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Allah - Common Noun?

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  • The_SardarT Offline
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    If there is a classical arabic dictionary that says ilah (&#1607 means divine, please do show us in this forum post. group group

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      If there is a classical arabic dictionary that says ilah (&#1607 means divine, please do show us in this forum post. group group

      Nobody will be able to show this to you on this forum. Arabic is a mathematical language. Most words have 3 letter root. There are predefined measures/dyes or Awzaans that roots get molded into to form new words. All these measures/dyes have predefined/preassigned meanings. These meanings are add to root meanings in order to make meaning of a thus newly formed word. Look at this formula 1+1 = 2. Root meaning + Measure meaning = Resultant word meaning. With this background knowledge of the language rules let us now look at following.

      is from root and its wazan is . Now try understanding the meanings of based upon language formula ?Meaning of root + Meaning of Wazan?.

      Meaning of root ?he worshiped or adored?
      Meaning of wazan is "Refusal or flight". Now by putting this knowledge together we get above meanings of the phrase.

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        Nobody will be able to show this to you. Arabic is a mathematical language. Most words have 3 letter root. There predefined measures/dyes or Awzaans that roots get molded to form new words. All these measures/dyes have predefined/preassigned meanings. These meanings are add to root meanings in order to make meaning of new word. Look at this formula 1+1 = 2. Root meaning + Measure meaning = Resultant word meaning. With this background knowledge og the language now look at following.

        is from root and its wazan is . Now try understanding the meanings of based upon language formula ?Meaning of root + Meaning of Wazan?.

        Meaning of root ?he worshiped or adored?
        Meaning of wazan is "Refusal or flight". Now by putting this knowledge together we get above meanings of the phrase.

        Let see what the others say about it.

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          Nobody will be able to show this to you. Arabic is a mathematical language. Most words have 3 letter root. There predefined measures/dyes or Awzaans that roots get molded to form new words. All these measures/dyes have predefined/preassigned meanings. These meanings are add to root meanings in order to make meaning of new word. Look at this formula 1+1 = 2. Root meaning + Measure meaning = Resultant word meaning. With this background knowledge og the language now look at following.

          is from root and its wazan is . Now try understanding the meanings of based upon language formula ?Meaning of root + Meaning of Wazan?.

          Meaning of root ?he worshiped or adored?
          Meaning of wazan is "Refusal or flight". Now by putting this knowledge together we get above meanings of the phrase.

          I never heard of a language being mathematical.

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            I never heard of a language being mathematical.

            Before today. Now you do, please spend your energies in this direction, if you really care to know and learn. You are asking wrong people here.

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              Before today. Now you do, please spend your energies in this direction, if you really care to know and learn. You are asking wrong people here.

              How are they wrong people?

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                How are they wrong people?

                Firstly, because they will neither verify or deny what I have asserted above as been from or not from language. Especially their denial will never be reason and evidence based. Secondly, they want you to believe what they have already decided the meanings to be.

                Wish you luck with your future learning.

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                  Firstly, because they will neither verify or deny what I have asserted above as been from or not from language. Especially their denial will never be reason and evidence based. Secondly, they want you to believe what they have already decided the meanings to be.

                  Wish you luck with your future learning.

                  Bold 1 I honestly don't think it's 100 % correct on that, i wan't to here what others say about that. By ''they'' you mean Wakas, Noon or Imran? (Correct me if i am wrong.)
                  Red You are saying like they have some sort of a hidden agenda. That sounds a bit accusing in my view. No offense.

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                    Nobody will be able to show this to you on this forum. Arabic is a mathematical language. Most words have 3 letter root. There are predefined measures/dyes or Awzaans that roots get molded into to form new words. All these measures/dyes have predefined/preassigned meanings. These meanings are add to root meanings in order to make meaning of a thus newly formed word. Look at this formula 1+1 = 2. Root meaning + Measure meaning = Resultant word meaning. With this background knowledge of the language rules let us now look at following.

                    is from root and its wazan is . Now try understanding the meanings of based upon language formula ?Meaning of root + Meaning of Wazan?.

