Could someone please explain following verse to me?
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There is no proof that claimed mount in Sina is toor mentioned in Quran. It all is based on supposition that bani Israeel were in "misr" which is named Egypt. Calling Misr as Egypt is inself very strange.
Misr is the original name; Western world mentions it as Egypt. Try finding Misr elsewhere in the World. Did GA Pervez found out Misr other than Egypt.
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I have found Pazuzu's text which settle the question of this aya and of all the events sourrounding it. It is long so I will but it by stages
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Where did Far?awn Drown?
The key to cracking this puzzle lies in our understanding of the word yamm which has been erroneously translated to mean sea. The Qurn, in certain passages, states that Far?awn and his henchmen drowned in the bar; while in other passages, it tells us that they perished in the yamm. Does this mean that the two words are synonymous? Absolutely not! There are no synonymous terms whatsoever in the eloquent tongue of the Qurn. The terms bar and yamm are derived from completely different roots, and hence cannot have the same meaning. So what is the solution then?We have already shown you that the word bar simply designates a large basin of abundant water. But what about yamm? Since there are no synonyms in the Qurnic text, the only possible explanation is that yamm is a description of this body of water. It is specifying what kind of bar it was that Far?awn drowned in. Hence bar is the general term, while yamm is the specific one. The relation between the two terms is comparable to the relation between the terms vehicle (general) and car (specific).
When Msa was born, his mother placed him in the yamm . The brainwashed commentators interpreted this yamm as the Nile River, without any proof whatsoever. When Far?awn drowned in the yamm, they interpreted it as the Sea of Reeds, just south of todays the Suez Canal. And when Msa threw the golden calf of the Smiriy in the yamm , they imagined it as a stream in the so-called ?Sinai Peninsula? (since they could not find a single river there). As you can see, they gave the same word three different interpretations - thus making a mockery of Allahs words - in order to make the story fit with the geography of Egypt.
The truth of the matter is that the word yamm has only one meaning; and this meaning is common to several of the so-called ?Semitic? languages, notably Arabic, Aramaic, and Syriac. It means a great, flowing stream of water. This word appears exclusively in the story of Msa, and has no other meaning. In fact, if you visit the regions of ?Aseer and Yemen (South Arabia) and ask the locals today what the word yamm means, they will unanimously tell you that it is a great stream which flows down a mountainside. Once the yamm reaches flat, open ground, it becomes a nahr (river). Such is the eloquence and precision of the Qurnic tongue.
Using this knowledge to give the word a consistent meaning in the Qurn, the story then becomes clear, and the puzzle is solved Msas mother placed him in a stream; Far?awn drowned in a stream, and the calf of the Smiriy was hurled into a stream. Far?awn did not drown in the Red Sea, as the Zionist propaganda would have us believe. He drowned in an inland body of water, somewhere in the Srat mountains of ancient Yemen.
The proof can be found in the following signs
{And We inspired to Moses ?Go forth with my servants, in secret. You will be followed? * So Farawn sent gatherers to the towns * ?They are but a small band. * And they have enraged us. * And we are all gathered and forewarned?. * So, We evicted them out of gardens and springs * And treasures and an honorable station * As such, We made the Children of Israel inherit it all * So they were pursued at sunrise * But when the two groups saw each other, the companions of Msa said ?We are caught!? * He said ?No, my Rabb is with me and He will guide me?. * So We inspired to Msa ?Strike forth towards the bar with conviction?. So it split into two, each side like a great cliff face * And We then brought the others
(the pursuers) near * And We saved Msa and all those with him *Then We drowned the others}.....The Israelites, led by Msa (P), fled Mir (a prominent walled citadel in ancient Yemen), at night. This is the essence of isr' (the departure from a place in secrecy, without attracting attention). It was not until after Far?awn realized the Israelites had left, that he gathered a party of hunters from the nearby villages, and launched a full pursuit of what he called ?a small band?. Would the great kings of Egypt, who lived in huge palaces with an army ready at their call, prepared to take on rival empires at any time, need to send callers to nearby villages to organize a search party? Would Ramses, Merneptah or Imhotep, personally take it upon themselves to chase a small band across the wilderness of Egypt? Furthermore, how far had Msa and the Israelites gone before Far?awn caught up to them? Let's think a bit the Qurn is telling us that Far?awn and his band moved faster than the Israelites, because despite the renegades head start, the pursuers were still able to gather themselves and catch up to them at dawn of the next day.
