Nobody has got ghost according to Quran
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Unlike the traditional Islamic doctrine which is under the influence of sects and hadith fabrications, in the real Islamic doctrine of the Quran people have NO ghosts/ souls/ spirits. People do NOT have a divine component, a soul, a spirit nor a ghost.
Everything created in the universe is material, physical and real, NOT an illusion. (for example the first man Adam was made from clay element and the jinn was made from fire element)
Heaven and Hell are NOT mental delusions. They are ?physical? places created in another universe.
Unfortunately, terms such as soul- spirit (an immortal divine component, a ghost that can exist on its own without the body even after death) have succeed to enter Islam due to wrong translations -which are made under the influence of hadith fabrications- and Islamic mysticism (sufism). But in the original text of the Quran (Arabic version), they are NOT available.
In the Quran, people have ?nafs?, which is the equivalent of ?life energy?, ?ego?, ?character?. People are born, they die and they will be ?physically? recreated in the HereafterDoes the human being think that We will not gather his bones? Indeed, We were able to make his fingertips (The Resurrection, 75 3-4)
As also can be seen in the verses, people do NOT have souls/ spirits, they only have ?nefs?, which dies together with the bodily functions. And as again can be understood from the verses ?most? of the people will be recreated in the Judgment Day. We use the word ?most? because there are some exceptions. The Quran gives the examples of very meritorious people, such as martyrs or prophets and on the other edge some deadly sinners, such as the Pharaoh who committed outrage to his people.
These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown. They are either rewarded in Heaven (physically) or punished in Hell (physically).
Examples to the righteous who go to Heaven immediately after their death
? Do not count that those who are killed in the sake of God are dead. No, they are alive at their Lord receiving provisions. Happy with what God has granted them from His favor, and they rejoice for those who have yet to follow them. There is no fear over them nor do they grieve. (The Family of Imran, 3 169-170)
? A man came running from the farthest part of the city, saying "O my people, follow the messengers. Follow those who do not ask you for any wage, and are guided. Why should I not serve the One who initiated me, and to Him is your ultimate return? Shall I take gods besides Him? If the Gracious intends any harm for me, their intercession cannot help me in the least, nor can they save me. Then I would be clearly astray. I have acknowledged your Lord, so listen to me! It was said, "Enter Paradise." He said "Oh, how I wish my people only knew of what my Lord has forgiven me, and made me of the honored ones."We did not send down upon his people after him soldiers from the sky; for there was no need to send them down. For all it took was one scream, whereupon they were stilled. (3620-29)
Example to the disbelievers who committed ?deadly? sins and tyranny
? So God protected him from the evil of what they schemed, while the people of Pharaoh have incurred the worst retribution. The fire, which they will be exposed to morning and evening, and on the day when the moment is established "Admit the people of Pharaoh into the most severe of the retribution." (The Believer, 40 45-46)
And the following verses refer to the common/ordinary people, possibly the majority of the disbelievers
? The horn will be blown, whereupon they will rise from the graves rushing towards their Lord. They will say, "Woe to us. Who has resurrected us from our resting place? This is what the Gracious had promised. The messengers were truthful!" (Ya sin, 36 51-52)
In the Quran the word ?Spirit? only refers to the ?Holy Ghost/Spirit? and to the messages It brought. For example
We gave Moses the book, and after him, We sent the messengers. Later We gave Jesus son of Mary the clear proofs, and We supported Him with the Holy Spirit. Is it that every time a messenger comes to you with what your minds do not desire, you become arrogant? A group of them you deny, and a group of them you kill! (287)
Such messengers, We have preferred some to others; some of them talked to God, and He raised some of them in ranks, and We gave Jesus son of Mary the proofs and We supported him with the Holy Spirit. Had God wished, the people after them would not have fought after the proofs had come to them, but they disputed, some of them acknowledged and some of them did not appreciate. Had God wished they would not have fought, but God does whatever He wishes. (2253)
God said, "O Jesus son of Mary, recall My blessings upon you and your mother that I supported you with the Holy Spirit; you spoke to the people in the cradle and in old age; and I taught you the book and the wisdom, and the Torah, and the Injeel; and you would create from clay the shape of a bird, then blow into it and it becomes a bird by My leave; and you heal the blind and the leper by My leave; and you brought out the dead by My leave. I have restrained the Children of Israel from you, that you came to them with proofs; but those who rejected amongst them said, "This is an obvious magic!" (5110)
He sends down the angels with the Spirit by His command upon whom He wishes of His servants "That you shall warn that there is no god but I, so be aware of Me." (162)
They ask you concerning the Spirit. Say, "The Spirit is from the command of my Lord, and the knowledge you were given was but very little.? (1785)
It was sent down with the trusted Spirit. (26193)Possessor of the highest ranks, the One with the Throne. He sends the Spirit with His command upon whom He wills from His servants, so that they may warn of the day of Summoning. (4015)
You will not find any people who acknowledge God and the Last day befriending those who oppose God and His messenger, even if they were their parents, or their children, or their siblings, or their tribe. For these, He decrees trust into their hearts, and supports them with a Spirit from Him, and He admits them into paradises with rivers flowing beneath, wherein they will abide. God is pleased with them, and they are pleased with Him. These are the party of God. Most assuredly, the party of God are the winners. (5822)
The day when the Spirit and the angels stand in line, none will speak unless the Gracious permits him and he speaks what is true. (783
Some dangers of thinking that people have spirits/ souls
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Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.
