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...But I want to wear hijab anyways?

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    Nomar
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    Salam.

    Have you considered the verse below as part of the dress code, especially when the question on how long the garment should be?

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    It was said to her ?Enter the palace.? So when she saw it she thought there was a pool, and she uncovered her legs. He said ?It is a palace paved with crystal.? She said ?My Lord, I have wronged myself; and I submit with Solomon to God, Lord of the worlds.?

    Thanks!

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      The_Sardar
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      Salam.

      Have you considered the verse below as part of the dress code, especially when the question on how long the garment should be?

      2744
      It was said to her ?Enter the palace.? So when she saw it she thought there was a pool, and she uncovered her legs. He said ?It is a palace paved with crystal.? She said ?My Lord, I have wronged myself; and I submit with Solomon to God, Lord of the worlds.?

      Thanks!

      Don't you think that when Sheba uncovered her legs when she thought there was a pool, she didn't her dress get wet.

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        The_Sardar
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        Wait let me fix that grammar error

        Don't you think that when Sheba uncovered her legs when she thought there was a pool, she didn't want her dress to get wet.

        There you go.

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          Nomar
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          Interesting.

          So when Sheba says I have wrong myself she is actually referring to her thinking the floor was a pool; not her exposing her legs before a man.

          So then it goes without saying that lengthening the garments does not have to reach down and cover the legs?

          Thank you.

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            NewFrenzy
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            Interesting.

            So when Sheba says I have wrong myself she is actually referring to her thinking the floor was a pool; not her exposing her legs before a man.

            So then it goes without saying that lengthening the garments does not have to reach down and cover the legs?

            Thank you.

            She wronged herself by worshipping the sun.ok

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              Cerberus
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              Interesting.
              So when Sheba says I have wrong myself she is actually referring to her thinking the floor was a pool; not her exposing her legs before a man.
              So then it goes without saying that lengthening the garments does not have to reach down and cover the legs?

              So what are the odds here

              Queen of Sabaa says I have wronged myself because
              1- She thought the floor was a pool and it turned out it was crystal. Whoops.
              2- She exposed her hairy legs to a man.
              3- She lived her whole life worshiping god knows who, doing god knows what.

              Hmmmm

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                HP_TECH
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                Why would you wear hijab in front of your family?

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                  hawk99
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                  Salam everyone .
                  I converted to Islam 2 years ago, followed the Sunni ways, and started to wear the headscarf I then took it off after 4 months of wearing when I stumbled upon Quran-alone websites and realized I did not find it to be prescribed in the Quran. At this point, I did not have any problems with wearing the hijab, but after some conversing with my husband, I became convinced that by continuing to wear it, I was showing a false image of Islam.

                  At this point, I can see both sides -- I find myself convinced by both the evidences that it is and is not required, although I tend to find the evidences that it is not required

                  Also I struggle with the fear that if I wear it, I'm adding a restriction where Allah did not put one - but this situation seems much like the fact that I try to maintain a vegetarian/vegan diet, in which I restrict myself of meats that Allah did not restrict us from because I believe it might be better health-wise for me, even though I acknowledge that these meats are still lawful.

                  Peace bls381, You pretty much answered your own question

                  1. I stumbled upon Quran-alone websites and realized I did not find it to be prescribed in the Quran.

                  2. I became convinced that by continuing to wear it, I was showing a false image of Islam.

                  I understand that you want to belong to the community at large and wearing
                  the hijab helps you to fit in, so maybe you can find a compromise between the two.

                  peace

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                    NewFrenzy
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                    whatever

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                      bls381
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                      Thank you all for your responses, I appreciate them. I've been praying about it for several months now, asking God to increase my desire to wear a scarf if it is good for me, or decrease my desire if it is best not to cover, and my desire has only gotten stronger. But how is one to determine whether a feeling is from oneself or from Allah? It's something I've been struggling with how to determine..

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                        Cerberus
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                        We don't determine right from wrong through feelings. Allah represents righteousness and to know and understand that one must use their mind. That's how we differ from animals.

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                          HP_TECH
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                          Peace

                          Listen not to those who take their names from pagans.

                          Rather hear this, if you asked Allah for a Sign then surely He responds to the supplication.
                          If you have received the Sign you prayed about, then act accordingly or if you are uncertain, then give charities, remain patient and ask for a distinct undeniable Sign. Then, when you receive it again do not entertain doubt and falter, but remain firm and glorify His Praises.

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                            TellMeTheTruth
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                            Salam Sister!

