sleeping without soul
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Death doesnt apply to God even if he has a Nafs. Our Ancestors were the ones who ate from the Tree of Good and Evil... not God ;D Through this sin we are stuck in a world of dualism. In the fresh state we were balanced. Now we need to find the balance or at least be righteous. Read Sura al Waqi'a. Very important Sura.
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GOD also never sleeps
Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Great.
2255 Ayat al-Kursi )
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When GOD says that every Nafs shall taste death it only matters for this material realm. The Qur'an and all the previous Scriptures were sent down to this material realm. He doesnt talk about the laws of other realms. And it shouldnt be important for us for now. We will see where the Journey will take us after the Judgement Day (where also the Sun and the Moon will fuse - End of dualism - singularity) ;D GOD willing.
Wa alleikum as-salam, brother!
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Death doesnt apply to God even if he has a Nafs. Our Ancestors were the ones who ate from the Tree of Good and Evil... not God ;D Through this sin we are stuck in a world of dualism. In the fresh state we were balanced. Now we need to find the balance or at least be righteous. Read Sura al Waqi'a. Very important Sura.
Peace brother and everyone....
Yes... We all know that we can't compare God with human... But why He used nafs.....
Let's talk about God's nafs later... Or anyone may come up with some explanation....
But what is 272 .... In nafs was killed... So one human can kill another nafs
What is you conviction on it -
Peace!
Dont you think that it depends on the context what nafs means? Theres also a Verse in the sura alKahf (186) then perhaps you would kill yourself through grief over them, , if they do not believe in this message, out of sorrow. (sahih international).
Then wouldst thou, perchance, destroy thy
soul ? following hard upon them ? from grief
if they believe not in this narrative? (sam gerrans)Perhaps you will torment yourself in grief over them, because
they will not believe in this narrative at all. (Monotheis Group)Sam Gerrans uses Nafs throughout his translation as Soul, but this individual did also some other questionable things in his translation. Soul can be destroyed but only through immoral behaviour. Like zina and stuff like this... Nafs = Self/Ego. I think Qalb/Heart corresponds more with the Soul. Also through Buddhist philosophy of the 7 Chakras. The Heart chakra is in the center and needs to be activated to activate the higher chakra gates.
According to Sufi-Philosophy of the whirling Derwishes or the Qadiriyya Order. Nafs is the Self which is "killed" during the trance meditation like whirling/dhikr, because through meditation you are close to GOD in the heavens
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jglf7N5RXQ
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9BAoyNL8kk
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Peace!
Dont you think that it depends on the context what nafs means? Theres also a Verse in the sura alKahf (186) then perhaps you would kill yourself through grief over them, , if they do not believe in this message, out of sorrow. (sahih international).
Then wouldst thou, perchance, destroy thy
soul ? following hard upon them ? from grief
if they believe not in this narrative? (sam gerrans)Perhaps you will torment yourself in grief over them, because
they will not believe in this narrative at all. (Monotheis Group)Sam Gerrans uses Nafs throughout his translation as Soul, but this individual did also some other questionable things in his translation. Soul can be destroyed but only through immoral behaviour. Like zina and stuff like this... Nafs = Self/Ego. I think Qalb/Heart corresponds more with the Soul. Also through Buddhist philosophy of the 7 Chakras. The Heart chakra is in the center and needs to be activated to activate the higher chakra gates.
According to Sufi-Philosophy of the whirling Derwishes or the Qadiriyya Order. Nafs is the Self which is "killed" during the trance meditation like whirling/dhikr, because through meditation you are close to GOD in the heavens
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jglf7N5RXQ
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9BAoyNL8kk
There is Big difference with 186 and 272
Later is real killing to death.... But 186 is not killing to death... Am I right.... -
Why not? You can kill yourself (YOURself - do you understand? ;D the Self is not the real you - it is not your core personality) cant you? (but of course you shouldnt...) And what about coma? Technically speaking you are dead. There are also some cases where the buried suddenly came alive again (thats why corpses shouldnt be buried instantly). Thats why GOD says also in Qur'an that it appeard them so that 'Isa bin Maryam (Iesu-Maria) died. There is the death of our flesh but our Spirit is immortal. Our Ancestors ate from the Tree then they became Self aware. They were not Self aware before that, they were pure spiritual beings. And dont forget that there is also the Tree of Life ( ى which gives immortality to the Self, this is coming soon after the day of resurrection. Th negative Part of that Tree is called az-Zaqqum (this one is for the companions of the fire).