Then comes the critical part Allah tells us that the two parties reached a point where they were close enough to gaze upon each other {But when the two groups saw each other, the companions of Msa said ?We are caught!?}. The average width of the Sea of Reeds, the alleged crossing point, is around 25 kilometers (as shown in the map below). It would have been impossible for the two parties to see each other across that distance, taking into consideration the conditions (time and place) surrounding the event......
Salaam
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The truth of the matter is that the word yamm has only one meaning; and this meaning is common to several of the so-called ?Semitic? languages, notably Arabic, Aramaic, and Syriac. It means a great, flowing stream of water. This word appears exclusively in the story of Msa, and has no other meaning. In fact, if you visit the regions of ?Aseer and Yemen (South Arabia) and ask the locals today what the word yamm means, they will unanimously tell you that it is a great stream which flows down a mountainside. Once the yamm reaches flat, open ground, it becomes a nahr (river). Such is the eloquence and precision of the Qurnic tongue.
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a small, narrow river.
But since he is insisting that it means water flowing down from mountains, verb stream means "flow in a continuous current in a specified direction".Can one say so and so drowned in the flow of water? He naively fails to see the preposition used with the word.
People drown into the bed of a water reservoir; not in the water continuously flowing from mountains.
Water reservoir alternatively throws a body in the water to its bank. He further naively overlooks this
Has someone seen of water flowing down from mountains? Simply absurd thought.
Hence all his work is baseless and just a palaver,
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No, Pazuzu's work is very sound. You are stuck with your egyptian bible lore which may match your own whims and bible hadith, but which do not match AT ALL the qur'an.
But that is your trade I guess, and it is understandable that you pursue it.
Salaam
How one can be blind to ground facts, except when one is blocked by passions and personality worship.
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look who's speaking!
My real passion are your serious posts. Nothing can get funnier. Specially when you spice them with the star word "palaver".
Salaam
Any argument, evidence to rebut what I have stated to refute his ill understanding of word "Yem" on which is based his paper?
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Misr is the original name; Western world mentions it as Egypt. Try finding Misr elsewhere in the World. Did GA Pervez found out Misr other than Egypt.
GA Pervez was not god but a humble scholar who tried his best to understand Quran. He never claimed himself free of mistakes.
Our Prophet used "GYPT" in the alleged letter to head of your "MISR".
I do not know about GA Pervez but I did find a Misr in 261
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GA Pervez was not god but a humble scholar who tried his best to understand Quran. He never claimed himself free of mistakes.
Our Prophet used "GYPT" in the alleged letter to head of your "MISR".
I do not know about GA Pervez but I did find a Misr in 261
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Know this fact, Fir'aoun/Pharaoh circulated proclamation/address within his Nation, he said,"O my countrymen/nation, is the state/dominion of Misr not for me, and these streams of water are flowing by my side/underneath ?
Will you people still not see/focus ?
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Has someone seen of water flowing down from mountains? Simply absurd thought.
Hence all his work is baseless and just a palaver,
Please check Raghib and Taj-ul-Aroos for the meaning of root to understand
ا ?ar-riyaahu nashalul ard) winds scrape the surface of the earth.
ا ?as-saahil) river bank or sea shore which is worn away (gradually) or scraped by the water {T,
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Know this fact, Fir'aoun/Pharaoh circulated proclamation/address within his Nation, he said,"O my countrymen/nation, is the state/dominion of Misr not for me, and these streams of water are flowing by my side/underneath ?
Will you people still not see/focus ?
