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Allah is ENERGY

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        https//media.giphy.com/media/l46CA780JT3rqOBeo/giphy.gif

        Those who are blind in this world will be blind in the Next World and even further off the Path. (1772)

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          kaltun
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          SLM MI,

          i invested little to this and there is BUT ....

          Allah is not energy like we know , and yet Allah says he is the light (nur) . its your understanding that light = Energy , but this is wrong

          why because we dont know else , we know only what we are thought. so if Allah created everything, he created energy also , so he created himself ????

          so i wont shout that Allah is ENERGY, he is the light .. not energy .....

          lets see the drawings O0

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            imrankhawaja
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            empty headed person dont know the origin of ?LIGHT?

            the birth of LIGHT from the nuclear fusion of hydrogen that transform
            hydrogen into helium is what we know the ? Light of universe?

            IGNORANT @ extreme

            as per this way gas clouds before planets and mother stars were creator of LIGHT ?

            MAJNU @ extreme

            is gas cloud a bigger God ?

            INSANITY @ extreme

            NOTE i advise all other members to write in this size format so that people easily locate how many times this imposter is been defeated and its easy for them to find out.otherise ur words will get vanished in long messy pictures posts.

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              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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              Allah is not energy like we know

              Therefore the burden of proof is to show

              What is there in existence OTHER THAN ENERGY.

              ELSE, Allah is ENERGY.

              Definition

              https//images.slideplayer.com/14/4490787/slides/slide_1.jpg

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                the birth of LIGHT

                The "LIGHT" is simply the metaphor / signs for ENERGY...

                do you know how language develop?

                OR you assume ancient people spell it "ENERGY"? Terrible... rotfl

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                  reel
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                  Great you started this thread. I did talk about a dream I had about Allah. My conclusion now is what you describe. God is energy encompassing all. However, as I am told in the dream, still we are not individually him.

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    still we are not individually him.

                    True, because of the "Transformation of Energy" (light upon light 2435) ....

                    The Energy never remain and always flows through everything...even the atoms in our body will be replaced for every 1 - 7 years...

                    Studies at the Oak Ridge Atomic Research Center have revealed that about 98 percent of all the atoms in a human body are replaced every year. You get a new suit of skin every month and a new liver every six weeks. The lining of your stomach lasts only five days before it&#039s replaced. Even your bones are not the solid, stable, concrete-like things you might have thought them to be They are undergoing constant change. The bones you have today are different from the bones you had a year ago. Experts in this area of research have concluded that there is a complete, 100 percent turnover of atoms in the body at least every five years. In other words, not one single atom present in your body today was there five years ago.

                    that what makes "..we are not individually him..", and we can NEVER be Him...

                    https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31955964_2096438007239446_5245547879065452544_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=7136adb294288f5cd12d70f424c206b8&oe=5C99E458

                    the only "us" is our consciousness ..ie. AWARENESS OF ALLAH (ENERGY)

                    You cannot will, unless Allah wills. 7630

                    لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا اللهُ

                    No GOD (matter)
                    Only Light (ENERGY)

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                      imrankhawaja
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                      I did talk about a dream I had about Allah.

                      usually lot of people had NDE as well as in dreams and they find themsleves in different visions.

                      Dreams are ?mystery? and one unsolved problem of biology.
                      but we can see things in dreams what we can also interpret with our vision.

                      some see jesus
                      some see light ( including sunni) they claimed muhammad is light too.
                      some see dark
                      some see krishna
                      some see muhammad
                      some see their saints/peer/sufi

                      depend whats our mind interpret us.

                      in this TIME/space light consider as FASTEST/ brightest things even in the centre of universe.

                      it appears light is where human mind ends thinking beyond.

                      now we have another thing that even light cant escape from blackholes.
                      New theory ( HAWKIN) also taking popularity that even its possible to come out from blackholes. he mix both quantam and gravity together to form a new theory and played his part well.

                      but the birth of light is FACT of science.
                      let there be a LIGHT.
                      human appear to get attracted/influenced by light related things like sirius sun etc.

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        Proof

                        Dreams = "your brain" can lie to you about the reality

                        Issue

                        • What makes you think your brain is not lying to you now?

                        • What is your proof?

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                          imrankhawaja
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                          where did you see LIE in it ?

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            where did you see LIE in it ?

                            rotfl

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                              imrankhawaja
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                              rotfl

                              elektro

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                                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                This is how to make an argument with the Atheist

                                http//www.atheistrepublic.com/forums/debate-room/allah-energy

                                not with the imaginary Allah rotfl

                                That is Allah your LordLaw the Creator of everything . There is no LordLaw but Him — so how can you be so deluded? (Quran 4062)

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                                  Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                  The life of this world is only an illusion. (Quran 5720)

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                                  He made ALL (ie. transformation of Energy) gods (light/energy) same god (light/energy). (Quran 385)

                                  Energy, in physics is the capacity for doing work. Energy cannot be created or destroyed and it can only be conserved and converted from one form to another.

