Pedophile in Quran
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The Qur'an has stipulated a waiting period which women must observe before they can remarry. This waiting period must be observed after they are divorced, or if their husbands have died. In the Qur'an, this is called Iddah or Iddat (‎. However, there is one exception to this requirement in Qur'an 3349
Transliteration Ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo itha nakahtumu almuminati thumma tallaqtumoohunna min qabli an tamassoohunna fama lakum AAalayhinna min AAiddatin taAAtaddoonaha famattiAAoohunna wasarrihoohunna sarahan jameelan
Yusuf Ali O ye who believe! If ye wed believing women and divorce them before ye have touched them, then there is no period that ye should reckon. But content them and release them handsomely.
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 3349
From the verse above it is understood that Iddah (stipulated waiting period) is required if sexual contact has occurred within the marriage. If a woman is not touched by her husband, she should not have to observe any waiting period at all.
After the mention of women who have not had their marriage consummated, the Qur'an goes further - discussing the women who need to observe the 'iddah, and the span of time required. We see in Qur'an 65.4Transliteration Waalla-ee ya-isna mina almaheedi min nisa-ikum ini irtabtum faAAiddatuhunna thalathatu ashhurin waalla-ee lam yahidna waolatu al-ahmali ajaluhunna an yadaAAna hamlahunna waman yattaqi Allaha yajAAal lahu min amrihi yusran
Yusuf Ali Such of your women as have passed the age of monthly courses, for them the prescribed period, if ye have any doubts, is three months, and for those who have no courses (it is the same) for those who carry (life within their wombs), their period is until they deliver their burdens and for those who fear Allah, He will make their path easy.
Qur'an Text/Transliteration 654
Here the 'Iddah is prescribed to three categories of women
First the phrase ?Yaisna min al-maheedhi? which means ?those women who are desperate of menses? is an indication to women who reached the stage of menstruation but do not menstruate and of those who reached menopause. Desperate of menses underlines that it concerns women who though reached the age, fail to menstruate too. Their 'Iddah period is three months.
Next comes, ?Wallaee Lam yahidhna? which means ?those who have not menstruated yet? This group of females are pre-pubescent girls who have not yet menstruated. Here the 'Iddah prescribed for them is equal to the previous group of women (ie. three months).
Lastly, the women who are pregnant - their prescribed 'iddah is until they have given birth.
The above translation of the verse masks the real meaning, so the verse has to be studied in Arabic. The actual meaning of this verse and its implications are explicitly endorsed by tafsirs as will be shown below.
Analysis of Verse in Arabic
The Qur'an says in Arabic
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"and those who never had menses" (because they are underage)
Quran 654
Tafsir from al-Islam.com
The transliteration of the verse and the meaning of each portion of the verse is given below
Wa Al-L' Lam Yaina
wa ( ) = and
Al-L' ( ) = for those who
Lam ( ) = did not (negation in past tense)
Yaina ( ) = menstruate.
Yaina comes from the verbal root H-Y-D ( ) which means "to menstruate".
The addition of prefix "Ya" and suffix "na" to the root "HYD" shows that the word is used in used in third person, feminine gender, plural, imperfective aspect.
The imperfective aspect, by itself lacks any tense feature. The tensed negatives like lam ( ) (negation in past tense), lan ( ) (negation in future tense), laa ( ) (negation in present tense) combined with imperfectives decide the tense in this case.
Thus lam Yadrus = He did not study.
In the verse 654, Lam Yaina = 'those who did not menstruate'.
Further the imperfective verb in the context of lam ( ) (past tensed negatives) is in the Jussive mood.
The mood is similar to the cohortative mood, in that it expresses plea, insistence, imploring, self-encouragement, wish, desire, intent, command, purpose or consequence. In some languages, the two are distinguished in that cohortative occurs in the first person and the jussive in the second or third. It is found in Arabic, where it is called the , majzum. The rules governing the jussive in Arabic are somewhat complex.
Supporting these meanings, from Lane's lexicon, Lam (ل means 'not'
Lam =
lam = Negative particle giving to the present the sense of the perfect; not.
Lane's Lexicon for Lam
From the Lexicon, Arabic word for Menstruate is 'Haiz' (ض
Ha-Ya-Dad (Ha-Alif-Dad) = To have her courses, menstruate; Her blood flowed from her womb, to attain the age of menstruation, to make a thing flow.
hada vb. (1) impf. act. 654
mahid n.m. 2222
Lane's Lexicon, Volume 2, page 322, 323
Lane's Lexicon for Haa
Conclusion
It is clear the verse 654 is given as a command to be followed (Jussive mood).
The verse itself refers to those women who did not menstruate(in all of past time until the present time), which can include children or girls before puberty or attainment of menarche (first period).
Therefore, the exact translation of this portion of Qur'an 654 is "Not menstruated yet" ( ). In Arabic, the menstruating process is called HAIDH ( ). It is possible to turn this noun into its verb form. Like we do it with menstruation, "menstruate" is YAHIDH ( ). But it is LAM ( ) that appears before YAHIDH and the NA ( ) associated with YAHIDH and this puts Islamic apologists in a quandary because it cannot have any other meaning than ?Not menstruated yet?. This is the appropriate English translation.
This verse 654 should be read as a continuation of Qur'an 3349. If a woman who has not been used for sex should not have to observe any Iddah at all, as mentioned in 3349, what is the reason for the prescribed Iddah for those women who have not yet menstruated? This is a clear indication marrying pre-pubescent girls and having sex with them is sanctioned by the Qur'an.
The phrase found in Qur'an 654 as "Wallaee Lam Yahidhna" is sometimes mistranslated by apologists. Exact meaning of the phrase is available in Tafsirs (Quran interpretations).free mind people can you comment or rebuttal wikiislam.net Quran ayat analysis
Thank you all
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Peace centi50.
I do not see such nonsense in 654.
TO me,the verse is talking about those who reached the menopause ,their interim shall be 3 months. And those starting on menopause ,obviously it starts gradually ,so those who stopped menstruating but find out they are pregnant,their interim ends when they give birth.
Where are the children/girls who have not started menstruating and paedophilia here?
GOD bless you.
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This has recently been thorughly dealt with and thiscussed. The thread should not be diffiult to find.
I would point out again to the gratuitous inclusion of the word "yet" attempting to make it lok as if it referred to girls who have not mestruating age yet, instead of to those grown upwomen who for whatever reason are not mentruating, which it is obviously meant.
Salaam