Brother you have ignored 261 which could also explain use of misr in 4351
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Map #7 The alleged ?crossing? point, in the Sea of Reeds, whose width ranges between 19 and 35 kilometers.
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The next photograph is a satellite image of the area, which shows just how wide the Sea of Reeds is at the imagined crossing point. It doesn't take a genius to realize that something is just plain wrong with the entire geography of the story, and that someone has been insulting our intelligence for centuries, while weve been unknowingly playing the drums and trumpets to the tune of their fraud.
Picture #20 Satellite image of the area.
An even more outrageous theory places the crossing point not at the Sea of Reeds, but further south, through the Red Sea itself! (See the following map). The advocates of this theory completely deny that Mount Sinai is on that famous peninsula, and claim that Msa (P) ended up in Arabia, somewhere in the Northern ijz region, where the Israelites wandered for 40 years before finally entering the so-called ?Promised Land? of Palestine. In fact, some contemporary Muslim commentators have shown enthusiasm and support for this latter theory, while completely ignoring the fact that it blatantly contradicts the obvious geography deduced from the Qurnic account. They are seemingly oblivious to the fact that the width of the Red sea at that point is around 200 kilometers! How could the two parties see each other from across that distance? Did the Israelites take binoculars with them on their journey?
The logic of the Qurnic account is easily understood once we clear our heads of inherited dogmas before contemplating its signs. The Israelites had not gone far at all when Far?awn caught up to them. Theres not a chance in Hell they could have reached the coast of the Sea of Reeds in one night. Furthermore, Far?awn and his henchmen were almost upon the evaders at the moment of the crossing. So where did these events take place?
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Map #8 An even more absurd candidate for the crossing point.
Here follows is a possible explanation of what happened
As we said before, Msa (P) and his people fled the citadel, in secret, at night. Far?awn didnt gather the search party until after he realized they were gone. The Children of Israel were most probably no more than six hundred in number. Far?awn caught up to them at dawn, which proves that the distance the evaders had covered could not have been long. When they saw that the tyrant and his henchmen were getting close and feared they would be caught, Allah comforted the heart of Msa and told him to head towards a river bed along the slope of a mountainside. The Israelites hiked upwards along a narrow path between two huge streams of water, like cliff banks on either side of them, until they reached the highland wilderness and were able to ford the stream. When the pursuers tried to take the same route, a third stream (yamm), which had been fed by previous heavy rainfalls, gushed into their path and washed them away.
Furthermore, we remind you once again that the Israelites eventually inherited everything that Far?awn and his followers left behind. How else can we explain the following?
{Msa said to his people ?Seek help with Allah, and be patient; the land is for Allah, He will inherit it to whom He pleases of His servants; and the ending will be for the righteous?.* They said ?We were being harmed before you came to us and since you have come to us?. He said ?Perhaps your Rabb will destroy your enemy, and make you successors in the land, so He sees how you work??}... .
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What About r Seen??
One of the most important and fundamental keys to understanding Allahs signs in the Qurn is to realize that there are no synonymous words in its vocabulary. The Qurn is so precise in its usage of terms, that it is impossible to substitute one term for another and maintain the exact same meaning. In many cases, words that appear, at first glance, to be synonymous, might very well constitute a case of general versus specific. We have recently seen that bar and yamm are not exactly synonymous. Likewise, the terms r (spirit) and nafs (soul), often confused by the classical commentators, are nowhere near having the same meaning. Other examples of words thought to be synonymous are ?m (year) and sanah (season or cycle); wlid (biological parent) and abb (general parent); ya?mal (to work) and yaf?al (to do); jabb (any general hole, pit or cavity) and bir (well). Famous Andalusian scholar Ibn ?Aiyyah once attested to this characteristic of the Qurn by saying
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Paraphrase ?If one term is removed from Allahs book, and the entire Arabic tongue is turned inside out in search for a better alternative to that term, none will be found?.