                            Here is what references I could share from Al-Quran. Root meanings are also given for ready reference/convenience). Hope it would be helpful for you in order to make a decision after you check and verify for yourself

                            Hijab is a screen/curtain inside a woman's house (Ref 3353). Wives/ of the Prophet (Peace be upon him) were supposed to talk to outsiders/non-family males behind such screen - exceptions for them are given in 3355. Hijab was also practiced by Maryam (mother of Isa A.S). It is not compulsory for other /believing women, however.

                            = Ha-Jiim-Ba = something which hinders/prevents/precludes/conceals/covers/protects/intervenes, hid, seclude, to veil/conceal/cover/hide a thing, intervene between two things.
                            hajaba vb. (1) pcple. pass. 8315
                            hijab n.m. 746, 1745, 1917, 3353, 3832, 415, 4251
                            Lane's Lexicon, Volume 2, page 151, 152 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=7jb

                            Mem/Women's dress/ should at least cover their private parts (726-27).
                            Wearing Scarf or Niqab or Burqa are additional to the women's dress. For /believing women, part of their head-cover or outer garment (extra garment in addition to the normal dress/&#1587 must cover their bosoms as per 2431. Exceptions are also mentioned in the same Ayah/.

                            = Lam-Ba-Siin = To wear/cover, put on a garment, be clothed in, envelop, conceal, conformed, cloak/disguise, that which is worn.
                            Obscure/confuse/confound, mystify, render a thing obscure and confused to another.
                            Employed/busied/occupied himself with/within a thing, become involved/entangled/complicated, to mix/mingle/accompany a thing.
                            labasa vb. (I)
                            perf. act. 69
                            impf. act. 242, 371, 665, 682, 6137
                            labs n.vb - 5015
                            labisa vb. (I) - 1614, 1831, 3512, 4453
                            labus n.m. - 2180
                            libas n.m. - 2187, 2187, 726, 726, 727, 16112, 2223, 2547, 3533, 7810]
                            LL, V7, p 175, 176 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=lbs

                            Kha-Miim-Ra = cover/conceal/veil, becoming changed/altered from a former state/condition, mixed/mingled/incorporated/blended, intoxication/wine/grapes, make-up, any intoxicating thing that clouds/obscures the intellect, come upon secretly/unexpectedly, crowding of people, odour of perfume, women's head cover, man's turban, a covering, something fermented/matured.
                            khamr n.fem. 2219, 590, 591, 1236, 1241, 4715
                            khumur n. masc. pl. 2431

                            ...and let them draw/set/cast (walyadribna) with their veils/covers (bikhumurihinna) over (AAala) their breasts/bosom (juyoobihinna)...
                            Lane gives some examples ?the dwelling was hidden by the trees?, ?he concealed his testimony?, "She (a woman) applied KhaMaRat as a linament, to beautify her complexion.".

                            "KhiMaR a woman's head-covering."
                            LL, V2, p 443, 444, 445, 446 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=xmr

                            Jiim-Lam-Ba-Ba = Woman's outer wrapping garment, that which envelopes the whole body, wide garment for a woman, dominion or sovereignty or rule.

                            jalabib (pl. of jilbab) 3359 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=JLBB

                            For me, the dress can be fashionable according to one's society or culture. Because I think that means to do things according to the known and acceptable standards of one's immediate society.
                            = Ayn-Ra-Fa = he knew it, had cognition of it, to discern, became acquainted with it, perceiving a thing by reflection and by consideration of the effect, he requited, to acknowledge a part, manager/orderer/overseer, become submissive/tractable/pleasant, the making to know, fragrant, to inform oneself, learn/discover, seek/desire knowledge, benefaction/goodness, mane (of a horse) waves (of the sea), elevated place/portion, higher/highest, first/foremost, a question or questioning respecting a subject of information in order to know it, commonly received/known, to confess/acknowledge/indicate, high mountain, Mount Arafat.
                            The difference between arafa & alima is that the former refers to distinct and specific knowledge, while the latter is more general. Opposite to arafa is ankara (to deny) and opposite ot alima is jahila (to be ignorant).
                            al araf - the elevated place, high dignity, distinguished position, place of discernment or acknowledgement, highest or most elevated faculties of discernment or ma'rifah (knowledge of right and wrong).
                            ma'ruf - honourable, known, recognised, good, befitting, fairness, kindness, custom of society, usage.

                            'arafaat (pl. of 'arafat, masculine 'araf, being a version of 'aarif, the active form of 'arafa and/or 'arfun, the informational noun of 'arafa) means 'familiarizations, approbations, recognitions.'

                            May Allah Bless all the truth seekers.

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