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Allah is ENERGY

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    i m asking about the one who create the nature and who make the laws of nature = creator + lawmaker

    That is Allah your LordLaw the Creator/Sustainer of everything There is no LordLaw but Him — so how can you be so deluded? (4062)

    delusion. noun. an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

    That is Allah your LordLaw. There is no LordLaw but Him, the Creator/Sustainer of everything. So serve/align with Him . He is responsible for everything. (6102)

    ???? From a God who thinks like a man, to a man who thinks like Allah!
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    For centuries after centuries, mankind has found solace in the idea of idolizing and deifying an all-powerful being with whom refuge can be sought against the many calamities and events that leave mankind helpless and impotent.
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    This process of deification and seeking salvation and success from an outside source, has led mankind to turn towards numerous concepts of god/s with the hope of having their dreams and desires met. As such, various objects that were thought to be powerful enough to have the capacity to meet their demands were deemed as gods, and hence began the period of idolatry.
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    At first, the gods were identified from among certain stones, plants and animals on earth. However, once their mortal nature was recognized, and as Prophets and Rasuls came time and time again pointing to the absurdity of deifying these earthly objects, man gave up on earthly gods and turned his gaze towards the heavens. This time, deifying certain heavenly objects or stars with specific influences as gods.
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    Whenever man encountered an object or event that he could not solve or comprehend, it became a mysterious power for him, to which he eventually associated a concept of godhood. This concept of an earthly or heavenly god falls into direct contradiction with scientific knowledge and is nothing but postulation. The Quran rejects this assumption that goes against verified knowledge with its ‘kalima-i tawhid&#039 (The Word of Unity), ‘there is no god&#039.
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    Man imprisoned himself in a cocoon when he idolized fire and heavenly bodies, all in supposition of a ‘god&#039. In time and with conditionings from the environment, he began to lead a life completely devoid of contemplation. Enslavement was the price of this ignorance; he became a slave to his gods and this dependence became his reassurance.
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    Of course, this only led to the hardening of his cocoon, burrowing him further into darkness!
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    When Muhammad (saw) announced to be Allah&#039s Rasul in Mecca, there were 360 different gods inside the Kaaba alone. That is, 360 idols! Mankind was finding solace in deifying 360 idols that represented 360 different gods, each with a different role.
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    THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO DISCERN THAT SUCH EARTHLY OR HEAVENLY GODS COULD NOT EXIST, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAD NO IDEA OF THE VASTNESS OF THE UNIVERSE THEY WERE IN!

    https//i.pinimg.com/originals/f9/65/66/f9656653903accef0e78bfbe4f724ee3.jpg

    They thought that god sat on a star up in space and watched over our world, sometimes interfering in our affairs, and sometimes quietly observing to examine us, all eventually to place those of his liking in heaven and cast the rest into hell.
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    Mankind has done a lot of nonsense in the name of pleasing earthly or heavenly gods. In fact, in Hadhrat Omar&#039s words, they would make an idol to resemble their god with a cookie, then they would worship and deify this cookie-idol and then, with much appetite, they would sit and eat it! Even worse, they would bury their 8-year old daughters alive just to ingratiate themselves with their illusory gods!
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    God denotes the existence of a deity beyond the individual. A deity that bestows the wishes of individuals in exchange of being praised, glorified, and exalted!
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    A God that gives commands with which you must comply in order to earn his favor, so that he places you in his paradise and blesses you with plenty in the world. For if you oppose him by following your own free mind and free will, he will become your enemy and punish you by subjecting you to various sufferings!
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    While mankind was caught up in the deification of false and primitive gods, Muhammad (saw) received a revelation that announced him as Allah&#039s Rasul, after which he strived strenuously to stop people from deifying gods. He told them
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    THERE IS NO GOD. THERE IS ONLY ALLAH .
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    This reality has been termed as the ‘kalima-i tawhid&#039 (the Word of Unity).
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    From God to Allah
    Ahmed Hulusi
    https//drive.google.com/open?id=0B4abSh8tONUuMDItdXhGQWpSbGc

    Traditionally...

