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Evil eye and superstitions

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    Lost
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    One of the major illness observed within the tradtional communities is the belief in evil eye as well as other supersitions. I will concentrate on the evil eye because this belief is becoming so widespread even among westernized youths and its effect is overwhelming. Being surrounded by young ''muslims'' I can tell you that the thing is really dealing one hell of a blow to the rational thinking of ''our'' youths. They like to blame everything bad happening to them on the evil eye and they are becoming increasingly paranoid in nature. I swear that it is so bad that some are even afraid to answer normal questions. For example, I remember this guy who would deviate the subject everytime he's asked concerning his scolarity because he feared that people would cast evil eye on him for attending university rotfl rotfl rotfl. I mean seriously who cares if you go to university, you're not the only one brickwall. Personal experience shows me that this kind of people often become out of their mind and isolated to the extent they can't live normally no more. And it is happeneing to many young men over here, they always consider everyone as a threat as if we give a damn about their lives and as if they are involved in some kind of secret experimentations while they only bought like a new phone or something rotfl. And guess who are most vulnerable to becoming like that ? Hadith followers of course what do you expect... This is why the traditionalist thinking can never be the true path, because every single person I know that went deep into it somehow lost their mind. This is also from where are issued concepts such as extremism people, traditionalists included, tell others to stay moderate because they are aware that going too deep in what they think is the deen will only harm you. But then how could you believe that your version of the deen is actually good, when you yourself think that going too much in it is bad, how can something be a good thing if completely adhering to it becomes harmful ?? nope brickwall rotfl

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      good_logic
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      Be careful,too many"hitting your head against the wall" will make you sore!

      Water over the bridge. Their prerogative? If they want to chain themselves and give themselves problems,how can we stop/help them?

      We can only warn/advise. Sometimes we also need to check ourselves in case we are falling into"I am right,I have the right beliefs"!!!!!!!

      The way I see it,our ego is dangerous,we think we are guided and have the "true religion"with all its mishaps.fictions and harmful nonsense?

      may the Lord save us from all nonsense and hocus pocus beliefs.
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        Lost
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        The problem is when you are surrounded by these people and they openly spread this crap as if it was the truth. I am constantly dealing with situations in which the evil eye is held accountable for whatever happens to them, be it a broken phone, a fine from the police, a financial loss, only to name a few. It's really getting on my nerves and I try to make them realise that it is nothing but utter nonsense. But they don't seem to understand it at all because these hadithic traditions are firmly rooted within the minds of ''muslims'' for so many generations. Evil eye is a very cheap way to escape responsability for their own faults. People always resort to it in order to accuse others and if only you knew how many confrontations it is causing between friends. Can't believe this primitive bullshit is still running around in 2017...

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          I agree with you. Traditional Islam is full of contradictions.
          For example how can we say we believe in GOD which by Qoran definition means the best protector,the Almighty,the all powerful,yet also believe in another power of the "evil eye"?
          Say it was true that there was an "evil eye",would it not make sense to believe that GOD is more powerful and to trust that GOD will protect from it? I mean why fear it?
          It just shows hypocrisy for me and lack of real belief in a powerful GOD!!!!

          As for what do you do? I suppose strive against them with Qoran, because GOD s evidence is overwhelming. God says

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          Whatever argument they come up with, we provide you with the truth, and a better understanding
          GOD bless you.
          Peace.

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            Lost
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            Yep, that's also one of the points I come up with when I deal with them ; that they are in fact doing ''shirk'' by attributing power to fellow creatures. If you are young enough and familiar with japansese anime, you probably know about the sharingan from the show Naruto. It's a special eye granted to some members of a certain clan which endow great abilities to the user. I often make fun of their evil eye by comparing it with the sharingan rotfl rotfl rotfl .

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              Makaveli
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              Evil eye paranoia is super popular in most societies. I live in the Baltic States, a very secular population, yet Russian-speaking population here is somewhat conservative because they've acquired some Christian Orthodox traditions from their parents and grandparents. If they are applying for a job, for instance, they won't tell you which position they apply to , due to superstitions, similarly when they apply for the academy and similar stuff. Many other paganistic superstitions are in place as well, such as it is not good to take away trash in the evening or to pass an object through the doorstep.

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                It appears to be the norm in every ritualistic society and it is most likely a very ancient belief in humanity that managed to survive for so long. In traditional Islam however, it is of a great importance and people make a very big deal out of it. If the othodox christian Russians you talk about won't tell you the position until they get it, most ''muslims'' won't even tell you about it unless it becomes too awkward trying to hide it. This is the kind of behavior hindering ''muslims'' from being rational thinkers instead of superstitious paranoids thinking that everybody envy them as if they were angels or something. It is more than clear that the concept of evil eye crept its way into ''islamic'' societies from external sources representing the popular beliefs back then and was incorporated in the hadithic corpus to canonize it as part of the deen.

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                  "Evil eye" has its root in Judaism...
                  And Judaism perhaps 'inherit it' from either Ancient Egyptian and/or Sumerians...

                  Copied from http//www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/evil-eye-2

                  "Once the Evil Eye has been provoked, one must counter its harmful effects with magic. If the Evil Eye is attracted, mirrors and red or blue objects are utilized to veer away the glimpse of the eye, while a sacred verse or extreme motion (jumping around or throwing oneself upon the ground) may frighten it away. Some other ritual gestures developed to counteract the effects of the Evil Eye include

                  ? Placing a precious stone between the eyes,
                  ? Putting a spot of dirt or ash on the forehead of a child,
                  ? Spitting three times onto the fingers,
                  ? Throwing salt into the corners of a room,
                  ? Piercing a lemon with iron nails,

                  "

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                    "Evil eye" has its root in Judaism...
                    And Judaism perhaps 'inherit it' from either Ancient Egyptian and/or Sumerians...

                    Copied from http//www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/evil-eye-2

                    "Once the Evil Eye has been provoked, one must counter its harmful effects with magic. If the Evil Eye is attracted, mirrors and red or blue objects are utilized to veer away the glimpse of the eye, while a sacred verse or extreme motion (jumping around or throwing oneself upon the ground) may frighten it away. Some other ritual gestures developed to counteract the effects of the Evil Eye include

                    ? Placing a precious stone between the eyes,
                    ? Putting a spot of dirt or ash on the forehead of a child,
                    ? Spitting three times onto the fingers,
                    ? Throwing salt into the corners of a room,
                    ? Piercing a lemon with iron nails,

                    "

                    What is interesting it says "Although the Evil Eye is not referenced in the Bible, it is discussed in the Talmud and Kabbalah".

                    Yeah sure, where else could it come from lol.

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