sounds revolting to you, that's the least of their problems.

            I don't care about them, they are rejecters anyway.
            It's the more than 50% of forum members who support and advocate for LGBT.

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              Cerberus
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              I agree there are only two genders, even science agrees on that. People who call themselves 'transsexuals' are usually people who have a sex chromosome abnormality, aka a sexual disorder. And so, they should be viewed as people with a condition. Usually a direct consequence from this condition is being unable to procreate.

              There is nothing that proves that people with sex chromosome abnormalities tend to be homosexuals because of that. So atleast don't confuse both of them.

              As for homosexuality, and specifically having or experiencing sexual urges toward same-sex, that is same as having sexual urges towards the opposite sex, both are to be surpassed. Both are harmful, and so it depends on the person whether he/she wants to take that sacrifice.

              As for having sexual intercourses with same-sex, it is a pointless thing to do, void of any sense, because there is a sense in using our sexual organs, and that is to procreate, 'a sacrifice for the next generation'. So, sexual intercourses between same-sex are simply non-sense, an "immorality". But so is sodomy, and so is any misuse of sexual organs, even by heterosexuals.

              The only issue is that sexuality is wrongly given a lot of weight in people's life, be it someone who desires the opposite sex (hetero) or someone who desires the same-sex (homo).

              As for LGBTQ the movement, there is no need to pay any attention to it because it's just Tumblr users leaving their rooms.

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                I agree there are only two genders, even science agrees on that. People who call themselves 'transsexuals' are usually people who have a sex chromosome abnormality, aka a sexual disorder. And so, they should be viewed as people with a condition. Usually a direct consequence from this condition is being unable to procreate.

                There is nothing that proves that people with sex chromosome abnormalities tend to be homosexuals because of that. So atleast don't confuse both of them.

                As for homosexuality, and specifically having or experiencing sexual urges toward same-sex, that is same as having sexual urges towards the opposite sex, both are to be surpassed. Both are harmful, and so it depends on the person whether he/she wants to take that sacrifice.

                As for having sexual intercourses with same-sex, it is a pointless thing to do, void of any sense, because there is a sense in using our sexual organs, and that is to procreate, 'a sacrifice for the next generation'. So, sexual intercourses between same-sex are simply non-sense, an "immorality". But so is sodomy, and so is any misuse of sexual organs, even by heterosexuals.

                The only issue is that sexuality is wrongly given a lot of weight in people's life, be it someone who desires the opposite sex (hetero) or someone who desires the same-sex (homo).

                As for LGBTQ the movement, there is no need to pay any attention to it because it's just Tumblr users leaving their rooms.

                Cerb that last sentence made my night rotfl

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                  I think it really boils down to what you perceive heaven to be, and how close it is implemented to the scale and quality of life we have in this existence. Most religions tend to lean towards the afterlife being the "superior" life, one that either lasts significantly longer or permanent. Many interpretations of a heaven is the freedom to do what one chooses with little boundaries, with some going as far as saying you would be unable to break a soul of another person, and hence would never be able to commit acts such as 'murder'. If the heaven a soul ends up in has features of a mouldable form by the soul, then presumably a transgender person who choose what everyone else would do whatever is comfortable.

                  This presumably means that people who weren't transgender in this life, may well have the option of doing so in the next without discrimination.

                  I wondered whether to sift into the other conversations in this topic, but decided to leave it at that.

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                    I thinkit really boils down to what you perceive heaven to be, and how close it is implemented to the scale and quality of life we have in this existence. Most religions tend to lean towards the afterlife being the "superior" life, one that either lasts significantly longer or permanent. Many interpretations of a heaven is the freedom to do what one chooses with little boundaries, with some going as far as saying you would be unable to break a soul of another person, and hence would never be able to commit acts such as 'murder'. If the heaven a soul ends up in has features of a mouldable form by the soul, then presumably a transgender person who choose what everyone else would do whatever is comfortable.