"Ibn Arabi stated, the tree (az-Zaqqum) stands for the arrogant self."
Who is Ibn Arabi??
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Salam!
What does the below Ayah mean?
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028088 And call not, besides Allah, on another god. There is no god but He. Everything (that exists) will perish except His own Face. To Him belongs the Command, and to Him will ye (all) be brought back.Peace!
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Wa alleikum as-salam!
it just simply means that ALLAH is the Source of everything and a Source, just like the Truth cant die. He created the good as well as evil. We go back to Him because we are a part of Him. (He gave us our Soul and Spirit). Face is understandble more like his Presence. Thats why it also stated in Genesis that GOD created the Human after his image. Thats why there is also the concept of Jannah and Jahannamm. The Pure part just want to separate itself from the impure part. Just like ALLAH and the Angels separated themselves from Iblis. You become a Shaytan when you show narcissistic behaviour narcissism is based on the Self/Ego. Thats why its important to be spiritual and to balance your Self with your godgiven purity.
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Just look at the Luciferian doctrine. This is the opposite, they worship the Self/Ego. And the Luciferian Lodge of the Freemasons want that doctrine to dominate the abrahamic Monotheism. They took Iblis as their God. This is prophecised in the Qur'an
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Allah cursed him. And he said "I will take an appointed portion of your slaves;
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Verily, I will mislead them, and surely, I will arouse in them false desires; and certainly, I will order them to slit the ears of cattle, and indeed I will order them to change the nature created by Allah." And whoever takes Shaitan (Satan) as a Wali (protector or helper) instead of Allah, has surely suffered a manifest loss.
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He makes promises to them, and arouses in them false desires; and Shaitan's (Satan) promises are nothing but deceptions.
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The dwelling of such (people) is Hell, and they will find no way of escape from it.
Sura An-Nisa (4)
Albert Pike, a mastermason of the Luciferian Lodge has all the characteristics of a Shaytan. He was also the founder of the kuklux clan. Racism is nr1. satanic attribute. He also wrote a book called Morals and Dogma. He is like a prophet for the Luciferian Lodge....
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One more thing The Nafs which applies to GOD is the Trueself, which also corresponds to our True personality. The I AM (in hebrew YAH-YAHOWAH - I AM THAT I AM). The Ego is the Alternative personality. And the Trueself never dies. It goes back to its originator. This is the actual Soul. We have our Ego through the interference of Iblis/Satan. So our Ego corresponds to Iblis-Satan.
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When People find their Trueself... this world is gonna be like Paradise. But sadly we are living in an one eyed world. People seriously think that the intellect of a human being is everything... this only one Part of of the Whole. We need to become WHOLE. But the Elite cant do that, they are cursed by ALLAH. Those one eyed dajjals.
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Since Iblis fell and disobeyed he was replaced with Gabriel - ruh al-quds - the holy Spirit.
Iblis - unholy spirit / destructive ego / wicked logic
Gabriel/Jibril (/ meaning God is my strength) - holy spirit / healthy ego / good logicGabriel is able to use both of his wings because he submitted to the LORD OF THE WORLDS. Iblis pathetically stays on the ground with his one wing.
This is not about Iblis vs GOD. Like the christians or the Luciferians think. This is Iblis vs Gabriel. Praise belongs to ALLAH, the almighty. Shaytan is nothing before Him!
Salam alleikum.