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Genetic evidence proves Muhammad and destroys alternative theories

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    Jafar
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    The war in in Yemen is a good example the Houthis militia are massacring Yemenis because they belive its their God given right being the prophets descendants to rule others and they are the chosen people.

    Houthis massacring Yemenites? Really?

    1. Aren't Houthis are infact Yemenites themselves?
    2. You really don't know who are actually massacring the Yemenites ?

    https//www.counterpunch.org/2018/11/27/the-war-in-yemen-is-not-a-war-it-is-a-massacre/
    "For almost four years, Yemen, the Arab world?s poorest country, has been ravaged by a bloody conflict between Houthi rebels and supporters of Yemen?s internationally recognized government. In 2015, Saudi Arabia formed a coalition of Arab states to fight the Houthis, which included Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, and Senegal. These countries have either sent troops to fight on the ground in Yemen or have carried out air attacks.
    The Yemen war, however, goes beyond a Saudi-Iranian geopolitical or Sunni-Shia conflict. The Houthis? demands have been primarily economic and political, trying to take the Yemenis out of a cycle of poverty. The brutal and indiscriminate attacks of the Saudi-led coalition have left a ravaged country, with millions of civilians fighting for survival."

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      Lost
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      I'm sorry without DNA sample you cannot make any strong narratives.
      You have no smoking gun evidence to say that FGC8712 also exist in Abraham or Muhammad (or any other subject which you want to claim)

      And having paternal relationship to Abraham (or Nimrod or Terah or whomever living during such period) is nothing special either...

      It is more complicated than that and if I tell you those things it's because finding them surprised me a whole lot. I would like to explain it in more details but I fear it is not possible without proper schematisation...

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        Houthis massacring Yemenites? Really?

        1. Aren't Houthis are infact Yemenites themselves?
        2. You really don't know who are actually massacring the Yemenites ?

        https//www.counterpunch.org/2018/11/27/the-war-in-yemen-is-not-a-war-it-is-a-massacre/
        "For almost four years, Yemen, the Arab world?s poorest country, has been ravaged by a bloody conflict between Houthi rebels and supporters of Yemen?s internationally recognized government. In 2015, Saudi Arabia formed a coalition of Arab states to fight the Houthis, which included Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Bahrain, Egypt, Morocco, Jordan, Sudan, and Senegal. These countries have either sent troops to fight on the ground in Yemen or have carried out air attacks.
        The Yemen war, however, goes beyond a Saudi-Iranian geopolitical or Sunni-Shia conflict. The Houthis? demands have been primarily economic and political, trying to take the Yemenis out of a cycle of poverty. The brutal and indiscriminate attacks of the Saudi-led coalition have left a ravaged country, with millions of civilians fighting for survival."

        You are the one who really don't know about what is going in yemen. You are taking news from journalist who are are using the Yemen to settle score with saudis. You know nothing of the war in yemen.

        LOL. The #houthis demand was economical? Please Jafar stick to what you know best. You know nothing of the war about my country. Houthis are throwing flowers and cakes to Yemenis

        https//youtu.be/1VrOORrIb9U

        They even blow up mosques

        https//www.sabanew.net/viewstory/40205

        Yemenis being subjected to torture by houthis

        https//www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/yemen-uae-prison-torture-houthi-detention-centres-middle-east-a8672101.html

        Houthi militias shell residents in the city of Taiz which they have blockade it for more than 4 yrs

        http//www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-07/17/c_137331025.htm

        Houthis stole food 'from the mouths' of hungry Yemenis

        https//www.nitty-grittynews.com/houthis-stole-food-from-the-mouths-of-hungry-yemenis-un/#

        Amnesty decries Houthi prosecution of Bahais in Yemen.

        http//www.davidanderson.ca/amnesty-decries-houthi-prosecution-of-bahais-in-yemen/

        Houthis instill fear and intimidation on Yemenis

        http//www.davidanderson.ca/amnesty-decries-houthi-prosecution-of-bahais-in-yemen/

        I don't disagree that Saudi collation also kills Yemenis by carelessness bombings, but mostly is the Houthis attracting these air strikes for using human civilians and infrastructures
        Houthis will be remembered as the most violent group Yemen has ever seen

        God bless you.

