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All (believers) plz attempt this question its IMPORTANT

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    imrankhawaja
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    peace all

    the question imposed by hadith followers when they want prove their point on all the hadith and the events of hadits contained in a book.

    while asking them about the unscientific event when a team of monkey stone to death the couple who was engagged in that act he replied

    the event of raven(bird) dig a grave and burried other bird there its also unscientific

    so muslims dnt have any objection of accepting the event of quran while they reject all others events contained in hadith books why ?

    plz attempt this questions its very important to understand

    God bless you all

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      Noon_waalqalami
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      the event of raven(bird) dig a grave and burried other bird there its also unscientific

      so muslims dnt have any objection of accepting the event of quran while they reject all others events contained in hadith books why ?

      peace -- what other bird; what about "a raven" digging?

      https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=F559OuCxzB0

      531 so raise the god raven of searched in the land to show him how concealed/buried corpse brother his said O woe to me indeed unable that I being similitude this the raven so conceals/buries corpse brother mine so became from/among the regretful

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        reel
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        We grew up hearing that story. But according the verse, the raven isn't burying a corpse. It is the hadither adding innovation that the bird was out to bury another of his kind.

        In reality, the brother just is seeing the raven and "thinking" this is how he can bury his brother.Send him this video of crows digging dirt https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtDgXUAn2_c

        We have indeed learned and invented many things from the animal kingdom
        http//mentalfloss.com/article/22702/10-technologies-we-stole-animal-kingdom

        Next in line, using of spider webs to make uniform of soldiers.

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          imrankhawaja
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          peace reel and noon

          thank you so much for attempting that question

          actually what i want to point out is this event a scientific one?

          before going into it i would like to share my answer too
          if we see the verse it appears to me its a kind of miracle/marvel of God
          "Allah showed him" so when Allah want to do things then even accepting the most unscientific thing is not a problem as we know he is over all things competant
          like the hudhud talking with solomon
          ant communication
          moving of throne from one location to another etc

          although i give my reasonings
          but i want the other memebers to show their views who dnt beleive in miracles of God

          becoz hadith people claim when something unscientific comes in quran you guys say it as miracle so why rejecting the miracles what described in hadith?

          let me explain what was the event of hadith
          it was the punishment of adultury commited by a couple in monkeys and they were stonning them to death

          hope you guys got it now

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            peace reel and noon

            thank you so much for attempting that question

            actually what i want to point out is this event a scientific one?

            before going into it i would like to share my answer too
            if we see the verse it appears to me its a kind of miracle/marvel of God
            "Allah showed him" so when Allah want to do things then even accepting the most unscientific thing is not a problem as we know he is over all things competant
            like the hudhud talking with solomon
            ant communication
            moving of throne from one location to another etc

            although i give my reasonings
            but i want the other memebers to show their views who dnt beleive in miracles of God

            becoz hadith people claim when something unscientific comes in quran you guys say it as miracle so why rejecting the miracles what described in hadith?

            let me explain what was the event of hadith
            it was the punishment of adultury commited by a couple in monkeys and they were stonning them to death

            hope you guys got it now

            Miracles certainly happen, but some of the things we were told in the sects about the stories of the Prophets are not present in the Quran. So I am now trying my best to correct my understanding. What I realize is that there is a separation between miracle and science in the Book. Another would be the imagination of the personalities God mentioned in it.

            Talking hoopoe is no miracle though since certain birds can be taught that. Plus one specific group of hoopoes is completely wiped out. It seems Prophet Solomon's one was working as some sort of spy! It is a reality present today http//www.thedailybeast.com/hamas-arrests-israeli-spy-dolphin

            The ant also does not speak to Solomon.

            becoz hadith people claim when something unscientific comes in quran you guys say it as miracle so why rejecting the miracles what described in hadith?

            let me explain what was the event of hadith
            it was the punishment of adultury commited by a couple in monkeys and they were stonning them to death

            hope you guys got it now

            Oh that hadith, lol. I thought scholars' took out another explanation from their hats for it

            This is not a had?th of the Prophet (peace be upon him). It is not even something that Amr claims he told to the Prophet (peace be upon him). It is just Amr?s personal account of some things `Amr b. Maym?n saw some animals doing. It is merely his interpretation that those monkeys were stoning the other one as a punishment for adultery. There is no way that he could have known their true motives. There is no Islamic teaching to be gleaned from this account. Ibn Hajar writes inFath al-B?r?
            It is not necessary that an event that looks like adultery and stoning was really a case of adultery and capital punishment. He merely described it that way because it looked like these things. It does not mean that legal accountability was being applied to animals. http//en.islamtoday.net/node/741

            The problem is not science of this hadith, but the fact that they received their stoning sunnah from the monkeys whose nemesis was the stoning verse eating goat.

            Tell him not to compare God with Bukharians. There is a huge difference between the two.

            What are some scientific things hadith said which came true?

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