                                  Light Energy, and Sound Energy

                                  It is not fitting for Allah to have a son (Energy can be created or destroyed). Glory be to Him! When He decides on something, He just says (SOUND ENERGY) to it, ´Be!´ and it is. (Quran 1935)

                                  On the One Energy (Allah) The Law of Conservation of Energy

                                  Verse 1121
                                  قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ

                                  The Energy is Ahad

                                  That is, ENERGY is Oneness. There is nothing in existence other than Energy. The One Energy has no boundary and cannot be broken down into parts or fragments. Nothing is within the micro or macro realms of existence and there is no inside or outside this One Energy.
                                  ​
                                  Verse 1122
                                  اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ

                                  The Energy is Samad

                                  The One Energy is whole without any void or emptiness, impermeable, nothing penetrates into it, nothing extends out from it. The One Energyhas no boundary, and if something has no boundaries, it cannot have a center! It is impossible for the One Energy to have a center. It also follows that something without a center cannot have a core or shell, an interior or exterior. So where is this (9) form of Energy be? Inside or outside this One Energy?
                                  ​
                                  Verse 1123
                                  لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ
                                  Lam yalid walam yūlad (Energy cannot be destroyed, cannot be created)

                                  No other form of new energy has ever originated from, but the same One Energy.

                                  There is no other energy. Nor was this One Energy can be created, and there is no other energy or form of existence from which this One Energy could have originated.

                                  The One Energy has not created another energy being (1 + 1 + ...) from this Energy (1), and no other energy being has originated into existence from the existence of the One Energy.

                                  It is only the manifestation of this One Energy. There is no reality but ALLAH, the ONE ENERGY.

                                  1 (Allah) + 0 (You) = 1 (manifestation)

                                  Sufi metaphysics - Wikipedia
                                  ​https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi_metaphysics

                                  Verse 1124
                                  وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ

                                  There is none known energy is like the One Energy. Nothing is equivalent to the One Energy. Everything ever existed is merely the manifestation (transformation of Energy) of this One Energy.

                                  But you cannot will, unless Allah wills. (Quran 7630)
                                  ​
                                  Thus whether you like or hate Allah/ENERGY, you are worshipping this One Energy every moment of your life. You and even the whole universe have no choice (The value of "0&quot. Allah is Everything/ABSOLUTE (1)!

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                                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                    Who controls hearing and sight? (1031)

                                    https//www.storypick.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/matrix_1-1.jpg

                                    The kafirun are truly deluded. (6720)

                                    Issue What is MIND?

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                                      Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                      Issue What is MIND?

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        The transformation of ENERGY (LIGHT)

                                        Light upon light https//www.abqtodo.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/prism.jpg. (2435)

                                        https//media.giphy.com/media/JTUGtrpDewzE2AzMCE/giphy.gif

                                        They only know the outside appearance of the worldly life; and regarding the Hereafter (Parallel Dimension/Universe), they are ignorant. (307)

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                                          MissMarple77
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                                          Salam,
                                          the story of the blind men and the elephant
                                          Once upon a time, there lived six blind men in a village. One day the villagers told them, "There is an elephant in the village today." They had no idea what an elephant is. They decided, "Even though we would not be able to see it, let us go and feel it anyway." All of them went and touched the elephant.

                                          ? "Hey, the elephant is a pillar," said the first man who touched his leg.
                                          ? "Oh, no! it is like a rope," said the second man who touched the tail.
                                          ? "Oh, no! it is like a thick branch of a tree," said the third man who touched the trunk of the elephant.
                                          ? "It is like a big hand fan" said the fourth man who touched the ear of the elephant.
                                          ? "It is like a huge wall," said the fifth man who touched the belly of the elephant.
                                          ? "It is like a solid pipe," Said the sixth man who touched the tusk of the elephant.

                                          They began to argue about the elephant and every one of them insisted that he was right. It looked like they were getting agitated. A wise man was passing by and he saw this. He stopped and asked them, "What is the matter?" They said, "We cannot agree to what the elephant is like." Each one of them told what he thought the elephant was like. The wise man calmly explained to them, "All of you are right. The reason each of you is telling it differently is because each of you touched a different part of the elephant. So, actually the elephant has all those features what you all said."

                                          The story warns that perceptions can lead to misinterpretation. Mahdi Ibrahim had a picture of the story in a post in this thread but it contradicts his view that Allah is energy.

                                          "He who has seen the Lord in a particular way limits the Lord to that alone and thinks that He is nothing else." (Ramkrishna Paramhamsa)

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