Reading Numbers in Strange Way
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I posted this in a provocative way, I know.
But, I liked the reaction of both savage_carrot and burhan_21. Thanks.
Peace,
Edip -
Peace Edip
I know, now idolfree, KGB, or another jealous "reader" will go click and post something there to spoil my reading cry
I do not see the point of this, as they would say in a western "them's fighting words.' My thoughts do not seal your heart from seen the whole person.
Question 1 Con Anyone, besides the competitor "readers", read 13 and 2005 ?
Rhetorical?
Question 2 I am curious about the number of hate mails I will receive from innumerate "readers" and numerate readers, alike.
Curiosity killed the cat. ?
Question 3 Is interpreating dreams more reliable than interpreting numbers in superstitious way?
What exactly do you mean by superstition?
I do not see anything wrong with interperating situations what ever they may be, that is how we understand.
Question 4 When this kinds of "reading" is okay and when it is harmful?
I don't exactly think a reading can be harmful, it's rather the person who can make something harmful. And what is ok is up to the reader them self since everyone is their own law (ie one may be allergic to peanuts while another may not).
pz
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Curiosity killed the cat.
Thanks for your imput, khalil.
If I was a curious cat I would be dead, not nine times but thousands times, by now wink
Peace,
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Peace Khalil, you are right. You got it.
Indeed, I posted this for experimentation. To get some reaction. Positive or negative. To know people and how their mind works. To see how some see the positive and ignore the negative and how some see the negative and ignore the positive side.. As I said, I am very curious.
Peace,
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Idolfree or KGB are oppositing your numbers cult worship not you or Layth personally. The opposition is against creating a new sect to promote code 19 and Rashad Al Khalifah Messengership.
I now know that Layth is Saudi and got more information about yourself from your websites which if I analyze logically will create hue and cry as personal attacks so I am holding it back.
What difference it makes that KGB and Idolfree are opposing the wrong concept, just go ahead atleast I will oppose your cult and Rashad Al Khalifah Messengership.
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Peace be upon you Edip,
I did not understand what you are asking. So I will wait for a clarification to respond to anything in that post, but I will say this, I love mathematics, when you can see how everything is based on strict laws that can be reduced to mathematics, like chemistry (periodic table) etc, then you know that you can find your way. But I realize that there are more numbers than just "19".
Regarding Matrix, I would love to discuss it with you.
Lastly, I wonder why you refused to discuss the important topic of salaat, but have so much time to post "provacative" posts.
It was told to me over and over again that you were someone who was always listening for a better understanding, but when I presented the oppurtunity to discuss such an understanding, you ignored my posts, then when I continued to ask, you said you were just too busy. Thats fine, but it appears that you are not really that busy.
But of course, theres always time to defend god old "19"
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Edip Yuksel keep posting you are the only entertainment on the forum.
One serious question Edip Yuksel.
Damon said that you 19ers cult follow the living prophet instead of dead Prophet Muhammad (SAW). I requested Damon to explain this to me how you claim to be following living prophet when your Messenger Rashad Al Khalifa is dead.
Edip Yuksel are you the present living Messenger of 19ers?
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Edip...
Why waste your time on this forum which is anything but "Free-Minded"
Most of the ppl here have fallen down in submission to the old God and a stupid faith Islam, and want to prohibit anything that is good and healthy.
I see that most people here are anything but an 'anglicized' version of Sunnis, and promote the same old faith and medieval ways of thinking.
I mean the medieval way of thinking which is forever afraid of all natural causes, and translating Man back into his natural instinct.
'Nuff said. Even Hesiod and Homer are far more truthful than our God-only-Believers and their superstitions. I have far more faith in Greek and Persians of antiquity- at least they were courageous and spoke honestly
-Nishat
The Devil has the widest perspectives for God, as the Devil is the oldest friend of knowledge
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Salaam Nishat,
Most of the ppl here have fallen down in submission to the old God and a stupid faith Islam, and want to prohibit anything that is good and healthy.
You are currently not promoting anything good and healthy by telling people their system is stupid. Still I wonder what you have in mind that's not good and healthy.
'Nuff said. Even Hesiod and Homer are far more truthful than our God-only-Believers and their superstitions.
