Nobody has got ghost according to Quran
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After looking at how many times does occur, I still believe it talks about the Spirit.
And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, you guide to a straight path .
Revelation and messangers are there, yet it is the Spirit which guides a human . There were many prophets yet people make silly religions and continue blindly worship idols. Without Spirit a man is just a sack full of bones, flesh, and dogmas.
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4252 says Qur'an the soul.
I said you;
According to the verses;
1- Spirit is revelation,
2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)
3- and revelation book (Quran).
Spirit= revelation.
In your dogma (maybe Christianity) humans need ghosts or monsters.
But not according to Islam.
Your ghost believing from paganism (like Christianity),
and your Christian dogma from Spiritualism, pantheism.
Regards.
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Lol, the way you immediately put your defensive shell on indicates it is you who is a dogmatist.
2856 and many other similar instances indicate that God guides whom he wills. So unless there is a guiding force which is the Spirit a Scripture alone would need traditional dogmas and stories like hadiths, so that people would 'understand' . And I believe reason is a part of the mind, not body, and the mind is a part of the spiritual.
Revelation alone is only relevant to those actually living in the same age with revelation, all the next generations have to rely either on common religious interpretations or their personal contemplation with the combination of available message in the Scripture.
Also,
Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.
Well, in case traditional mohhamedianism strictly refutes the idea of the spirit, why would they create the image of the prophet with certain supernatural qualities, who flies in the seventh heaven and splits the moon? That is a part of idolization as I see it, and while I am unsure of hadiths where mohammad talks about himself being closer to God, idolization is a part of sanctification, where people create idols and saints to worship. And worship may take various forms, such as saying sallallahu alaihi wasallam every time a subject in question is mentioned or kissing a black stone.
And I know I will piss you off by saying that spiritual beings do not worship anyone, but I still believe so sun
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4252 says Qur'an the soul.
I said you;
According to the verses;
1- Spirit is revelation,
2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)
3- and revelation book (Quran).
Spirit= revelation.
In your dogma (maybe Christianity) humans need ghosts or monsters.
But not according to Islam.
Your ghost believing from paganism (like Christianity),
and your Christian dogma from Spiritualism, pantheism.
Regards.
And verses in our bodies of course.
So we are obliged to head to the right.
3030So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
All people need verses(spirit). Verses are divine information. Especially in heaven, I think that people will be supported by the verses.
Spirit = verses,
No human has a divine piece. no ghosts.
Regards.
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When one excludes Spirit he is only left with a body, and a body needs to eat, kill, procreate, and the more it eats, kills and procreates the more powerful it feels. That is why monism-related doctrines seek caliphates, governments and blind dogmas in order to control the blind sheep and to enlarge its comfort and lust for power. And the blind sheep is not really respected in the Qur'an (822 for example).
That is why prophets namely Muhammad who appears quite innocent in the Qur'an but is portrayed as a sexual maniac and a mass murderer in the hadith literature, to establish certain religious matrix to establish this agenda.
That is why they translate hoorines as women with breasts rather than fruits for instance, because that is what bodily needs, to have constant pleasure. That is why punishments of hell is taken as literal because that is what bodily is scared of - real pain.
But I see Qur'an to be quiet misunderstood and I have a lot of evidence to back this up, since I talk to mohhamedians every day, these are deluded and blind maniacs who only seek pain and how to establish control. And when you apporach them they have no arguments against someone who believes in the Spirit and does not curse them back but provides evidence against them. So they end up sending death threats and constant insults ) Because they indeed do not follow anything righteous and spiritual. And none of them understand the Qur'an without tafsir or even try to understand.
The teachings of Jesus are quite the contrary, and the Sura 109 of the Qur'an, for instance, is an evidence and yet a great example of how tolerant this teaching is, and not bodily.
That is why I have problems with the way Qur'an is understood today. I don't believe in cutting off hands even to thieves. And how many of you Quran alone guys and gals would actually punish someone with hundred lashes for adultery?
