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What is the cause of existence of the Universe we live in?

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    good_logic
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    Peace progressive.

    Wait ,I am also waiting.
    I have read your stuff, at the beginning of the journey there are many obstacles. You are hitting few of them at the moments in many threads. There are still contradictions,dogmas and misconceptions in your views in my opinion.
    Too eager and enthusiastic. Have patience and keep studying.
    Please forgive my honest and sincere feedback.
    May the Lord help you to overcome some of these obstacles.
    GOD bless you.
    Peace

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      No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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      Peace progressive.

      Wait ,I am also waiting.
      I have read your stuff, at the beginning of the journey there are many obstacles. You are hitting few of them at the moments in many threads. There are still contradictions,dogmas and misconceptions in your views in my opinion.
      Too eager and enthusiastic. Have patience and keep studying.
      Please forgive my honest and sincere feedback.
      May the Lord help you to overcome some of these obstacles.
      GOD bless you.
      Peace

      The irony is piling on. Keep twisting your tongue to deny the words of the god, while believing fake idols/tyrants such as NASA, gravity and more.

      I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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        good_logic
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        Well brother, this is where we part company.
        If the Lord wills,we may come back to discuss this in the future.
        There is a reason for everything.
        My reason is to encourage you with more studies on the subject.
        GOD bless you.
        Peace

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          Abdun_Nur
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          Clearly the earth is a sphere, plenty of evidence confirms this, gravity however is not an attraction of mass, that they have lied about, if it were it would pull in all directions, so for example if i stood at the side of a huge mountain it should pull me sideways, but of course it does not.

          The earth is also a growing body, as all planets are, this is due to the constant absorption of comic energy, this absorption attracted by the metallic body of the planet is the cause of gravity and the reason the earth expands, the lie is that the earth has moving plates that subduct, this is an insane idea were the newly formed sea bed which is 3 to 6km thick hits the older land masses which are around 34km thick and is pushed directly downwards, there is no evidence to support such a nonsensical idea. If the fossil record is considered insects originally dominated the land and were enormous, this was because the earth was very much smaller and the force of gravity was reduced, as the earth grew the insects became smaller, this happened again with the dinosaurs, it was their huge size that drove them to extinction as the earth grew bigger they could not withstand the gravity.

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            Noon_waalqalami
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            Your username is ironic at this point. Still no one has or can refute the following properly to my knowledge

            https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608640.msg410971#msg410971

            peace, you posted this right?

            author=progressive1993
            (2922) And you cannot escape in the earth or in the sky. And you have besides God neither ally nor helper.

            How did NASA escape then?

            cannot escape "punishment" anywhere including " in the heaven/sky"
            when shown need to acknowledge -- do you understand your misreading?

            congrats you proved it! read in context; cannot escape "in the land" and not "in the heaven/sky"
            therefore possible to go "there" or anywhere on earth although cannot escape the punishment.

            https//s1.postimg.org/73ounop8kv/MA_VI_165_Quran_ch29v18-27.jpg

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              No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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              Noon, you addressed 2-3 points among many which are very damning to NASA tyranny/false authority (taghoot) believers. The sky is a roof protected, and the god, the almighty source of all origin, constructed it. There are no gaps therein. We cannot escape what gullible people call "earth" which in realiy is a plane of land along with seven heavens. We cannot penetrate the barrier. The land is a plane/carpet (firashan).

              People are invited to check the verses and Youtube links in the post to which I linked.

              I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                Noon_waalqalami
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                Noon, you addressed 2-3 points among many which are very damning to NASA tyranny/false authority (taghoot) believers.

                one at a time -- do you retract and acknowledge what you posted below is incorrect YES/NO?

                author=progressive1993
                (2922) And you cannot escape in the earth or in the sky. And you have besides God neither ally nor helper.

                How did NASA escape then?

                Is not space travel possible according to verses (same like earth travel) although cannot escape punishment?

                2921 punished whom willed and has mercy whom willed and toward him thou returning 2922 and not are you in escape in the land and not in the heaven/sky and not for you from besides the god from guardian and not intercessor

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                  No longer a Sunna-rejecter
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                  one at a time -- do you retract and acknowledge what you posted below is incorrect YES/NO?

                  author=progressive1993
                  (2922) And you cannot escape in the earth or in the sky. And you have besides God neither ally nor helper.

                  How did NASA escape then?

                  Is not space travel possible according to verses (same like earth travel) although cannot escape punishment?

                  2921 punished whom willed and has mercy whom willed and toward him thou returning 2922 and not are you in escape in the land and not in the heaven/sky and not for you from besides the god from guardian and not intercessor

                  I already explained the sama shuffle. Land ("ardi&quot - not "globe" - travel is possible since you can roam it. Sama is sky, not "space." Just because a punishment is mentioned in 2921 and 23, doesnt mean you can now penetrate the physical structure which the almighty god calls sky (not "space&quot from which water is sent by the almighty god.

                  https//free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9608640.msg410971#msg410971

                  Sincere people are invited to study this post including the Youtube links. And Noon in particular is reminded that attacking one point does not negate the argument, even if he can't fathom letting go of the "taghy"/tyrany of NASA and other government manipulation.

                  Remember online "Quran Alone Islam's" favorite verse

                  1736 Do not reach conclusions about that of which you have no knowledge. (Because surely, the hearing, the sight and the mind all of them have a responsibility with regard to this.)

                  Watching TV and looking at CGI is not having knowledge.

                  I am no longer a Sunna-rejecter. See 4:59-65, 62:2-4, 3:31, 4:156, 7:157 Messenger teaches and is to be followed and obeyed. Examples of revelation received which is not in the Qur'an: 3:123-126, 33:37, 2:187, 66:3, 62:9.

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                    Noon_waalqalami
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                    Sincere people are invited to study this post including the Youtube links. And Noon in particular is reminded that attacking one point does not negate the argument, even if he can't fathom letting go of the "taghy"/tyrany of NASA and other government manipulation.

                    Remember online "Quran Alone Islam's" favorite verse

                    1736 Do not reach conclusions about that of which you have no knowledge. (Because surely, the hearing, the sight and the mind ? all of them ? have a responsibility with regard to this.)

                    Watching TV and looking at CGI is not having knowledge.

                    Peace, in Arabic l-samwtu is everything (see 1744); guess makes me a "tyrant" since NASA, Lawrence Livermore, Fermi labs, etc., are former customers which they have educational tours; suggest get out of the house visit verify yourself.

                    https//s7.postimg.org/jxrv4qd9n/MA_VI_165_Quran_ch17v35-46.jpg

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