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What could 'Badr' mean in 3:123

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  • The_SardarT Offline
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    The_Sardar
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    Salam
    Will appreciate if some one can share opinions about 'Badr' in 3123. Does it have to be name of a place? Some other opinions I have heard are that it may mean 'Earlier on' or 'Full manifestation'.

    3123 وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

    Thanks

    Salam/Peace brother Ajzhyder.

    Ba-Dal-Ra = become full/grown/round/large (e.g. full moon), attained maturity, hastened/strove to be first, thing/event came/happened to him speedily, a place in which wheat/grain is trodden out.

    badr n. 3123

    bidar n.m. 46

    LL, V1, p 202, 203 ## http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=bdr

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      good_logic
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      Brother The Sardar.
      Is that Arabic copy of yours coming out weird or is my head still spinning from my last post in another thread?
      Anyway brother do not worry about it. I wish all my posts come out like that(Giberrish!) ,then I would be in Peace with myself.

      May be this is my punishment in this life! to come here and browse this forum?
      I mean brother Antitarzan has the right idea. but I am still browsing his earlier links. I am 5 years behind schedule there!
      A good job brother Thelastday3 is being easy on me,only posting every few days. I am also still working out some of that Maths of his.
      As for my posts,I advise folks in here to skip them if they find them extreme and boring. Actually I apologise to all readers for all the nonsense I have came up with in various threads!
      Also do not worry brother, I am not going to put the "head banging character" here.
      GOD bless you.
      Peace.

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        Noon_waalqalami
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        Will appreciate if some one can share opinions about 'Badr' in 3123. Does it have to be name of a place? Some other opinions I have heard are that it may mean 'Earlier on' or 'Full manifestation'.

        peace read ?in context? 3121-127 place of battle i.e. "in badr"

        places derive names from characteristic, attribute, aspect, etc.

        translation https//i.postimg.cc/Sk3mmPKW/ch3v118-127.jpg

        https//corpuscoranicum.de/handschriften/index/sure/3/vers/123/handschrift/163

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          The_Sardar
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          Brother The Sardar.
          Is that Arabic copy of yours coming out weird or is my head still spinning from my last post in another thread?
          Anyway brother do not worry about it. I wish all my posts come out like that(Giberrish!) ,then I would be in Peace with myself.

          I have no idea what you mean by "Arabic copy".

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            huruf
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            Badr is the full moon

            so it may be tat when it shone made things easier for them enabling them to see the enemy more clearly and so overcome them.

            Salaam

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              good_logic
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              Peace The Sardar.
              Look at your reply 1. The verse you quoted in your quote ,I cannot read it. What language is that?
              GOD bless you.
              Peace.

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                The_Sardar
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                Peace The Sardar.
                Look at your reply 1. The verse you quoted in your quote ,I cannot read it. What language is that?
                GOD bless you.
                Peace.

                Odd. I didn't quote any verses. I think you mistook the verse numbers in the root word. That's PRL-Project Root List.

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                  good_logic
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                  Peace The Sardar.
                  This is how it appeared in your post
                  3123 وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ
                  What language is this?
                  GOD bless you.
                  Peace.

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                    The_Sardar
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                    Peace The Sardar.
                    This is how it appeared in your post
                    3123 وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ
                    What language is this?
                    GOD bless you.
                    Peace.

                    Arabic. It has the diacritics marks. Why you ask?

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                      Peace The Sardar.
                      Look at yours and look at this Arabic
                      Yours 3123 وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

                      Arabic 3123

                      I can read the second, I cannot read/understand yours. Please explain?
                      GOD bless you.
                      Peace

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                        The_Sardar
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                        Peace The Sardar.
                        Look at yours and look at this Arabic
                        Yours 3123 وَلَقَدْ نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدْرٍ وَأَنتُمْ أَذِلَّةٌ ۖ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُمْ تَشْكُرُونَ

                        Arabic 3123 وَلَقَد نَصَرَكُمُ اللَّهُ بِبَدرٍ وَأَنتُم أَذِلَّةٌ فَاتَّقُوا اللَّهَ لَعَلَّكُم تَشكُرونَ

                        I can read the second, I cannot read/understand yours. Please explain?
                        GOD bless you.
                        Peace

                        Oh that! That was not from me. That was from Ajzhyder. Check the first post of this topic.