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It also contributes to building up a strong belief of spiritual evolution. As a result of this false belief, in order to evolve spiritually, people praise suffering and pain. When they encounter a disastrous situation, instead of getting out of it, they welcome it and take it as a reward. However, according to the Quran, the bad things that come to us are either to test us or a result of our sins, our own malignancy.
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Spiritualists regard life as a school where we, as students, learn and mature. These people maintain that suffering / pain is a must for spiritual evolution. Thus, it turns the evil into hidden heroes having a special (key) role in the spiritual evolution process. Those who can read between the lines can easily realize that it glorifies the evil (even Satan). Also spiritualists
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Belief in the spirits opens the door to reincarnation, which means that we will be different creatures (different gender, different personality, different appearance etc.) in our other lives (!) In other words, it means that a person that dies is gone forever, which is actually a very materialistic point of view again if you read between the lines.
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Some spiritualists think that death is something positive as spirit confined to the physical body will be set free and unite with God and become one. This deviant view also praises suicides.
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People, who believe that people have spirits, mostly swap the belief for the Judgment Day with reincarnation and thus, they reject the belief in reward and punishment in the afterlife and eliminate Heaven and Hell, attributing symbolic meanings to both. In addition, they adopt ascetic lifestyles and scorn the beauties, provisions God gives us (in this world and in the other world).
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People who believe in the spirits are more likely to be cheated by the jinns.
Regards
http//emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2011/07/nobody-has-got-ghost-according-to-quran.html
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You mean you can see Jinns/ They are really visible so that one can see them ?
I have never seen one?
Can you see your "Qareen"?
You also say,Quote
These exceptional people have already started to reap what they have sown.You mean there is no day of judgement awaiting everyone?
GOD bless.
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Maybe you did not see it, maybe I saw it? If they want, they become visible to us.
Sebe 12 And unto Solomon (We gave) the wind, whereof the morning course was a month's journey and the evening course a month's journey, and We caused the fount of copper to gush forth for him, and (We gave him) certain of the jinn who worked before him by permission of his Lord. And such of them as deviated from Our command, them We caused to taste the punishment of flaming fire.
Some people do not wait for the Day of Resurrection for life. But they are also called to court on the Day of Resurrection.
I am telling this in the my Turkish article entitled "The Heavens / Universes", with proofs.
https//emre1974tr.blogspot.com.tr/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html
Peace
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According to the verses; Spirit is revelation, holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel) and revelation book.
spirit = revelation (according to Quran)
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1- According to Quran Adam was Messenger.
333 Indeed, Allah chose Adam and Noah and the family of Abraham and the family of 'Imran over the worlds
1958 Those were the ones upon whom Allah bestowed favor from among the prophets of the descendants of Adam and of those We carried with Noah, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel, and of those whom We guided and chose. When the verses of the Most Merciful were recited to them, they fell in prostration and weeping.
There were (in the garden) also other people like Adam and his wife, who were created directly. They are the congregation, and Adam is the leader, Messenger.
2- Verse you gave about the first human being, the revelation of Adam. The revelation of creation mentioned here.
Revelation in all of our genes.
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After looking at how many times does occur, I still believe it talks about the Spirit.
And thus We have revealed to you an inspiration of Our command. You did not know what is the Book or faith, but We have made it a light by which We guide whom We will of Our servants. And indeed, you guide to a straight path .
Revelation and messangers are there, yet it is the Spirit which guides a human . There were many prophets yet people make silly religions and continue blindly worship idols. Without Spirit a man is just a sack full of bones, flesh, and dogmas.
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4252 says Qur'an the soul.
I said you;
According to the verses;
1- Spirit is revelation,
2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)
3- and revelation book (Quran).
Spirit= revelation.
In your dogma (maybe Christianity) humans need ghosts or monsters.
But not according to Islam.
Your ghost believing from paganism (like Christianity),
and your Christian dogma from Spiritualism, pantheism.
Regards.
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Lol, the way you immediately put your defensive shell on indicates it is you who is a dogmatist.
2856 and many other similar instances indicate that God guides whom he wills. So unless there is a guiding force which is the Spirit a Scripture alone would need traditional dogmas and stories like hadiths, so that people would 'understand' . And I believe reason is a part of the mind, not body, and the mind is a part of the spiritual.
Revelation alone is only relevant to those actually living in the same age with revelation, all the next generations have to rely either on common religious interpretations or their personal contemplation with the combination of available message in the Scripture.
Also,
Having a belief that people have spirits often leads up to the sanctification of the humans. It leads people to associate himself / herself with God.