                    Meaning of root ?he worshiped or adored?
                    Meaning of wazan is "Refusal or flight". Now by putting this knowledge together we get above meanings of the phrase.

                    If anyone of who has good skills on quranic arabic grammar can confirm this, that would be great.

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                      From Project Root List. The root word of Allah Alif-Lam-ha ( &#1607 = to serve, worship or adore; to protect, grant refuge, preserve save, rescue, liberate; object of worship ie God; (Alif-Lam-Lam-ha) God, the one true God applied as a proper name denoting the true god, comprising all the excellent divine names; a unity comprising all the essences of existing things.

                      allahumma "O God!" 326, 5114, 832, 1010, 3946
                      allah
                      "there is no god but God" 2255, 32, 318, 362, 487, 208, 2014, 2098, 2726, 2870, 3735, 3865, 4719, 5922, 5923, 6413
                      "He is God, that is God" 63, 695, 3513, 396
                      "Belonging to God" 2115, 2142, 2284, 328, 3109, 3129, 3180, 4126, 4131, 4131, 4132, 4170, 612, 6136, 6136, 81, 841, 1055, 1066, 142, 2385, 2387, 2389, 2464, 3126, 484, 487, 5325, 5331, 5710, 597, 637
                      "By God" 1273, 1285, 1291, 1295, 1656, 1663, 2157, 2697, 3756
                      "With or from God; in God's sight" ('ind Allah) 279, 294, 2110, 2217, 2282, 314, 337, 378, 378, 3163, 3198, 3198, 478, 478, 494, 6124, 7131, 7187, 822, 828, 855, 919, 920, 922, 936, 999, 1446, 1695, 1696, 2413, 2415, 2461, 2747, 2860, 3039, 3353, 3363, 3369, 4035, 4152, 4236, 4610, 485, 613, 6211, 6415, 7320
                      "God is with" 940, 4735
                      "Apart from God" (dun Allah) 223, 364, 5116, 916, 931, 1018, 1037, 1843, 1981, 2724, 2881, 2925, 3674, 3786, 4074, 4628, 5358, 7125
                      "Other than God" (ghayr Allah) 2173, 482, 53, 614, 619, 640, 646, 6114, 6145, 6164, 7140, 1596, 1652, 16115, 1722, 1739, 2122, 2760, 2761, 2762, 2763, 2764, 2871, 2872, 353, 3964, 5026, 5151, 5243

                      ilah n.m. (pl. alihah) 2133, 2133, 2133, 2163, 2163, 4171, 573, 619, 931, 1452, 1622, 1622, 1651, 18110, 18110, 2098, 21108, 21108, 2234, 2234, 2838, 2946, 2946, 374, 385, 4037, 416, 416, 4384, 4384, 1143

                      other (false) gods - 2163, 2255, 32, 36, 318, 318, 362, 487, 573, 5116, 619, 646, 674, 6102, 6106, 759, 765, 773, 785, 7127, 7138, 7138, 7140, 7158, 931, 9129, 1090, 1114, 1150, 1153, 1154, 1161, 1184, 11101, 1330, 1596, 162, 1651, 1722, 1739, 1742, 1814, 1815, 1946, 1981, 208, 2014, 2088, 2088, 2097, 2098, 2121, 2122, 2124, 2125, 2129, 2136, 2143, 2159, 2162, 2168, 2187, 2199, 2323, 2332, 2391, 2391, 23116, 23117, 253, 2542, 2543, 2568, 2629, 26213, 2726, 2760, 2761, 2762, 2763, 2764, 2838, 2870, 2871, 2872, 2888, 2888, 353, 3623, 3674, 3735, 3736, 3786, 3791, 385, 386, 3791, 385, 386, 3865, 396, 403, 4062, 4065, 4345, 4358, 448, 4523, 4622, 4628, 4719, 5026, 5151, 5243, 5922, 5923, 6413, 7123, 739

                      Lane's Lexicon, Volume 1, pages 119, 120 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=alh

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                        And from Almaany Arabic-English dictionary

                        Translation and Meaning of in Almaany English Arabic Dictionary
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                        • Allah
                        • name of God among Muslims and among Arabs of all faiths
                        • God Who has al...

