We see "Messengers" in this forum? O_O
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While the Qur'an says to Obey the Messenger and not obey the MESSAGE. If obeying the messenger is same as obeying the message (Quran) then why would God didn't use the word "MESSAGE" directly?
So brother how do you obey Allah? and how do you obey the rasool?
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So brother how do you obey Allah? and how do you obey the rasool?
I have a much more interesting question...
If Allah = True God
And, True God is all powerful and nothing can happened without in accordance to His will and Plan
Then
How can anyone or anything 'disobey' the True God?
And act NOT in accordance to His will and Plan? -
jafar, GOD s will and plan also includes the allocated time for you, me and everyone else to shape their destiny through their own choices and decisions. GOD has made that promise to all of us
Do whatever you will/want ,GOD is seer of everything you do.
Whoever wants...and whoever wants ...
Just because GOD is powerful and all knowing, GOD also keeps a promise not to force people against their choices/decisions.
As far as we are concerned, even though some think we have no choice in being humans, (I think we accepted this/Amana),we are making our own choices and decisions.
As far as GOD is concerned, everything conforms to HIs will and plan.
jafar brother, a clear example is yourself, GOD is not stopping you undermining/criticising Qoran.
Best of luck to you on your choices and decisions.
GOD bless you.
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As far as GOD is concerned, everything conforms to HIs will and plan.
jafar brother, a clear example is yourself, GOD is not stopping you undermining/criticising Qoran.
Best of luck to you on your choices and decisions.
GOD bless you.
Peace.The God who get frustrated, angry, can be disobeyed and be warred against it's not the monopoly of the Quran, such (dubious) concept also exist in the Bible and (especially) Torah.
Thus only the last part that I agree...
It's in accordance to God's plan that I did what I did and you did what you did.
It's in accordance to God's plan that I will do what I will do and you will do what you will do..
It's in accordance to God's plan that they did what they did and they will do what they will do..There is no way that The True God that controls EVERYTHING can be "Disobeyed" let alone "Be Warred Against".
Everything is in OBEDIENCE to God's will.. from a bacteria up to something as powerful as a black hole.
Although they might not realized it at all.... but it doesn't matter.That's being said; a PERSON or GROUP OF PEOPLE who CLAIMED that he / she is / they are the sole representative of the True God CAN be "Disobeyed" and "Be Warred Against". And their 'claiming' action is also in accordance to God's will and plan.
God was, is and will always bless everyone and everything... regardless of their social identity, form or species.
Peace
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jafar, GOD does not have negative traits. GOD may be disappointed at some folks not seeking His mercy and forgiveness, but His system is set in stones
Each soul deserves what it gets through their own choices.
GOD s justice as well as mercy are also part of His will and plan.
God will neither gain nor loose from souls wickedness or goodness . GOD has no needs.
Or do you think GOD gains from those who believe or disbelieve?
Lucky are those created. and more lucky are those who choose GOD s system/kingdom.
jafar brother, you are mixing your books and interpretations of GOD s words. Your understanding of Qoran, in my opinion, comes from men s words.
GOD bless you.
Peace.