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Should Hajj be viewed as a thing of the past?

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    I guess the title is self-explanatory but I wonder because the way it is presented in the quran makes it appear so. Plus the fact that it is not really dealt with in details and we only get a vague idea as to how exactly it should be done, leads me to believe that it was like a massive gathering, the purpose of which would be to bring everyone to a single point in order to spread the word while trading. In any case, I think we all agree it's not a ritual pilgrimage to visit some holy place or some stuff like that, this kind of place worshiping behavior has no place in the quran obviously...

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      I don?t know about that but I certainly am put off by the fact I have to be injected with all the new immunisation shots. Not to mention the serious risk of death because of incompetence on the part of the supposed custodians.

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        No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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        928 O you who have believed, the idolaters are impure, so do not approach the inviolable place of submission after this, their year. (If you experience poverty, then God will enrich you from His bounties if He wills. The god is knowledgeable, wise.)

        Al masjid al haram is closed for those who have believed. I dont see why there should not be one or even many independently set-up local annual discussions that include donated food (that is how I understand hajj at the moment), though.

        Even if you deny that "la yaqraboo" means "do not approach," I strongly doubt the black rock house is/was the inviolable place of submission, and a better case can be made that it was/is in Petra. If you still disagree Why would anyone want to dress up in an Arab toga and kiss an idolatrous black cube, get pushed and trampled on by kafeeroon and munafiqun, etc? It also seems like the stone house has three pillars sybolizing the 3 pagan Arab idols. All in all it is polluted with/founded on idolatry.

        I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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          Petra? That is just sloppy so called progressive

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            No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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            Petra? That is just sloppy so called progressive

            OK Mr Sunni Dawah Man. Go and kiss your black stone idol representing Al Uzza/Aphrodite, and go gather some of that "holy water."

            I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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              I guess the title is self-explanatory but I wonder because the way it is presented in the quran makes it appear so. Plus the fact that it is not really dealt with in details and we only get a vague idea as to how exactly it should be done, leads me to believe that it was like a massive gathering, the purpose of which would be to bring everyone to a single point in order to spread the word while trading. In any case, I think we all agree it's not a ritual pilgrimage to visit some holy place or some stuff like that, this kind of place worshiping behavior has no place in the quran obviously...

              Absolutely. It's racist to designate one region on this planet as holy for the economic benefit of one country.

              Isn't the whole earth blessed? Hajj should be like the Olympics where every nation gets a chance to host it. So all nations can reap the benefits that such gathering may bring.

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                Isn't the whole earth blessed? Hajj should be like the Olympics where every nation gets a chance to host it. So all nations can reap the benefits that such gathering may bring.

                Interesting thought...

                It forces one to (re) think about the objective of this festivity called "Hajj".
                Why it was supposed to be hold in the first place..

                Was it to
                (a) divide humanity in the line of 'believer' and 'kafr' ? and strengthen the bonding among the 'believer' ONLY.
                (b) unite humanity regardless of social identity? (political, religion, nationality, race,ethnicity, sect, cult, ideology etc..)
                or
                (c) provide revenue / sustenance to a certain group of people located in one specific place

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