Blood vs Running Blood
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6145 Say, "I do not find in what is inspired to me forbidden except that it be already dead, or running blood/blood poured forth, or the meat of pig, for it is foul; or what is corruptly dedicated to other than God." Whoever is forced without seeking disobedience or transgression, then your Lord is Forgiving, Compassionate.
Here it says nothing for an eater/consumer is forbidden except running blood and the other items.
2173 He has only forbidden for you what is already dead, the blood, the meat of pig, and what was dedicated to other than God. Whoever finds himself forced out of need and without disobedience or animosity, there is no sin upon him. God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
Here it mentions blood in general.
53 Forbidden to you is what is already dead, and the blood, the meat of pig, and what was dedicated to other than God. The strangled, killed by a blow, fallen from height, gored, eaten by wild animals except what you managed to rescue, and those slaughtered on altars... Also what you divide through gambling. This is all vile. Today the ingrates have given up from your system, so do not revere them, but revere Me. Today I have perfected your system for you, completed My blessings upon you, and I have accepted peaceful surrenderas the system for you. So, whoever is forced by severe hunger and not seeking sin, then God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
And so on...
So why are both terms used and what in terms of blood is prohibited in your opinion?
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So why are both terms used and what in terms of blood is prohibited in your opinion?
peace, note difference with and/or which the first is read together...
2173/53
" and the blood and flesh the swine" (excludes any/all swine blood and flesh)6145
or blood of poured of (excludes any blood poured NOT permeated in the meat)
or flesh swine -
peace, note difference with and/or which the first is read together...
2173/53
" and the blood and flesh the swine" (excludes any/all swine blood and flesh)6145
or blood of poured of (excludes any blood poured NOT permeated in the meat)
or flesh swine53 Hurrimat AAalaykumu al-maytatu wa al-damu wa lahmu al-khinzeeri wa ma...
2173 Innama harrama AAalaykumu al-maytata wa al-dama wa lahma al-khinzeeri wa ma...
Can you explain why it says what you said gramatically? Why isnt the blood separate from meat of swine? Would it have to say lahman wa daman khinzeerin or something similar? Why not?
And if what you say is true, then "inna ma" cant mean "only forbidden" as some put it since then other animals' blood and blood poured forth arent included.
6145 Qul la ajidu feema oohiyailayya muharraman AAala taAAimin yatAAamuhuilla an yakoona maytatan aw daman masfoohan aw lahma khinzeerin
Whats the grammatic significance and difference of the underlined compared to the other verses? What does the absence of "al" do?
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And if what you say is true, then "inna ma" cant mean "only forbidden" as some put it since then other animals' blood and blood poured forth arent included.
all verses have "forbidden" (take all into consideration) which 645 pertains to "any animal" blood poured forth; cows, etc.
perhaps read thus...
2173 merely arrama/prohibit upon you
the lifeless
and the blood and flesh the swine
and what dedicated with it to other than the god53 urrimat/prohibit it upon you
the lifeless
and the blood and flesh the swine
and what dedicated to other than the god with it
and the strangled
and the struck fatally
and the fatally fallen
and the gored
and what ate the wild except what butcher yours
and what slaughter on the statue/alter
and that seek division ye of by the arrows6145 say not I find in what inspires to me muarraman/impermissible of
on an eater who eats it except that being
lifeless
or blood of poured of (i.e. any blood poured forth any animal)
or flesh swine so surely it filthiness
or disobedience of dedicate to other than the god with it16115 merely arrama/prohibit upon you
the lifeless
and the blood and flesh the swine
and what dedicated to other than the god with it -
all verses have "forbidden" (take all into consideration) which 645 pertains to "any animal" blood poured forth; cows, etc.
perhaps read thus...
2173 merely arrama/prohibit upon you
the lifeless
and the blood and flesh the swine
and what dedicated with it to other than the god16115 merely arrama/prohibit upon you
the lifeless
and the blood and flesh the swine
and what dedicated to other than the god with it6145 say not I find in what inspires to me muarraman/impermissible of
on an eater who eats it except that being
lifeless
or blood of poured of (i.e. any blood poured forth any animal)
or flesh swine so surely it filthiness
or disobedience of dedicate to other than the god with itIf "inna ma" means "merely", there is a problem with what you said between 6145 and 2173/16115 since the latter do not mention blood poured forth of other animals.
