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Can you miss God?

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    Green_Leaves
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    Some things you just take for granted the rain cycle,the sunlight,the foods we eat,our immune systems ,white cells red cells e.t.c? that help our recovery ? all these sought of things are just taken for granted.

    Not to sound "mean" towards God, but these are basic things that IMO God was obligated to give us when creating us. If God had no plans of giving... say white blood cells to us, then why bother making us when our body would not have any immunity towards even a common cold?

    The sunlight, water, air, food are all good things, but those aren't even things that should be pointed as a big deal. As an example, think you got yourself a pet...because you bought it, its your responsibilty and obligation to feed it, take it to the vet, play with it. You can't simply say I am doing the pet a favor by feeding it...if you do, then why did you get it in the first place? That was your obligation towards your pet. Same with God, if God made us, then it was an obligation towards God to provide us with these basic things because without food, we would've started to death and who made our bodies such way that we die without food? God did. So, there's my point. Hope I made sense...

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      I hope I did not sound "mean" towards God...it was just another way of looking at things. Just my expression, that's all.

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        Salaams greenleaves,Nadia,

        I think greanleaves even a pet recognises and comes running to you , the master ,when you call him and cuddles you/your legs e.t.c but we on the other hand have been given much more then what a pet is given - once we are mature i think - so i am sure you will agree we must try and do a lot more then simply what a pet does , don't you think.

        God has given us total freedom ,which is a big thing in itself.

        Salaams all.

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          Same with God, if God made us, then it was an obligation towards God to provide us with these basic things because without food, we would've started to death and who made our bodies such way that we die without food? God did. So, there's my point. Hope I made sense...

          Peace bro

          heres the difference and why your pet analogy doesn't work for me.....

          your buy the pet - you dont create it.

          Whilst the buying of a pet implies a contract upon you, like so many implicit and explicit contracts you enter into as part of your social life, the act of creation does not imply any contract on the part of the creator.

          The painter has no duty towards the painting.... but the painting might concievably be grateful for having been painted.

          Allah is the bestower of forms and he has no 'duty' towards you. However we do have a duty towards our Creator as 5156-57 makes clear

          "And I have not created the jinn and the men except that they should serve Me. I do not desire from them any sustenance and I do not desire that they should feed Me."

          Its only by knowing yourself as a created thing that this becomes acceptable to the human mind. You mustnt think of God as 'busy' - respectfully its a meaningless term when applied to the One. He created the whole of everything that ever was and will be....

          4633 Have they not seen that Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth and was not wearied by their creation, is Able to give life to the dead? Aye, He verily is Able to do all things.

          God is never busy - he is without limit and his capacity to act is without limit. We however are defined by out limits. And our limited ability to understand and percieve the nature of creation is part of the way Allah tests us in our behaviour and responses to this life. Just my thoughts on the subject. But thanks for bringing it up. Post the tsunami many people are having to reflect on its meaning and how they understand their faith.... god bless

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            Peace be upon you Green Leaves,

            Your avatars continue to inspire me!

            The God is Near, in that He flows through us. We SERVE the God. We are vehicles that the one consciousness uses for EXPERIENCES. Isn't the best attainment in life JOY (from being at PEACE)? The God is the one who SEES, while you think it is your person (per-sona=conveyer of sound)

            THink this way, each of our cells in our body are a seperate being with its own needs, the nourishment of one cell does not feed the rest. What if a cell thought is was "far away" from the human and started to do its own thing? Well, we call those cancers. Instead of getting oxygen from the blood as the rest do, it tries to get it from sugar. That is why there is no cancer in muscles, because they are high in oxygen. When our circulation is cut off from blocks in the paths of the blood, the life giving oxygen does not get there, so they try to adapt to ANOTHER SOURCE to get oxygen.

            Cells that are NOURISHED PROPERLY work in unison to SERVE the One Being.

            I hope that similitude provided the correct vision to help your struggle.

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              cut reposting..

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                Peace be upon you,

                Yes, the pet analogy does not work because as you said, we do not create the pet, further, we do not blow of our Divine Energy/essence into the pet.

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                  Peace Green Leaves, all

                  What will happen when eventually you get what you want? Will you find another thing to want? When would that stop?

                  The god says that 1 good deed gives 10 times back, you should invest in that, you have better chances to get want you want. )

                  Sorry for aswering with questions.

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                    Peace Greenleaves

                    When you say God is watching our every move you make God sound like a member of the states department ? .

                    I believe you should think on exactly what the notion of God being one implies because if you do for sometime I am sure you will see how 'God is one' implies God is everywhere. I believe only we can seperate our selves from something that is everywhere by how we live. Just analyse your life and how you go about certain situations, bluntly put is your glass half full or half empty. In the trials you face do you see them as a dilemma or an oppurtunity to grow in patience, rerstraint, kindness, understanding or anything else that leads upwards? Find a constructive outlet for your problems.

                    I do not know if you noticed but your closing remarks read much like a poem, perhaps this 'seperation' you feel is there to bring to surface a dorment side of you?Is not the earth painfully tore open only to be filled with water? (ie God gives life to a dead earth; signs shock ) Can you fill a flat surface with anything?

                    Often (including Myself) we would rather have things go how we want them to because we only look at the pixel of the picture while God see's the whole picture, when you call on God do not tell God how to do what you want, God knows best rather ask God to grant you strength, patience, understanding or what not to bear through the current situation. How often do we listen to God?

                    This is just my words and thoughts, take them for what you can. Know there's diamonds even in dirt, try seeing that. ) In regards to life here's a quote from a movie I saw (I think it was called Catilac Moon) that is profound 'Don't sweat the small things, and everything is smallthings."

                    pz

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                      Green_Leaves
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                      Thanks all for your messages...its midterm time at college, so I wasn't able to fully read all of your posts, but God willing I will soon... before the finals pop up again. x

                      What will happen when eventually you get what you want? Will you find another thing to want? When would that stop?

                      Well, actually, I don't want anything from God. I've got everything I need and want, many thanks to God. Materially speaking, as a 20 year old, I am very very lucky because God has given me the best of things...and I am just a student who hasn't even started professional work yet! So, materially, I am a-okay D

                      My point was that though God tells us God is very near to us, why do I feel that God is not near, but very very far away? Maybe its just that I am not getting enough sleep because of my exams that I feel this way, huh?

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