There is no compromise in the matter. Allah does not play games. It is the so-called Muslims who claimed the eloquent tongue (lisn) of the Qurn is simply a superior example of the Classical Arabic language (lughah) of poetry, and started substituting and interchanging words here and there in their exegeses, claiming that they are synonymous. (Note, incidentally, how they mixed up the terms lisn and lughah, thinking them to be synonyms). They envisioned the Qurn as some kind of show-down between Allah and the poets of Arabia, which Allah won in the end! In short, they have unknowingly made a mockery of the Divine Scripture.
Following the same logic as in our explanation of bar versus yamm, we come to another delicate issue the difference between the terms jabal (mountain) and r. Understanding this difference is of paramount importance in order for us to determine just where r Seen is actually located. The surprising thing we found when we read what the classical commentators said about this issue is that despite all their geographical confusion, they actually highlighted the distinction between the two terms. To give them due credit, let us list a few examples of what they wrote- In Tafseer al-Qurubi, we come across the following definition
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Paraphrase . - In the Tafseer of Ibn Katheer, we can read the following definition
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Paraphrase ?The Almighty swears by his creations, which are testaments to His great power, that chastisement shall fall upon His enemies, and that they cannot avert it. And the r is a mountain on which trees grow, like the one where Allah spoke to Msa, and from which ?Eesa was sent forth. And that upon which are no trees is not called a r , but is called (simply) a mountain?.
It seems they had known the truth all along. There, straight from their own mouths, is the answer to this age-old puzzle the difference between r and jabal is another case of general versus specific. Hence, every r is necessarily a mountain; but not every mountain is a r. A mountain that is covered with trees or vegetation in general, is called a r; whereas a towering, rocky, and barren feature is simply a jabal (plain mountain).
In fact, quite a few commentators who realized the implications of this difference between the two terms, vehemently rejected the theory that the r Seen mentioned in the Bible and the Qurn is the famous mountain located on the peninsula between Egypt and Palestine. Among those commentators was the prominent scholar Fakhruddeen al-Rzi who, in his exegesis of the Qurn, presented what he thought were strong arguments in favor of the r being located near Jerusalem.
The advocates of the Palestinian r theory actually thought that the Qurn supported their argument, specifically in the following passage {And a tree which emerges from r Seen; it grows with oil and is a relish for those who eat}?. Their argument is that olives do not grow - nor did they ever grow - on the so-called ?Sinai Peninsula?, which means that the Egyptian r theory clearly contradicts the Qurn. On the other hand, the ?Blessed Land? (al-ar al-mubrakah), which they automatically assumed was Palestine, has plenty of olive trees all year round. In fact, the mountain in question, which overlooks Jerusalem, is called ?the Mount of Olives?, and its peak is around 850 meters above sea level. Their conclusion was that r Seen is in fact the Mount of Olives.
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Salaam
- In Tafseer al-Qurubi, we come across the following definition
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What the proponents of the Mount of Olives didnt realize is that they had fallen under the influence of an old and fruitless Jewish debate regarding the true location of ?Mount Sinai?; a debate that is still raging until today. In fact, some Jewish sects firmly believe that the Mount of Olives is ?Mount Sinai?, where the Lord spoke to Msa. A more recent theory among Biblical scholars and academics has even placed Mount Sinai in the far north of Saudi Arabia, claiming that it is none other than the famous Jabal al-Lawz, a peculiar-looking mountain with a blackened peak, located near the city of Tabk, not far from the Jordanian border. Still, others have claimed that Mount Sinai is somewhere in the Negev desert!
In fact, Paul, who invented Christianity, clearly states in one of his letters that Mount Sinai is in Arabia, without specifying where exactly. (Incidentally, it seems that Paul picked up much lore during his ?mysterious? three-year sojourn in Arabia). Here follows is a passage from the New Testament
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Picture #23 Jabal-al-Lawz, near Tabk (Saudi Arabia). It doesnt seem too green, does it?
For it is written that Abraham had two sons the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to abondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children (Gal. 4 22-25).
