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    bkanwar2
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    He translated a third person masculine verb and not noun which is in ayah.

    I have already corrected my mistake above.

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      Mazhar
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      I have already corrected my mistake above.

      That correction has rendered the newly attempted sentence incorrect.

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        bkanwar2
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        He translated a third person masculine verb and not noun which is in ayah.

        And common sense about Min is that to consider it "from or among", the following word should be plural.

        Thanks for the red above. Please see below re-posting edited translation from above. Don't you see plural.

        Surah 1131

        I seek protection from any authoritative mind controlling concept that brings low character. After using your rationale express,

        Surah 1132

        It has never been consistent with natural disposition to be among wrongdoers, unjust, corrupt and wicked.

        Surah 1133

        Observe carefully, as darkness from following of wrongdoers, unjust, corrupt and wicked sets upon people.

        Surah 1134

        Then the enchanters from following of wrongdoers, unjust, corrupt and wicked will keep putting complicating twist into it.

        Surah 1135

        Observe carefully, it is envied to be following wrongdoers, unjust, corrupt and wicked as desirous.

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          bkanwar2
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          He translated a third person masculine verb and not noun which is in ayah.

          Mazhar are you saying that English word "wrongdoer" is not a noun? Also English words used in translation, "unjust, corrupt and wicked" all are adjectives in English but are considered nouns in Arabic. Arabic has no category for words called adjectives in English, these are categorized under noun.

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            Mazhar
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            Mazhar are you saying that English word "wrongdoer" is not a noun? Also English words used in translation, "unjust, corrupt and wicked" all are adjectives in English but are considered nouns in Arabic. Arabic has no category for words called adjectives in English, these are categorized under noun.

            Active participles (derived from verb) are nouns. And they are formed on set patterns. "Sharr" is NOT active participle which you translate "wrongdoer".

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              Mazhar
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              Thanks for the red above. Please see below re-posting edited translation from above. Don't you see plural.

              But you translate making yourself blind to original text. Where is plural in original text?

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                Active participles (derived from verb) are nouns. And they are formed on set patterns. "Sharr" is NOT active participle which you translate "wrongdoer".

                Let me edit based upon your objection/suggestion as follows, are you happy now?

                Surah 1131

                I seek protection from any authoritative mind controlling concept that brings low character. After using your rationale express,

                Surah 1132

                It has never been consistent with natural disposition to be in wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness.

                Surah 1133

                Observe carefully, as darkness of follower of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness sets upon people.

                Surah 1134

                Then the enchanters of follower of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness will keep putting complicating twist into it.

                Surah 1135

                Observe carefully, envied is follower of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness as desirous.

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                  Mazhar
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                  Still meaningless.

                  from any authoritative mind controlling concept

                  Are you seeking protection from it or you are seeking some protection to safeguard yourself from it.

                  The thing from the harm of which you wish to be safeguarded is called "asset". If it is asset then from whom you want to have shelter/shield to protect you.

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                    bkanwar2
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                    Still meaningless.

                    Are you seeking protection from it or you are seeking some protection to safeguard yourself from it.

                    The thing from the harm of which you wish to be safeguarded is called "asset". If it is asset then from whom you want to have shelter/shield to protect you.

                    Seeking protection from any authoritative mind controlling concept Rabb, leading to bad character/calamity Falaq, by using rationale Qul.

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                      Thanks Mazhar, I have further edited as follows, mainly verse number 1.

                      Surah 1131

                      After using your rationale express, I hate any authoritative mind controlling concept that brings low character.

                      Surah 1132

                      It has never been consistent with natural disposition to be in wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness.

                      Surah 1133

                      Observe carefully, as darkness of follower of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness sets upon people.

                      Surah 1134

                      Then the enchanters of follower of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness will keep putting complicating twist into it.

                      Surah 1135

                      Observe carefully, envied is follower of wrongdoing, injustice, corruption and wickedness as desirous.

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