53 urrimat/prohibit it upon you
the lifeless
and the blood and flesh the swine
and what dedicated to other than the god with it
and the strangled
and the struck fatally
and the fatally fallen
and the gored
and what ate the wild except what butcher yours
and what slaughter on the statue/alter
and that seek division ye of by the arrowsNo issue here since there is no "merely" or "only."
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6145 Say, "I do not find in what is inspired to me forbidden except that it be already dead, or running blood/blood poured forth, or the meat of pig, for it is foul; or what is corruptly dedicated to other than God." Whoever is forced without seeking disobedience or transgression, then your Lord is Forgiving, Compassionate.
Here it says nothing for an eater/consumer is forbidden except running blood and the other items.
2173 He has only forbidden for you what is already dead, the blood, the meat of pig, and what was dedicated to other than God. Whoever finds himself forced out of need and without disobedience or animosity, there is no sin upon him. God is Forgiving, Compassionate.
Please just notice the difference in the structures and flow of information in both ayahs.
You the Messenger pronounce "I do not find; in the contents of that which has verbally been communicated to me (Grand Qur'aan), any food prohibited and forbidden upon a feeder which he usually takes as feed;
Except the prohibition that it feed were a naturally dead mammal;
Or the food comprised flowing liquid blood;
Or the food contains bacon - meat of pig; reason being that it certainly suffers messiness, filthiness;
Or the meat of that mammal slaughtered in the name/pronouncing someone other than Allah the Exalted; it is an act of denouncing allegiance and transgressing the bounds."
The aforementioned prohibition is relaxed for desperate reason of quiver/shudder because of extreme hunger subject to further condition that one will not be held guilty of sin for eating any of the forbidden things provided he had no urge and liking for that; and he does not transgress the limit of relieving the state of quiver/shudder from hunger.
This is because the Sustainer Lord of you is indeed Oft-forgiving/overlooking; the Fountain of Mercy.
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Please just notice the difference in the structures and flow of information in both ayahs.
You the Messenger pronounce "I do not find; in the contents of that which has verbally been communicated to me (Grand Qur'aan), any food prohibited and forbidden upon a feeder which he usually takes as feed;
Except the prohibition that it feed were a naturally dead mammal;
Or the food comprised flowing liquid blood;
Or the food contains bacon - meat of pig; reason being that it certainly suffers messiness, filthiness;
Or the meat of that mammal slaughtered in the name/pronouncing someone other than Allah the Exalted; it is an act of denouncing allegiance and transgressing the bounds."
The aforementioned prohibition is relaxed for desperate reason of quiver/shudder because of extreme hunger subject to further condition that one will not be held guilty of sin for eating any of the forbidden things provided he had no urge and liking for that; and he does not transgress the limit of relieving the state of quiver/shudder from hunger.
This is because the Sustainer Lord of you is indeed Oft-forgiving/overlooking; the Fountain of Mercy.
Peace,
I understand 6145. However why is only blood mentioned in the other verses and what does "inna ma harrama alaykumu" mean? I see an issue with "only forbidden you"
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Peace,
I understand 6145. However why is only blood mentioned in the other verses and what does "inna ma harrama alaykumu" mean? I see an issue with "only forbidden you"
In 6145 it is about the feed lying on your table that one usually eats. It can include a glass filled with liquid blood. The blood that is present within the flesh lying roasted on our table does contain blood but it is not visibly the part of the food lying on table. The point stands clarified what is meant by including blood in the prohibited list.
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This is a particle of limitation or restriction . It stands at the beginning of proposition and the word or portion which is effected by it is placed at the end for the sake of emphasis.
This comes after the . It is a particle and it stops these from carrying out their typical grammatical influence. In the case of especially, even the meaning is altered from ?indeed? to that of restriction.He the Exalted has forbidden upon you people specifically the dead corpse-mammal who has died a natural death, and the blood, and the meat of swine - pig flesh?
And that mammal which has been slaughtered pronouncing the name of someone other than Allah the Exalted
However, for desperate reason of quiver-shudder , one will not be held guilty of sin for eating any of the forbidden things provided he had no urge and liking for it, and further, that he transgresses not the limit of relieving the state of quiver/shudder from hunger.
It is a fact that Allah the Exalted is repeatedly Forgiving-Overlooking, the fountain of Mercy.