This is very interesting, isn't it? Paul is saying that Hgar, the alleged bond maiden of Ibrheem (P), is an allegory to the ?bond of flesh? and to Mount Sinai itself, which is in Arabia. What is popularly called the ?Sinai Pennisula? today was never a part of Arabia. In fact there is zero evidence that the peninsula was ever called by that name before the 4th Century AD.
If you think, dear reader, that the location of Mount Sinai is agreed upon - whether by scholars or by laymen - then you are gravely mistaken. All it takes is a bit of research on your part, whether on the internet, or in books of theology, and you will soon notice the heaps of conjecture and hearsay that our predecessors spewed forth concerning the location of this mountain. This has resulted in nominating no less than four different locations as possible candidates for the legendary landmark! Is it in Egypt, or in the Negev Desert? Or is it in Jerusalem? Or perhaps in Saudi Arabia?
Is it possible that Allah has purposely led humanity astray regarding this issue? Or has the shortcoming been on our part? The answer to this puzzle can be found in the Qurn,
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and is supported by a mysterious passage in the Bible, whose implications have just recently begun to dawn in the minds of scholars. First, lets see what the Qurn says
{By the r * And a recorded Book * In parchment unrolled. * And the crowded Sanctuary * And the ceiling that is raised. * And the sea that is set aflame. * The retribution of your Rabb is unavoidable * Nothing can stop it}?.
The above passage begins with an oath sworn to Muammad (P), by the malikah of revelation, that the retribution of Allah is unavoidable. The malikah are evidently swearing by certain phenomena or geographical features that are well-known to Muammad the green mountain (r), the Book that is being recorded on animal skins, the ancient and well-established Bayt (sanctuary), the sky that has been raised without pillars, and the sea under which flames erupt (meaning that Muammad lived in a land that - at some point not too long before his time - exhibited volcanic activity).
To all free-thinking believers who refuse to let their minds be enslaved by the understanding of the salaf, we ask the following what does the r (green mountain) have to do with the Bayt? Why are they both mentioned in the same context, in the same passage, and as part of the same oath? Has anyone ever deeply contemplated this? What do all these locations or characteristics have to do with Palestine or Egypt?
{And We sent down from the sky water in due measure, then We let it reside in the earth, and We are capable of taking it away.* So We brought forth for you gardens of palm trees and grapes, for which you will find many fruits and from it you will eat. * And a tree which emerges from the r of Seen, it grows with oil and is a relish for those who eat}?.
Who is being addressed in the above signs? Is it not Muammad (P) and his people? Are they not being asked to contemplate how Allah sends down rain for them to revive the land after its death? Are they not being asked to reflect on how that rain causes the earth to sprout palm trees and grapes for them to eat from? Did Allah not strike for them, as an example, the green, wooded slopes of Seen? Does this not mean that Muammad (P) and his people resided very near that green mountain, and were well familiar with it? How then can it be in Palestine or in Egypt?
{By the fig and the olive * And r Seeneen * And this secure country * We have created man in the best form * Then We returned him to the lowest of the low * Except those who have believed and done good works, they will have a reward that will not end * So what would make you deny the deen after this? * Is Allah not the Wisest of the wise?}?.
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Which ?secure country? is being spoken of in the above signs, and associated with the r? Is it not the same country mentioned in the following?
{I do swear by this country * And you are a dweller in this country * And a father and what he begets}?.
Who, other than Muammad (P), is being addressed here? If the r is in Egypt, or Palestine, then why did Allah associate it with ?the country?? And which country is it then? If, by now, you have jumped to the conclusion that the r is near the city of Makkah, in the southern ijz, then you need to pause and think a bit where, in the vicinity of Makkah, can we find green mountains? Are there any grape orchards, fig, olive, or pomegranate trees anywhere within 500 kilometers of that city?
When you read the precise details given to Muammad (P) in the Qurn, regarding the place where Msa (P) had heard the divine call, you will immediately realize that Muammad (P) must have known that very spot like he knew the palm of his own hand
{So when he reached it, he was called from the edge of the right side of the valley at the blessed area of the tree ?O Msa it is I, Allah, the Rabb of all peoples?}?.