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          Dhynasah
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          Wow. I am very intrigued by this discovery. I would love to read your publication as soon as it comes out. Will it be open source? I am a masters student in Bioinformatics (mostly to learn all of the programming aspects before moving on) and I did my undergraduate in genetics. I also worked for a professor who studied population genetics in fig wasps as an undergraduate student. So Everything you've said makes a lot of sense to me. we studied the divergence of the cytochrome oxidase gene in mitochondria to determine relatedness in different fig wasps populations. I'm assuming you probably used similar methods to determine the haplotype variability within the y chromosome. I would enjoy hearing more about it.

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            Lost
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            Wow. I am very intrigued by this discovery. I would love to read your publication as soon as it comes out. Will it be open source? I am a masters student in Bioinformatics (mostly to learn all of the programming aspects before moving on) and I did my undergraduate in genetics. I also worked for a professor who studied population genetics in fig wasps as an undergraduate student. So Everything you've said makes a lot of sense to me. we studied the divergence of the cytochrome oxidase gene in mitochondria to determine relatedness in different fig wasps populations. I'm assuming you probably used similar methods to determine the haplotype variability within the y chromosome. I would enjoy hearing more about it.

            Peace, I am happy that someone here can have the proper knowledge to understand just how big and meaningful this is.

            Although I am no ''scientist'' in the formal sense of the term, I am qualified enough in haploid markers to be able to act as an authoritative source on the matter, actually even more so than the ''scientists'' themselves. Not trying to sound arrogant or anything, it's just that after so many years spent on this particular field on my own and looking through the endeavors of researchers, I can safely say that most of them are clueless when it comes to interpreting their own data, mainly because they are too linear in their thinking and while this may sound counterintuitive given that we're talking about haploid markers (which are transmitted in a linear fashion), you have to keep in mind that genetic markers are only that and thus cannot act independantly and discriminate between themselves, at the end of the day humans are social beings and when they move, these same genetic markers are in fact only a byproduct of this movement. My point is that we should treat even linear markers in groups and not as sentient-like entities. A common behavior observed in the popualtion genetics community is the idea that a particular haplogroup spoke this or that language, looked like this or that, or whatever. For example, it is not uncommon to hear things such as ''R1a brought indo-european languages to Europe''. The truth is that the bringers of indo-european belonged to R1a and other lines as well, and only happened to have been so almost haphazardly because of various founding events caused by population bottlenecking. To understand migrations, one has to look at the broadest possible picture, and this requires a very wide analytical approach, a thing that most researchers seem to lack, hence why it took them forever to figure out things that could have been easily spotted if everything was considered with due attention. The most flagrant example of this is the story of R1b, the main haplogroup in Western Europe bore by some 70% of the men on the atlantic fringe. In less than two decades, a countless number of theories have been proposed to explain it and it took scientists the arrival of ancient DNA (extracting DNA from ancient remains) to finally be able to really grasp this ''big mystery'', which in fact shouldn't have been a mystery if they had considered it with care in the first place, as it was in fact perfectly possible to deduce the truth concerning R1b almost as soon as it was discovered !!!

            So what do I do then? I thoroughly analyse the data made readily available for anyone interested in an extensive way to draw logical conclusions about various traceable human migrations. Having a firm understanding of the interrelated dynamics of haploid markers is what enable me to make these discoveries, while most of the others are trapped in a never-ending rambling obscured by severe misunderstanding and delusional thinking often driven by specific agendas and confiramtion bias, much like what we see here in free-minds...

            Feel free to PM me if you want me to elaborate on any given point.

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