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    reel
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    I am not sure why only when it comes to free-minds, the new Quran aloners start changing the definition of online forum.

    I have come across some complaints from different newbies and silent readers about how the discussions over here get them confused about the verses. They don't know who to believe. All this people have some things in common

    1. They don't attempt to read and use the Quranic guidance in their lives.
    2. They don't trust their own thoughts.
    3. They are here to follow the oldest members' thoughts blindly.
    4. They are looking for every single answer on this forum. In fact they are desperate for it.
    5. They either feel disgusted or surprised to see threads talking about corruption of Quran. One left Islam because of that. Another said they can't tolerate the avant garde discussions which challenge their traditional beliefs.
    6. They are looking to worship certain members.
    7. They have no clue about how to approach the Book.

    It is now getting tiring for me to explain the whole freedom of speech rule and how they need to have faith in their thoughts.

    Do you think a disclaimer or anything else should be on the top so that they don't start treating the forum like a tafseer corner?

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      Neptin
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      Yes. Some people don't seem to get it. No one source can boast of most accurate interpretation of all Quranic verses.

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        good_logic
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        Peace reel,All.

        GOD in His wisdom sent a message to every individual,all humans.
        How can anyone explain to anyone else a message to them? Or has GOD sent this message to only certain individuals to explain it to the rest of us?
        What is it with us that GOD is never enough for His creation?

        People,especially those greedy for being elevated to high position(Physical and other),greedy to lord it over others,greedy to monopolise/make a business out of GOD s message insist that their explanation/religion is the truth.

        We have taken what is a personal relationship between the individual and GOD the Creator and made it into religions,each claiming and inventing lies to "clothe" the human by their doctrines and made up rules!!!!

        There is a difference between society and its rules and how it is governed and the individual and His Creator s deen.
        GOD Alone is the judge of His deen,GOD Alone is the teacher of His deen,GOD Alone is the authority of His deen. Others are only responsible for their own relationship with their creator not your "wakeels".

        GOD gave each individual the choice whether to accept His deen or leave it. Whoever wants can believe and whoever wants can disbelieve. GOD will judge among the humans regarding His deen . No one else can force this deen on anyone.

        Who has been given the task of explaining/ enforcing GOD s deen? Come forward if you claim this?
        The messengers role was to deliver to all of us the message.

        So how can anyone expect others to guide them?
        Your own effort is required.
        Your own responsibility.
        Do it yourself. You have a wealth of information out there,check it out. Do the work . Best of luck to all.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace.

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          reel
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          Yes. Some people don't seem to get it. No one source can boast of most accurate interpretation of all Quranic verses.

          Peace reel,All.

          GOD in His wisdom sent a message to every individual,all humans.
          How can anyone explain to anyone else a message to them? Or has GOD sent this message to only certain individuals to explain it to the rest of us?

          I think the problem comes from the sects. You know when we were in sunnism we were told everything was nicely figured out about the religion. This misconception should not rule God aloners.

          What is it with us that GOD is never enough for His creation?

          People,especially those greedy for being elevated to high position(Physical and other),greedy to lord it over others,greedy to monopolise/make a business out of GOD s message insist that their explanation/religion is the truth.

          We have taken what is a personal relationship between the individual and GOD the Creator and made it into religions,each claiming and inventing lies to "clothe" the human by their doctrines and made up rules!!!!

          There is a difference between society and its rules and how it is governed and the individual and His Creator s deen.
          GOD Alone is the judge of His deen,GOD Alone is the teacher of His deen,GOD Alone is the authority of His deen. Others are only responsible for their own relationship with their creator not your "wakeels".

          I think we are terrible at communicating with the new people on how to reach out to God. Those who have enthusiasm, patience and can dare to feel and think don't always need helping hands of humans. Others do esp those are in their early 20s.

          Who has been given the task of explaining/ enforcing GOD s deen? Come forward if you claim this?
          The messengers role was to deliver to all of us the message.

          So how can anyone expect others to guide them?
          Your own effort is required.
          Your own responsibility.
          Do it yourself. You have a wealth of information out there,check it out. Do the work . Best of luck to all.
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

          The people in their 20s I guess need some tips. That is the time when we are too rebellious and to some extent more like babies. If you just notice a few who came to this forum from that specific age group spent most of their time criticizing the sects. They never got a chance to heal their hearts. I did see some users telling them to loosen up. But they didn't have the tool through which they could do it. They read some weird threads which we debunked, but in other threads. Eventually, they became atheist and now are spreading the idea that we deceive.

          As I said earlier in other places, being atheist from sunnism is similar to becoming orthodox/violent sunni who spreads fox news like rumors. That's why, it would be nice to have some sort of disclaimer. It would be very wrong to make Quran followers who already are threatened by sects to be victims of other groups also. Forum is a forum. Visitors need to understand that.

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            A_Submitter
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            Salam,

            I don't understand, what will be the message in the article?

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              reel
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              Salam,

              I don't understand, what will be the message in the article?

              A disclaimer may work?

              That avatar of yours makes me hungry every time.

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                Cerberus
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                The people in their 20s I guess need some tips. That is the time when we are too rebellious and to some extent more like babies. If you just notice a few who came to this forum from that specific age group spent most of their time criticizing the sects. They never got a chance to heal their hearts. I did see some users telling them to loosen up. But they didn't have the tool through which they could do it. They read some weird threads which we debunked, but in other threads. Eventually, they became atheist and now are spreading the idea that we deceive.

                Do you have someone in mind ? We can always go back and see the threads the person posted and what kind of response it got. Maybe then we can start pointing fingers.
                But really, If that person became an atheist, it's because he/she wished for life and went that route, at that point there is no need of a God. But God doesn't guide those who don't seek God too. So nothing extraordinary.

                I'd personaly be more worried (not really) about people in their late 20s, 30, 40+ because they have lived longer while time doesn't fix things up it only make them move on and forget, so if one hasn't worked on purifying him/herself those things will never go away. And at that age, people get married and they have a career and everything is great (or totally chaotic) and possibly have children too. So I wonder if they'll find time to stop and reflect on themselves and their sins that they long considered normal ?

                What better age to look into oneself than your early 20s

                • a guy in his early 20s ignore
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                  A disclaimer may work?

                  That avatar of yours makes me hungry every time.

                  Makes me too D

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