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                        authorized ; licensed

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                        concessionaire ; concessioner ; licensee

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                        has

                        • 3rd singular present of have
                        • own something or have it to use it

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                        endorsee

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                        Allah ; Deity ; God (the One and Only) ; the Creator ; the Lord ; the Maker (God)

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                          And this from Lughaat-Al-Quran

                          A-L-He Ibn Faris writes that it basically means ?to accept someone?s subjugation?. ?? (aleha), ?? (ilaiheh), ? ? (yalah), mean ?to seek some one?s refuge in distress?. ?? (aaleha) also means ?to be surprised?. ?? (aalaha) or ?? (yaloh) ? to give refuge to someone in distress?, or ?to take someone under one?s protection?. As such ? ? means ?to live in some house peacefully?. {T}Under these circumstances, ?? (ilahun) would mean ?someone whose refuge may be sought in danger?, or ?someone who can be requested to save one from difficulties and the concept of whose loftiness surprises one?. Some think that this word has been extracted from ? ? (laha yaleeheh), which means ?to be lofty in stature and be hidden from the naked eye? {T}. Some others say that ?? (alah) ? that person became a slave? and ? ? (al-lahahu) ? he enslaved him?. From this come ?? (taleehun) or ?? (ta?beed) which mean ?to enslave?. Also from this we have ?? (ilah) which as a verb, turns into ?? (maaluhun), as ?kitab? and ?maktoob?) This way, ?? (ilah) would mean ?a being whose rules must be accepted and whose laws must be followed and obeyed?. As such, when the Pharoah told Moosa 2629If you accept someone else as your ?ilah? then I will have you imprisoned Here ?ilah? means someone who is in power. In the same manner, it is said 2543Have you wondered about the man who became subservient to his own desires(emotions)? Similarly, about God it is said 4384He is the One who is in the heights of the skiesas well as the depths of the universe Or, the one who is the ruler of the skies as well as of this world. So the word also means ?the one with power? or ?one who rules?.Since in pagan times, people worshipped the sun and the moon etc. as being powerful, therefore ?? (ilaaha) the moon, while ?? (aalaha) the sun. This way, anything which is worshipped is called ?? (ilah). Even the idols which are worshipped are called ?? (ilah). There is a school of thought that says that Allah is a static word, which has not been derived from any other word, but others say that this word was actually ?+? (al-ilah) that gradually became ?? (Allah) {T}In the noble Quran, the word ?Allah? has been used to describe the identity of Almighty. Therefore, Allah (the Ilah in the Quran) is that lofty being which is hidden from human eyes, but compared to whose Greatness human intellect and comprehension are quite disabled. He is the One who rules the entire universe and whose obedience is a must. And we can obey Him only as per His dictates which He has endowed us with through wahi (Revelation) and which is now capsuled safely in the Quran. As such, ? ? (ati-ullaha) would mean ?follow Allah?s law?. In the same way, whatever takes place in the universe, takes place according to Allah?s law. The world of meta-physics and this world too (alamamar, alamehkhalq ) are ruled by this law. These laws have been made as He wished them to be, and they work under his control and authority. This is the ? ? (sunnatul Allah), way of Allah which undergoes no changes. (The details can be seen under the heading (Sh-Y-A). The Quran is the sum of Allah?s attributes, Allah?s laws, Allah?s orders, Allah?s Tact, Allah?s guidance, etc. All His teachings have a central point which is His Oneness or "wahdaniya". That is to announce that nothing except God?s rule is Supreme in the universe.So far as His composition or form is concerned, that is beyond our grasp because we are all finite and no finite can comprehend the infinite. However, while remaining within our mental limits, we can have some idea about Him from His 99 attributes. According to the Quran, the correct Belief is that which is according to the requirements in the Quran. Those who believe in God according to their own interpretation are not Believers, as per the Quran. This is a very important point and must be clearly understood. "God worship? and ?virtuous actions? is only right, if done according to the Quran and not according to what different people, nation or religion thinking.

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                            Now i'm not a expert of arabic language (frankly i am poor on this skill) so i leave to those who have good skills on the language used by Allah/God (SWTAY) in Al-Quran.

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