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But i am not sure about that, i have check the root word and it says different from your research, (Not saying multiple gods, only one.) you have seen my previous replies about the root word of Allah have you? If not then please check them out because i do not wish to over-repeat myself.
There is no one root that can explain written text of word Allah. There is never ever a plausible linguistic explanation given by any traditionalists that can explain all orthographic structure of Allah. Hence, please ponder upon the explanation that I have shared. Take your time.
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There is no one root that can explain written text of word Allah. There is never ever a plausible linguistic explanation given by any traditionalists that can explain all orthographic structure of Allah. Hence, please ponder upon the explanation that I have shared. Take your time.
Actually i share non-traditionalists explanation like Lughaat-Al-Quran (Parvez) & Al-Maany. Lane's Lexicon i am not sure if his lexical meanings are 100% non-traditional but it is very detailed.
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Yet you're trying to understand the word Allah by root definitions.
You are provided with full detailed explanation that you are unable to refute even at one step with linguistic rules, except with your counter explanation that you can't defend even at one step linguistically. Yet you keep arguing. It seems like a lost cause that Muslims will ever be able to perceive correct knowledge.
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I've defended everything I've said. But we enter circular reasoning because there's no more to add.
Your so-called detailed explanation doesn't even contain any comprehensible information and it does absolutely not make any sense linguistically at all. This is nothing I consider "correct knowledge". What kind of intelligent information is "not an object of worship" based on some word which isn't even there. I've refuted you ten times over.
However, (Al-Laheh) is perfectly plausible linguistically and this I've defended linguistically and it's based on how Arabic grammar works. I've said the word is an anomaly within Arabic linguistics and it is a remarkable phenomenon and probably made as an exaggeration of the plain to show a point.
It is only you who is doing circular argument. One final time please give straight answers to following simple question.
- What is the root for ?
- What is the meaning of or its root?
Please don't keep going in circles and waste mutual time. I have asked you these questions repeatedly and you keep dogging every-time.
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- What is the root for ?
- What is the meaning of or its root?
Salam/Peace Manny is not here but i think i have unknowingly showed the answer in page 8 in this discussion topic, check my 77th reply.
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Are you stupid, bkanwar2? Because I'm seriously beginning to wonder.
I said is not a root but a grammatical compound based on Lam and Heh, occurs in Arabic relatively frequently and it's something you can observe. Place on this and you get and the meaning together brings "the (like) to him/her/it". Of course this isn't standard knowledge because it's digging into linguistics and morphology.
is basically the only distinguishable root word in it to find the meaning for.
- Please cite a reference from an accepted Grammar book for this construct of . Nothing in any language that is said is meaningless. What is the meaning of ? Also cite another reference from Quran for ?
- what is the meaning of this root. What is the meaning of all these alphabet together as written? How do you get to these meanings. Give linguistically explanation without using a reference to hearsay, either be of Hadith/history or any other traditional accounts?
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- Please cite a reference from an accepted Grammar book for this construct of . Nothing in any language that is said is meaningless. What is the meaning of ? Also cite another reference from Quran for ?
- what is the meaning of this root. What is the meaning of all these alphabet together as written? How do you get to these meanings. Give linguistically explanation without using a reference to hearsay, either be of Hadith/history or any other traditional accounts?
You did check out my last comment did you?
Salam/Peace Manny is not here but i think i have unknowingly showed the answer in page 8 in this discussion topic, check my 77th reply.
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You did check out my last comment did you?
You mean to say this
https//www.almaany.com/en/dict/ar-en/%D9%84%D9%87/?c=IslamicSo I should accept Manny and his website as an authority? Where explanation ignores all linguistic rules establish centuries ago by Arab linguists. This is clearly an apologetic response and explanation to defend tradition. This is what really is a circular logic and an appeal to a faulty authority fallacy in arguments.
Why can't he answer my questions in simple English here?