                    This presumably means that people who weren't transgender in this life, may well have the option of doing so in the next without discrimination.

                    I wondered whether to sift into the other conversations in this topic, but decided to leave it at that.

                    Emphasis on "I think". You are just guessing. You are giving mention to perspectives that are unquranic. As long as you move in such direction you are merely conjecturing.
                    Follow what Allah has revealed not your assumptions.

                    Give proof for what you speak of or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      sometimes i see people with disability are born..

                      like blind, deaf, dumb , abnormal mind..

                      some of them use brain to think half of the glass is empty some of them think no half glass is full..

                      but in case of abnormal kids.. like deaf blind, dumb how should they b treated?
                      why 99% people born as normal and only 1% is born as disabilites?
                      is the creation of God is not perfect?
                      is God is not just so that he could have make all 100 % as normal...

                      same goes with the kind i am talking about.. you guys from start did not really understand whats am on about?
                      did i say anything about (gay lesbian)? if no then see what i telling..

                      i m telling a gender who have a disability and they are not hidden now..

                      different cultures have different names for them

                      "hejra" in urdu
                      "kinner" in hindi
                      "khusra" in punjabi

                      these are people who are considered separate from whole society and they treated like shit, they are not allowed to go on school becoz if they go to boys place they will get bullied if they go to girls place they will not allowed to do things ?

                      they are not allowed to do jobs
                      they are not allowed to ask a share in property.

                      the only thing left for them is to join lot of other like them who are engagged in dancing and singing (what a shame and zulum on them) how unfair..

                      if you guys think its a disability, i have no issue , my issue is,
                      is it ok to throw out the disable from your house and society?

                      as i stated earlier God never say he create only two sex..

                      thats what we see in normal conditions that animals, humans and plants have male and female sexes with normal functions

                      but we also see lot of abnormalities in creation of God that occurs from time to time..

                      like twins
                      born as deaf, dumb
                      born as blind
                      born as male with female harmones(intersex)
                      born as female with male harmones(intersex)
                      born with two heads

                      even in plants they are some unisex species..
                      and what about "Earthworm" having both male and female reproductive organs?

                      if they exist God knows about them and God never wanted us to hate somebody just becoz he/she is disable?

                      God bless you all

                      NOTE sometimes God give message in different shapes , i hope nobody from you want their kid born as the disability of mix gender.. at that time i dnt feel you have anything to do against them or God? but one thing you will say definately ..
                      they exist and they should treated same as other human beings..

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                        I was giving example that breasts can develop in men later in life to say that breasts doesn't define what a female is, but the reproductive organ does. Same for men, their gender won't be redefined if they have gynecomastia.
                        When males develop breasts, it's called gynecomastia.

                        whatever it called , it doesnt matter .. (you can also say half man half women) or upper part is the part like women lower part is a part like man..

                        brother if you are a medical student then you better know what i m on about..

                        why the breast did not comes up in all of the males ?
                        why this change only comes to the ones who are different in thinking as well physical change compared to normal ?
                        what make them think they are not male/females ? (a disability of mind or body)

                        RED a poor example becoz obviously breast define a women..
                        same like in animals cow/goat has udder from which you get milk... lol classified as chest/breat

                        breast is the most attractive thing in women body as well as very important organ
                        becoz from same breast you get milk for baby..

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                          Emphasis on "I think". You are just guessing. You are giving mention to perspectives that are unquranic. As long as you move in such direction you are merely conjecturing.
                          Follow what Allah has revealed not your assumptions.

                          Give proof for what you speak of or do you say about Allah that which you do not know?

                          Yes, I'm guessing because I'm not dead yet.

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                            HP_TECH
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                            Yes, I'm guessing because I'm not dead yet.

                            There is no evidence in Quran for almost everything you said. You have no citations.
                            I mean you were straight up talking out of your rear man.

                            One does not have to be dead to have knowledge of The Book and provide evidence from it for their claims.

                            Peace

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