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    and now, scientifically Matheism

    We have not sent any Messenger except with the language of his people so he can make things clear to them. (144))

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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      Chapter 112 The Law of Thermodynamics

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      1124 = Transformation of ENERGY.

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        imrankhawaja
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        learn math zero mean zero.

        man = 0 ( in what sense) ?

        one more thing multiply 0 by million and tell the value of 0 afterwards ?

        some people apply wrong religion of God
        some people apply wrong science on God
        some people apply wrong math on God
        some people apply wrong images to God
        some people apply wrong concept of God.
        some people apply wrong concept of wrong God/s

        although there is also opposite of this what can gather by applying correct LAW.

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          imrankhawaja
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          That is Allah your LordLaw the Creator/Sustainer of everything There is no LordLaw but Him — so how can you be so deluded? (4062)

          YES he is the creator / sustainer untill there all imagination is sound and logic after
          lets move further

          cause and effect of everything ( agree too)

          next part is problemetic because you are saying the energy what we have is what God is.

          now at this stage i can say we are the controller of energy ? we are biger god than energy ? we can create energy ? we can destro energy ? our bodies provide us energy what we get from food too.

          on that step people put lot of figure living/non-living, visible / invisible, animal/humans, all flavours of God is in third step. actually in the step of creation.

          how creation = creator ?

          whatever a human mind can think about (God) it will be nothing more than human imagination. its a limit to it.

          why you thinking this because as per your knowledge you cannot think more than energy thats your limit of thinking ( understand ) .

          you are looking for creation not creator.
          you will find creation in the end not creator.
          ( thats called law of cause and effect)

          if u put a seed of apple it will be apple not orange.(law of nature)

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            learn math zero mean zero.

            man = 0 ( in what sense) ?

            "THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO DISCERN THAT SUCH EARTHLY OR HEAVENLY GODS COULD NOT EXIST, SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAD NO IDEA OF THE VASTNESS OF THE UNIVERSE THEY WERE IN! "

            and there is not even "0".. there is ONLY ONE / ONENESS (1).

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              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              next part is problemetic because you are saying the energy what we have is what God is.

              Indeed, you are mere "consciousness" and the manifestation of Allah.

              https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=meoGgUkLx9M

              Allah (1) + 0 (You) = 1 (manifestation or consciousness of Allah / Energy)

              and scientifically...

              • Allah (Energy) exists

              • You (Atoms) don't!

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              but instead, many people are insanes...

              Allah (1) + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 + infinity = shirk / insanity

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                how creation = creator ?

                Allah exists, you don't... this is scientific fact.

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                  imrankhawaja
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                  u got 100/100 marks handshake

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    God is IMPOSSIBLE. handshake

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                      good_logic
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                      Peace Mahdi.
                      What is the Arabic word for GOD? You did not come back to me on this.
                      GOD bless you.
                      Peace.

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                        imrankhawaja
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                        also what is the arabic word of ENERGY ?

                        NAAR could be close ?

                        with respect to this NAAR or LIGHT is not getting fit in 112 as per the merits of book.

                        according to author you didnt understand his book? a clear error.

                        if somebody examine you according to scholarly principle he hardly give any marks on the answers of ur exams.

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                          hawk99
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                          if somebody examine you according to scholarly principle he hardly give any marks on the answers of ur exams.

                          That depends on the principle, as far as creative writing goes I would
                          give brother Mahdi Ibrahim an "A" for creating his own consistent definitions,
                          his explanations of his metaphors, imaginative graphics and subject participation.

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            You did not come back to me on this.

                            already did...

                            Would you agree first that Allah is just the Arabic word for GOD.

                            No. There is NO GOD and Allah mean One who is not illah

                            . . .