Well, in case traditional mohhamedianism strictly refutes the idea of the spirit, why would they create the image of the prophet with certain supernatural qualities, who flies in the seventh heaven and splits the moon? That is a part of idolization as I see it, and while I am unsure of hadiths where mohammad talks about himself being closer to God, idolization is a part of sanctification, where people create idols and saints to worship. And worship may take various forms, such as saying sallallahu alaihi wasallam every time a subject in question is mentioned or kissing a black stone.
And I know I will piss you off by saying that spiritual beings do not worship anyone, but I still believe so sun
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4252 says Qur'an the soul.
I said you;
According to the verses;
1- Spirit is revelation,
2- holy spirit (the angel messenger conveying the message, revelation angel)
3- and revelation book (Quran).
Spirit= revelation.
In your dogma (maybe Christianity) humans need ghosts or monsters.
But not according to Islam.
Your ghost believing from paganism (like Christianity),
and your Christian dogma from Spiritualism, pantheism.
Regards.
And verses in our bodies of course.
So we are obliged to head to the right.
3030So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
All people need verses(spirit). Verses are divine information. Especially in heaven, I think that people will be supported by the verses.
Spirit = verses,
No human has a divine piece. no ghosts.
Regards.
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When one excludes Spirit he is only left with a body, and a body needs to eat, kill, procreate, and the more it eats, kills and procreates the more powerful it feels. That is why monism-related doctrines seek caliphates, governments and blind dogmas in order to control the blind sheep and to enlarge its comfort and lust for power. And the blind sheep is not really respected in the Qur'an (822 for example).
That is why prophets namely Muhammad who appears quite innocent in the Qur'an but is portrayed as a sexual maniac and a mass murderer in the hadith literature, to establish certain religious matrix to establish this agenda.
That is why they translate hoorines as women with breasts rather than fruits for instance, because that is what bodily needs, to have constant pleasure. That is why punishments of hell is taken as literal because that is what bodily is scared of - real pain.
But I see Qur'an to be quiet misunderstood and I have a lot of evidence to back this up, since I talk to mohhamedians every day, these are deluded and blind maniacs who only seek pain and how to establish control. And when you apporach them they have no arguments against someone who believes in the Spirit and does not curse them back but provides evidence against them. So they end up sending death threats and constant insults ) Because they indeed do not follow anything righteous and spiritual. And none of them understand the Qur'an without tafsir or even try to understand.
The teachings of Jesus are quite the contrary, and the Sura 109 of the Qur'an, for instance, is an evidence and yet a great example of how tolerant this teaching is, and not bodily.
That is why I have problems with the way Qur'an is understood today. I don't believe in cutting off hands even to thieves. And how many of you Quran alone guys and gals would actually punish someone with hundred lashes for adultery?
Even mohhamedians would not punish adulturers with hundred lashes, that is too weak for them. They will use judean/paganist stoning practice. But you guys seem to be quite peaceful, so here is a test for you would you punish adulturers with hunded lashes happen you stay on the uninhabitant island with several other quran alone followers and two people would commit adultery?
I believe Qur'an to be different from monism dogmas, many verses attribute to each, yet many other seems to be of contrary. Something is clearly fishy here -X confused
Fuck monism anyways.
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And verses in our bodies of course.
So we are obliged to head to the right.
3030So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
All people need verses(spirit). Verses are divine information. Especially in heaven, I think that people will be supported by the verses.
Spirit = verses,
No human has a divine piece. no ghosts.
Regards.
And since our Lord is separate from all creation, it is a great sin to attribute a partner to God, because nothing He has created is a part or reflection of Him.
https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9609800.0
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The origin of belief in souls / ghosts is spiritualism and pantheism.
And pagan christianity is trojonhorse of spiritualism ofcourse.
Islam and spiritual doctrine are completely different from each other.
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXA38GeVM6k
Regards.
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Dualism can be traced to earliest preserved texts i.e. the Epic of Gilgamesh
Fame haunts the man who visits hell,
Who lives to tell my tale identically.
So like a sage, a trickster or saint,
GILGAMESH
Was a hero who knew secrets and saw forbidden places,
Who could even speak of the time before.How could the angels bow before the Adam? Doesn't it sound contradictory to the idea of the greatest power of the Divine whereas a man is but a slave?
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If you read the Qur'an in a holistic and honest way, you can easily see why they bowed.
Peace
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And verses in our bodies of course.
So we are obliged to head to the right.
3030So direct your face toward the religion, inclining to truth. the fitrah of Allah upon which He has created people. No change should there be in the creation of Allah . That is the correct religion, but most of the people do not know.
All people need verses(spirit). Verses are divine information. Especially in heaven, I think that people will be supported by the verses.
Spirit = verses,
No human has a divine piece. no ghosts.
Regards.
In paradise humans will be the perfect character . Because they will supported with verses(spirit). Like prophets.
The support in this world is less.
As long as we test and confront ourselves.
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Humans can be perfect characters here as well.
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Do you not have a mind, Emre?
If yes, you have a soul.
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Humans can be perfect characters here as well.
It can not be as much in heaven/paradise.