This fact is even more obvious in the following
{And you (O Muammad) were not on the western slope when We decreed the command to Msa. You were not a witness * And We established many nations, and many ages passed them by. And you were not living among the people of Midyan, reciting Our revelations to them. But We were to send messengers * And nor were you on the side of the r when We called. But it is a mercy from your Rabb, so that you may warn a people who received no warner before you, perhaps they may take heed}?.
To elaborate what we are saying, consider the following example would someone, describing certain important past events to you, dear reader, say ?I was there, at the corner of Main Street and 12th Avenue, under the great elm tree. I saw it happen?, if that place wasnt in your own neighborhood or, at the very least, very familiar to you? What sense would such details make if it wasnt? Muammad knew very well where the r was. It was in the secure country, in the vicinity of Midyan, to whose inhabitants Allahs messenger Shu?ayb (P) was sent in the bygone days. It was in Msas very footsteps that Muammad walked. It cannot possibly be any other way.Salaam
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{By the r * And a recorded Book * In parchment unrolled. * And the crowded Sanctuary * And the ceiling that is raised. * And the sea that is set aflame. * The retribution of your Rabb is unavoidable * Nothing can stop it}?.
The above passage begins with an oath sworn to Muammad (P), by the malikah of revelation, that the retribution of Allah is unavoidable. The malikah are evidently swearing by certain phenomena or geographical features that are well-known to Muammad the green mountain (r), the Book that is being recorded on animal skins, the ancient and well-established Bayt (sanctuary), the sky that has been raised without pillars, and the sea under which flames erupt (meaning that Muammad lived in a land that - at some point not too long before his time - exhibited volcanic activity).
To all free-thinking believers who refuse to let their minds be enslaved by the understanding of the salaf, we ask the following what does the r (green mountain) have to do with the Bayt? Why are they both mentioned in the same context, in the same passage, and as part of the same oath? Has anyone ever deeply contemplated this? What do all these locations or characteristics have to do with Palestine or Egypt?Some information is given by oath to emphasize its certainty.
Oath is by five objects; one is singular Proper Noun; and other four are by Adjectival phrases. Second one is indefinite noun.
In Arabic Adjectival phrases the second noun depicts the characteristic of principal noun.
And swearing by At-Tur ?
And by a book, its characteristic is that it is written in a line on a qualitatively fine spread paper?
And by the House, its prominent feature is that it is frequented - enlivened - vivified ?
And by the Canopy raised high?
And by the Sea whose characteristic is that fuel is placed in it?
We know concepts like Mountain, Mountain range, Mountain belt, Hill.
A Mountain range is a series of mountains or hills ranged in a line connected by high ground.
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Learned Ibn Faris described its primary signification in these words
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That it leads to the perception of extent, span, and elongation of a thing with regard to space or time. An example of its application is to refer "the pavement, sidewalk of a house, dwelling which extends to its faraway courtyard.
Thereby in contrast to Jabal, a general noun describing mountains, the elongation of Jabal is Mountain range. Needless to say it is a range in the Peninsula of Sinai.
Mountain range is a series of mountains in a line connected with high land and is over some spread area on the surface of the Earth, and a book has written text in a line with space between the words on a spread paper.
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To the reader I regret to have this in several parts, but those itnerested I am sure they will be able to follow the argument starting from the first quote. Of course, those who start from the point of view that the bible is infallible and that absolutely all that is in the Qur'an should be sumitted to what the Bible says, because the bible is the word of God and the Qur'an just the beggar poor relative that copied all from hthe holy bible, should not bother if they are not ready to take real research seriously. Salaam
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On the other hand, the Quran tells us that Muammad was sent forth after a seemingly long absence, a pause - so to speak - in the line of messengers. This fact is made evident by the following sign
{O people of the Book, Our messenger has come to clarify for you after a respite in the messengers*; so that you cannot say ?No bearer of good news or warner has come to us?; for a bearer of good news and a warner has come to you; and Allah is capable of all things}?.
