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    Wakas
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    Here is what I know about your translations so far

    1. you frequently change your translations

    All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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      bkanwar2
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      Dear Wakas, what is it with this approach that you feel is wrong? Is getting closer to the real meaning/truth should be more important or ones ego? I will not stop in changing until I am reasonably certain of being close to the truth.

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        Mazhar
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        How you define ? Please list few such verbs for understanding what you perceive from them.

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          bkanwar2
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          How you define ? Please list few such verbs for understanding what you perceive from them.

          These are verbs of mind or acts of mind. The biggest act of mind to analyze information received. The tool used for this analysis is named as rationale.

          Some examples of other verbs belonging to this category are,

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            Mazhar
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            These are verbs of mind or acts of mind. The biggest act of mind to analyze information received. The tool used for this analysis is named as rationale.

            Some examples of other verbs belonging to this category are,

            Then every act is done by mind. Can you raise your hand without your mind issuing command for it to motor nerves in your neck?

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              imrankhawaja
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              peace guys ,

              this word appears in 6 different places as per corpus. 2246, 2437, 3310,4018, 1328, 2232

              it appears all translators interpret as hearts(organ) in plural form

              @brother mazhar i have a question
              about is it a quranic word ? or just daily spoken arabic?
              i actually wanted to know more about this

              God bless you all

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                bkanwar2
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                Then every act is done by mind. Can you raise your hand without your mind issuing command for it to motor nerves in your neck?

                Mazhar please check the difference between, brain and mind. What you are pointing out is a function of brain. All animals are capable of raising their hand.. However, they can't have a discussion like we are having. This is because we have minds. By having this discussion we also happen to be exercising mind's function which only humans are capable of carrying out.

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                  Mazhar
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                  What makes you think animals don't have minds?

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                    bkanwar2
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                    What makes you think animals don't have minds?

                    Mazhar, I know you know Urdu. Hence, I am going to use a word of Urdu so that you can understand meanings of English word mind. Mind in Urdu means Aql. You tell me one animal who is even close to humans as being Ahle-e-Aql. We both will know the answer.

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                      Mazhar
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                      What makes you think animals are void of Aql? Level of aql is not the issue; even among humans level of aql or intellect varies.

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        i was watching in tv. a dolphin was doing math lol
                        monkey was riding bicycle
                        pigeons used for courier services

                        when an animal felt danger they run away

                        aqal mandi = wisdom
                        aqal = intellect
                        aqal = intelligence
                        aqal = mind? or ( when we say "mind your language&quot mind your head when something is smaller in height or we say dnt mind plz?

                        usually in urdu people translate mind = damag on other words brain when we use in daily life we say
                        are u out of your mind = tumhara damag kaharab ho gaya hai

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                          The_Sardar
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                          Mazhar, I know you know Urdu. Hence, I am going to use a word of Urdu so that you can understand meanings of English word mind. Mind in Urdu means Aql. You tell me one animal who is even close to humans as being Ahle-e-Aql. We both will know the answer.

                          Have you seen this? https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSZs7H24UY

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                            bkanwar2
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                            Have you seen this? https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=owSZs7H24UY

                            That is your proof that an elephant is equal to in mental capacities of a human? Indeed most have a mind of this level and their ability to use rationale to be even less than this. Hence, so much difficult to grab the concepts presented even with evidence.

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                              The_Sardar
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                              That is your proof that an elephant is equal to in mental capacities of a human? Indeed most have a mind of this level and their ability to use rationale to be even less than this. Hence, so much difficult to grab the concepts presented even with evidence.

                              You said You tell me one animal who is even close to humans as being Ahle-e-Aql. And brother Imran also said

                              i was watching in tv. a dolphin was doing math lol
                              monkey was riding bicycle
                              pigeons used for courier services

                              when an animal felt danger they run away

                              aqal mandi = wisdom
                              aqal = intellect
                              aqal = intelligence
                              aqal = mind? or ( when we say "mind your language&quot mind your head when something is smaller in height or we say dnt mind plz?

                              usually in urdu people translate mind = damag on other words brain when we use in daily life we say
                              are u out of your mind = tumhara damag kaharab ho gaya hai

                              So if i am missing something, i think it answer your question. There is even animals saving lives like this one examplehttps//www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMtSxYaP5Go Don't know if it's a great example.

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                                imrankhawaja
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                                i was watching a video in which bulls save their kid from lions and they properly start fighting with lions

                                height of courage

                                the video maker awarded by an award for making that video

                                i myself never encounter a video like this in which mother along with companions save the kid from certain death with the permission of God

                                the most intresting part was one lion get harm badly hahahaha what a move i really love that video

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