Even mohhamedians would not punish adulturers with hundred lashes, that is too weak for them. They will use judean/paganist stoning practice. But you guys seem to be quite peaceful, so here is a test for you would you punish adulturers with hunded lashes happen you stay on the uninhabitant island with several other quran alone followers and two people would commit adultery?
I believe Qur'an to be different from monism dogmas, many verses attribute to each, yet many other seems to be of contrary. Something is clearly fishy here -X confused
Fuck monism anyways.
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And verses in our bodies of course.
So we are obliged to head to the right.
3030So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
All people need verses(spirit). Verses are divine information. Especially in heaven, I think that people will be supported by the verses.
Spirit = verses,
No human has a divine piece. no ghosts.
Regards.
And since our Lord is separate from all creation, it is a great sin to attribute a partner to God, because nothing He has created is a part or reflection of Him.
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609800.0
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The origin of belief in souls / ghosts is spiritualism and pantheism.
And pagan christianity is trojonhorse of spiritualism ofcourse.
Islam and spiritual doctrine are completely different from each other.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXA38GeVM6k
Regards.
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Dualism can be traced to earliest preserved texts i.e. the Epic of Gilgamesh
Fame haunts the man who visits hell,
Who lives to tell my tale identically.
So like a sage, a trickster or saint,
GILGAMESH
Was a hero who knew secrets and saw forbidden places,
Who could even speak of the time before.How could the angels bow before the Adam? Doesn't it sound contradictory to the idea of the greatest power of the Divine whereas a man is but a slave?
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If you read the Qur'an in a holistic and honest way, you can easily see why they bowed.
Peace
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And verses in our bodies of course.
So we are obliged to head to the right.
3030So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
All people need verses(spirit). Verses are divine information. Especially in heaven, I think that people will be supported by the verses.
Spirit = verses,
No human has a divine piece. no ghosts.
Regards.
In paradise humans will be the perfect character . Because they will supported with verses(spirit). Like prophets.
The support in this world is less.
As long as we test and confront ourselves.
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Humans can be perfect characters here as well.
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Do you not have a mind, Emre?
If yes, you have a soul.
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Humans can be perfect characters here as well.
It can not be as much in heaven/paradise.
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Do you not have a mind, Emre?
If yes, you have a soul.
Mind is not from ghosts or monsters.
The intelligence or artificial intelligence does not need ghouls.
Peace.
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Mind is not from ghosts or monsters.
The intelligence or artificial intelligence does not need ghouls.
Umm..just what?? You do realize an AI is a product of intelligent beings, who know how to script? AI is not "intelligent" itself but follows the pre-defined patterns so it's funny to hear you compare the two.
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Umm..just what?? You do realize an AI is a product of intelligent beings, who know how to script? AI is not "intelligent" itself but follows the pre-defined patterns so it's funny to hear you compare the two.
Today, artificial intelligence is still in its infancy.
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This is a beginning for artificial intelligence . But things that are already unpredictable are beginning to do.
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This is a beginning for artificial intelligence . But things that are already unpredictable are beginning to do.
Intelligence and consciousness are quite different things.
Having intelligence does not imply having consciousness, for thinking without being conscious about one's own being and individuality will not be like a human.
You watch too much irobot and terminator.
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This is a beginning for artificial intelligence . But things that are already unpredictable are beginning to do.
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Intelligence is a possibility to think, one aspect of a thought - a possibility for a self-study. To create an intelligence who could self-study, for instance playing chess and progress the skill in check, is possible, they are trying to do it since the 1990's.
However, to create an android as in the Hollywood comedy childish movies, which would escort and help little kids, that's fantasy and won't happen.
It reminds me of the 1970's. Nobody knew what computers are and the actors did randomly hit the keyboard with straight faces and looked at the randomly generated lights on the panel. Nobody thought to actually consult a specialist in the field D
Mohhamedianism makes people less conscious, btw. They become animals.