This is what the Quran means when it tells us that Muammad was sent to a people whose fathers had not received any messengers. It is because many centuries had passed between Muammad and his predecessor. It does not mean that no messenger was ever sent to the distant ancestors who lived in the same land. How else can we reconciliate the apparent lack of messengers before Muammad on one hand, with the very clear signs that called on Muammads own people to look upon the ruined homes of those nations who disobeyed their messengers, and who had occupied the same land wherein the Quran was revealed?
By contrast, the previous messengers, all of whom were of one lineage, were sent to their peoples in relatively rapid succession, as is evident in the following
{We sent Our messengers in succession. Every time there came to a nation their messenger, they denied him. So We made them follow one another, and We let them serve as narrated examples}...{2344}.
Concerning Seen, Ibn Manr, author of Lisn?ul ?Arab (Lit The Arabic Tongue), says the following in his famous book
, and Seeneen (as in r Seeneen), which appears in . He suggests that Seen is the actual name of the area or the spot of land; whereas Seeneen is the plural of seeniniyyah, which is a type of tree.
In his book entitled (Lit) The Arabs, The Semites, the Hebrews, and the Children of Israel (1991), scholar and researcher Amad Dwd says
- The Arabic word used in this sign is fatrah ( ) which conveys the meaning of a pause or a break in a succession of messengers.
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What is worth noting here is Dwds indication of a phenomenon that we will encounter very often on our quest to recover Arabias lost history. This phenomenon consists of hijacking the names of locations (towns, mountains, rivers, etc?) or tribes - whether they are mentioned in the Qurn or in the Old Testament - and projecting them onto geographical regions that have absolutely no connection to the original names whatsoever. Most notable among those names are Seen, Yathrib, Makkah, Bakkah, Midyan, and Mir. By the time we reach the end of our journey, we will have come across over a hundred examples of this fraud.
Despite the fact that we disagree with Amad Dwd about the origin and meaning of the name Seen we have to give him credit regarding what he said about the famous peninsula having gotten its name sometime during the 4th Century AD. His observation is actually spot on. In fact, many Jewish and Christian scholars are pretty much unanimous that it was Emperor Constantine (died in 377 AD), who gave that Biblical name to the triangular peninsula lying between Egypt and Palestine. Among those scholars, for example, is John D. Keyser, who stated the following ?It has been a common belief in the Christian world, since the time of Constantine, that the so-called Sinai Peninsula is in fact the location of the legendary mountain mentioned in both the Old and New Testaments, and where God is said to have spoken to Moses. What the vast majority of people dont know is the fact that choosing the peninsula as the site of the Biblical mountain was in fact the result of Emperor Constantines personal opinion?.
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- The Arabic word used in this sign is fatrah ( ) which conveys the meaning of a pause or a break in a succession of messengers.
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It is incredible, ununderstandable that with all the things that according to Egypt haters happenned in Egyp or with Egypt to the the peoples, that not even once a great river is mentionned let alone a single time de word Nile, which would be quite conclusivee.
26.52ownards
Instead of it we have springs, not fountains, no, real springs, rivers in plural, and that country with all those things is given to the banu Israil take it over and live in it. And historians unaware of it, and even the bible, the dear old bible, unaware of it.
And supposed believers in the Qur'an fighting hard to uphold those truths and being ever so shocked that it should even be doubted.
Not only is Egypt full of little currents and rivers and springs and is a banana kingdom here the king has to send some guys to get a band to pursue the evaders because it has no army, no police no regular forces of any kind and has to recruit some for the occassion, but also shortly it is going to be taken over by the gang of evaders.
But what can one say? Who came first comes first, and the first to come has been the bible and the bible rules. Even against the very bible.
Salaam
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Thanks. Then what he thinks which country is Misr.
I recall his article saying that Misr means a settlement or a small town. There is no specific country called Misr. There were many Misr at that time.
Present day "Egypt" used to be called "Gypt" in old times. Egypt is a twisted form of "Gypt".