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                            and long before spoken language arose human beings communicated with only their hands, eyes, natural symbols/signs. These are the ancient languages, the language for THE UNLETTERED... accordingly

                            We have not sent any Messenger except with the language of his people so he can make things clear to them. (144)

                            Many people do not understand the word "Allah," and Allah's main argument is "NO GOD." The word of "Allah", language, speech and concept of meaning takes thousand of years to develop. Ancient peoples had no idea about science, physics, energy, different form of energies, source of energy, law of thermodynamics, conservation of energy, the universe, etc. They understand in the language of "natural symbols/signs." Generally, "GOD" is "the LIGHT," the power for making changes.

                            For this reason the word "God" merely for the "language of his people" and "makes things clear to" ancient peoples. It follows the word God from the Quran is not conclusive and mere minor premise. It must be defined from main premises; i.e. God refers to Law of the Universe; it refers to The Law of Nature / Energy; "All validity/lawfulness praises and thanks be to Allah the LordLaw of the universe. (12)"

                            This is most common in legal interpretation and statutory text. It reads differently from other books and has its own legal framework. People cannot be cherry picking the word "God" without identifying its major and minor premises, "Do you believe in part of the Book and disbelieve in another part of it? (285)"

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                            Why don't they research the (interpretation and translation of the) Quran? Don't they realize that if it(s interpretation and translation) was from someone other than Allah/TRUTH/ECOLOGICAL JUSTICE (ie. from political juriprudence and FORCED JUSTICE), they would find many discrepancies/fallacies in it. (482)

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                              imrankhawaja
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                              That depends on the principle, as far as creative writing goes I would
                              give brother Mahdi Ibrahim an "A" for creating his own consistent definitions,
                              his explanations of his metaphors, imaginative graphics and subject participation.

                              principle is already there in ch 112

                              although for the people who beleive God is light for them he can get full marks i agree.
                              even some sunni believe god is light as well as muhammad.

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                                good_logic
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                                Peace Mahdi.
                                You mean there is no Arabic word for GOD?
                                Because as far as I know Allah is GOD -English-
                                The bible that existed before Qoran in Arabic has "Allah" wherever you see the word GOD in the English translation.
                                i.e Allah is just the word GOD in English, Dieu in French....etc
                                GOD bless you.
                                Peace.

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  believe in whatever you want... God, Lord Krishna, Zeus etc...

                                  but here is the "description"...

                                  That is Allah your LordLaw the Creator/Sustainer of everything There is no LordLaw but Him — so how can you be so deluded? (4062)

                                  delusion. noun. an idiosyncratic belief or impression maintained despite being contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

                                  That is Allah your LordLaw. There is no LordLaw but Him, the Creator/Sustainer of everything. So serve/align with Him . He is responsible for everything. (6102)

                                  Allah is ENERGY.. accordingly

                                  He made all gods same god (Energy). (385)

                                  I have no issue over the name and identifying Allah from traits/descriptions/"meanings/validity"...

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                                    imrankhawaja
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                                    believe in whatever you want... God, Lord Krishna, Zeus etc..(as well as energy)

                                    Allah is ENERGY.. accordingly

                                    No Allah is not energy according to 112.

                                    say him energy or whatever but dont say Quran said that. otherwise u are in a confusion/error mode.

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      First Premise Allah is the Light. (2435)
                                      Second Premise Say He, Allah, is One. (1121)


                                      Therefore Say He, Allah the Light, is One. (1121)


                                      and the Light, is ENERGY.

                                      That is Allah your LordLaw the Creator/Sustainer of everything There is no LordLaw but Him — so how can you be so deluded? (4062)

                                      That is Allah your LordLaw. There is no LordLaw but Him, the Creator/Sustainer of everything. So serve/align with Him . He is responsible for everything. (6102)

                                      Therefore, Allah is Energy; in Chapter 112.

                                      • 1121 Say He, ENERGY, is One (1).