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                          Anoushirvan
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                          Salam,

                          Badr means full force or full maturity, like a full moon, and fits perfectly in the context of verse 3123

                          3123 And certainly Allah helped you with "full force" while you were weak. So fear Allah so that you may be grateful

                          Badr as a battle in the Sira of Muhammad comes from the fact that the mythical battles of Muhammad (because I believe these battles never existed) are shaped on the battles of Yehoshua bin Nun (successor of Moses) in the Book of Joshua, and also the Books of Maccabees.

                          Thus, the first battle that Muhammad is supposed to have fought is at Badr, which means full moon as above, while the first battle of Yehoshua was at Jericho.
                          However in Hebrew, Jericho is Yeriho, which is assonance with another Hebrew word, yerah, and this word means...tada... full moon !!

                          There are other similarities, like the second battle of Muhammad at Uhud was a defeat, like the second one of Yehoshua before Ai.

                          Another similarity is borrowed from the Book of Maccabees. Thus Muhammad is supposed to have fled to Medina, like the Maccabees fled to Modin.

                          Why having done this ? Justify that Muhammad was the new Yehoshua (Joshua), i.e. the Messiah, or the Christ returned to Earth.

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                            good_logic
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                            Peace The Sardar.
                            You have done it again.
                            Look at my post 10 and look at your quote from good logic(post11).
                            My Arabic verse has changed into that gibberish writing again!
                            May be it is to do with your browser or something technical?
                            Honest ,it is not my head. It has stopped spinning/
                            GOD bless you.
                            Peace

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                              huruf
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                              Yes Sardar, your posts, I suppose, it is when you put in arabic text, appears as a ild orgy of different latin letters in all kinds of dressings like miicking several inerplanetary languages, I guess, but nothing that can be read. I thought you did it in purpose, but clearly I was too trusting on that. No I realise you were trying to put in arabic. No single arabic letter appears.

                              Salaam

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                                Yes Sardar, your posts, I suppose, it is when you put in arabic text, appears as a ild orgy of different latin letters in all kinds of dressings like miicking several inerplanetary languages, I guess, but nothing that can be read. I thought you did it in purpose, but clearly I was too trusting on that. No I realise you were trying to put in arabic. No single arabic letter appears.

                                Salaam

                                Huh i dont what is wrong then. You guys are making me a bit worried.

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                                  huruf
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                                  It may be just a little something that you have rong in some configuration. The informatic orld is full of things like mouses that come and go without noticing but which leave a trail of unwanted and misterious hapennings.

                                  Somewhere sometime as you go along you will discover.

                                  Salaam

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                                    Mazhar
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                                    Huh i dont what is wrong then. You guys are making me a bit worried.

                                    Relax. Nothing wrong. Font was not converted in your first post. Copy paste first post of the thread on Office page in your computer and see whether Arabic font appears. If not install the font on your computer.

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                                      The_Sardar
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                                      Relax. Nothing wrong. Font was not converted in your first post. Copy paste first post of the thread on Office page in your computer and see whether Arabic font appears. If not install the font on your computer.

                                      But i see the arabic text.

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                                        Mazhar
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                                        Salam
                                        Will appreciate if some one can share opinions about 'Badr' in 3123. Does it have to be name of a place? Some other opinions I have heard are that it may mean 'Earlier on' or 'Full manifestation'.

                                        3123

                                        Thanks

                                        Testing Result is okay. Let us forget it, some fault somewhere occurred earlier.

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