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You mean to say this
https//www.almaany.com/en/dict/ar-en/%D9%84%D9%87/?c=IslamicSo I should accept Manny and his website as an authority? Where explanation ignores all linguistic rules establish centuries ago by Arab linguists. This is clearly an apologetic response and explanation to defend tradition. This is what really is a circular logic and an appeal to a faulty authority fallacy in arguments.
Why can't he answer my questions in simple English here?
Where did i say to accept Manny & the website as an authority? My point was to hopefully answer your question.
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So I should accept Manny and his website as an authority? Where explanation ignores all linguistic rules establish centuries ago by Arab linguists. This is clearly an apologetic response and explanation to defend tradition. This is what really is a circular logic and an appeal to a faulty authority fallacy in arguments.
Why can't he answer my questions in simple English here?
Which Arab linguists? If i recall correctly, most of the linguists of Arabic language is Persian. If i made a mistake then please correct me.
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Which Arab linguists? If i recall correctly, most of the linguists of Arabic language is Persian. If i made a mistake then please correct me.
First of all, does one need to be born in a given lineage to be able to become and expert in the language of that lineage?
Please try to read about History of Arabic linguistic tradition.
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First of all, does one need to be born in a given lineage to be able to become and expert in the language of that lineage?
Please try to read about History of Arabic linguistic tradition.
Any books of PDF that you know? Make sure it's non biased of course.
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First of all, does one need to be born in a given lineage to be able to become and expert in the language of that lineage?
Actually no but that wasn't my point. You said Arab linguists, i thought you were referring to the linguistics experts in Arabic language who were of Arab descent.
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For starter look through following.
https//eprints.soas.ac.uk/5814/1/Shah.pdf
There is also this
chrome-extension//oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https//www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/The%20source%20of%20all%20the%20languages.pdf
chrome-extension//oemmndcbldboiebfnladdacbdfmadadm/https//www.alislam.org/topics/arabic/English%20traced%20to%20Arabic.pdf
Keep in mind this was made by an Ahmadiyyan sectarian but you can ignore his pages on the Ahmadiyya sect and move on to linguistic pages.
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Open the writing called Quran and look yourself. It doesn't require any presentation, if you master Arabic. I don't do any work for you with your attitude.
Please remember when one present an argument about a claim. One should be ready to back it up with evidence to support ones claim. As without evidence it just a claim. With good evidence it might get to the level of knowledge.
Thanks for interacting anyways. Best of luck to you in your future endeavors.
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Please remember when one present an argument about a claim. One should be ready to back it up with evidence to support ones claim. As without evidence it just a claim. With good evidence it might get to the level of knowledge.
Thanks for interacting anyways. Best of luck to you in your future endeavors.
Not being rude but you should check The Quran to for yourself. Because there are fellow muslims saying that The Quran has its own dictionary within. Again not being rude.
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So for me A'qum Al-salawat means to follow straight or firmly follow, or something along the lines. The often occuring Wa atawoo al-zakat adds "and be brought to purification".
I'm not religious at all, I'm not worshiping and I'm not even worshiping myself. I don't expect Quran to be a religious book either but something which helps me grow personally, like a kind of self-development guide. I do believe in a supernatural realm with some difficult-to-fathom core which is usually called God, but God's so much more than a primitive deity who's super-instinctive and who is gonna torture everyone who's too blind to see the truth or who choose to believe in themselves and their own ability.
Dude i agree with you. Allah/God is so much better than that. The religious or traditionalist are framing our Creator into something ridiculous. And i agree with about you Salat. Manny_E are you my twin?! yay D
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Peace Manny_E.
It all depends what is intelligence and how does one get it?Is it productive to create humans that corrupt the earth and create hell on it? Yet humans are on earth (To some it is like hell) and living on it!
Who s to say what is hell that is going to be created and what creation/s will be on it?As for your salat ,make sure you prepare for it(56) and you get your timing right? Or may be there is no preparation for it or timing?
GOD bless you.
Peace.