Which superstitions are these? Have you forgotten 1736 in your departure from belief, which you have been shaken in for a while, Nishat?
Joe
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Salaam All,
Does anyone else wish the bickering stopped? Or is it me? cry
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Peace Ash,
I'm with you. If one has a choice between saying something negative or saying nothing at all, I've learned silence is golden. The one aspect of unity that is often overlooked is the effect even the subtlest nuances have on the whole. This works both negatively and positively.
Folks should take a moment to reflect before they hit that Submit button. I can't tell you how many times I've cancelled an entire post after reading it over and thinking about it's consequences.
May peace be upon you,
Tay -
Peace be upon you all,
There is a time for leaving with "Peace" and a time for Debate. Abraham had nothing good to say about the idols of his fathers, and he did not remain silent. Musa did not remain silent. Shuiab did not remain silent.
But as the debate goes on, those who reject and the hypocites reveal themselves by what they say. Is there evidence in thier posts, which is the description of "hajja", or is there just emotional responses and attacks, descriptive of "jidala"(arguing).
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Peace Kyle,
Not that my opinion is even necessary, I'll share it for clarification.
My beef is not with you, although, now that I think about it, I do feel you're beating a dead horse in bringing up the fact that Edip has chosen not to debate about Salat. You've mentioned it numerous times and whatever effect it was going to have, it's done with.
With that said, I respect the fact that you are, more often than not, objective in your approach and firm in your convictions, yet open-minded enough to rethink them when it's called for. It's an admirable recipe of qualities that I often find myself impressed by.
But to the heart of the matter, my beef is with the following chain of events...
KGB
Damon said that you 19ers cult follow the living prophet ...
Nishat
Why waste your time on this forum which is anything but "Free-Minded" Most of the ppl here have fallen down in submission to the old God and a stupid faith Islam
KGB
Old God and Stupid Faith Islam? Who is the new God of 19ers? What exactly is the Smart Faith Islam?
These comments are filled with insults, sarcasm, and innuendo, and hence, are escalating with venom. There is absolutely zero gain for anyone involved or witnessing. In fact, what is spreading is negativity.
I just think people should ask themselves why they're stating what they're stating before they go ahead and post. I fall victim to impulsive responses as well, and if I don't check myself, I hope someone else will put me in check. That's what family is for, right?
May peace be upon you,
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Salaam Aleikum Tay,
The questions raised is not sacrasm, it is curosity which makes me post those question. I really want to know what is New God? I really want to know what is the smart modern Islam is? I really want to know how could you follow the living prophet? All the prophets were men and mortal who are dead. The Aga Khanis following the living Imam who is reincarnation of Imam Ali and the shadow of god and it would be interesting to know the answers to the question which I have raised.
Keeping quite for the sake of unity. Unity with the people promoting code 19 as miracle and Rashad Al Khalifah as last messenger who are guilty of deleting two verses from Qur'an. I can't unite with any of the groups formed on the basis of fabricated hadiths or manipulating Qur'an verses.
The other reason for not keeping quite is that if you say something wrong over and over again it becomes the truth so I have to refute it whenever it is said. The people did not stand up against these fabricated hadiths which has become the essential part of faith had the people of that time fought the wrong concept the story would be different.
It is unnecessary to copy and paste the verses as the reference beause I believe that you all know the message very well.37 He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book In it are verses basic or fundamental (of established meaning); they are the foundation of the Book others are allegorical. But those in whose hearts is perversity follow the part thereof that is allegorical, seeking discord, and searching for its hidden meanings, but no one knows its hidden meanings except God. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say "We believe in the Book; the whole of it is from our Lord" and none will grasp the Message except men of understanding.
Just follow the clear message and everything would be fine.
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Peace KGB,
I have no problem whatsoever with anyone questioning anyone else, on any grounds. What I have a problem with is disguised or open insult. Key words such as cult do nothing for building bridges of understanding. In fact, they have the opposite effect. Check any thread on this forum and view the evidence. Whenever there is a peaceful disagreement, it stays that way. Whenever insults are included, the insults escalate and mulitply and the debate goes downhill, completely fruitless, and ends.
No offense intended. It's just the way I see it.
Peace,
Tay