                                      • 1122 ENERGY is He on Whom all depend (0 / atoms / transformation of ENERGY).

                                      • 1123 ENERGY Who has not given birth cannot be destroyed
                                      nor is ENERGY born can be created.

                                      • 1124 And none is like ENERGY
                                      (ie. Everything is ENERGY and transformation of ENERGY, "1" (Allah/Energy) is not equal to "0" (You/Transformation of Energy/Consciousness to ENERGY))

                                      https//image.slidesharecdn.com/workforceenergypptfinalwiki-121002110722-phpapp02/95/work-force-energy-ppt-final-wiki-3-728.jpg?cb=1349176235

                                      The worst animals before God are the deaf and dumb, those who do not use their reason. (822)

                                      These people of ours have taken LordLaws apart from Him / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Energy. Why do they not produce a clear authority concerning them? Who could do greater wrong than someone who invents a lie against Allah / Sunnatullah / LordLaw of Nature / Energy? (1815)

                                      They attribute to Allah / Sunnatullah / Law of Nature what they themselves dislike cannot prove while their own tongues utter the lie that the best belongs to them. There is no doubt at all that they will receive the Fire and that they are people who go to excess. (1662)

                                      ie. against ONE/SAME GOD (ENERGY) and sectarians >> Divide & Conquer = Slavery

                                      Debt/Economic Slavery = Competition/Monopoly = Ecological Disorder = Global Warming = Climate Change = Arctic Methane = The Sixth Mass Extinctions = Kill Earth = Kill all life on Earth, livable planet out of 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 planets in our observable universe; is ungrateful.

                                      https//i.ytimg.com/vi/Gh30Kx1o5lI/maxresdefault.jpg

                                      You think it is a minor issue, while in God's sight it was most serious. (2415)

                                      IF Allah
                                      THEN Energy
                                      ELSE Shirk.

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                                        imrankhawaja
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                                        First Premise Allah is the Light. (2435)
                                        Second Premise Say He, Allah, is One. (1121)


                                        Therefore Say He, Allah the Light, is One. (1121)


                                        FIRST PREMISE the Allah is (light= creation) of heavens and earth. now i m gona detailed the equation.

                                        Allah is ( Air,gravity,controller,assembler,desingner) of heavens and earth.

                                        all creations are giving their servitude to the the purpose what they created for including energy.

                                        so Allah is all in all. by power/dominion

                                        SECOND premise Allah is one

                                        therefore Allah the master of Light is one 112.

                                        there is nothing we can compare to God .(including light/energy/air.) all
                                        are uncompareable if light would be exception in 1124 it should written that way ? there is nothing like him apart from ( light )? . but light is already mentioned by name noor so noor is Not Allah according to the principles of QURAN.

                                        he is the master/lord of sirius.

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                                          FIRST PREMISE the Allah is (light= creation) of heavens and earth. now i m gona detailed the equation.

                                          Allah is ( Air,gravity,controller,assembler,desingner) of heavens and earth.

                                          all creations are giving their servitude to the the purpose what they created for including energy.

                                          so Allah is all in all. by power/dominion

                                          SECOND premise Allah is one

                                          therefore Allah the master of Light is one 112.

                                          there is nothing we can compare to God .(including light/energy/air.) all
                                          are uncompareable if light would be exception in 1124 it should written that way � there is nothing like him apart from ( light )� . but light is already mentioned by name noor so noor is Not Allah according to the principles of QURAN.

                                          he is the master/lord of sirius.

                                          The word "LIGHT" is the metaphor for ENERGY...

                                          The metaphor of His Light is that... (2435)

                                          AND indeed

                                          Allah IS THE LIGHT

                                          Everything is LIGHT UPON LIGHT (transformation of ENERGY)

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                                          so we are not the Light and 98% of the atoms in the human body replaced every year... that leaves our existence is "0".

                                          1 can never be 0
                                          (none equal Him)

                                          Conclusion

                                          • Allah exists

                                          • You don't

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