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Aqeemu As Salath Wa?aathu As Zakath.. ... what is it....

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    Peace Everyone

    Let?s explore this?. What actually God says by ? Aqeemu As Salath Wa?aathu As Zakath? or simply by Salath and Zakath together.. For my total understanding in such verses SALATH = MORAL / DISCIPLINE and ZAKATH = PURIFICATION by being discipline?. I don?t know how would be the responses of members? but I will bring one by one verses of quran with my own understanding during the course of the time..
    Is that physical Salat (Prayer) and Charity ?? That?s what almost all translations say? I will in sha Allah bring some evidence from those verses to negate such claims?. In fact I will only use with those verses common sense and the context of the verses what they depict??

    Let me bring the below continuation of verse as a starter..?

    416-7 ? ??.. And woe to those who associate others with Allah(mushriq), Those who do not bring forth Purification (AlZakath), and in the Hereafter they are disbelievers.?
    The above verse clearly indicate Mushriq are kind of filthy people who goes against God?s Law? who needs purification unless they will be disbelievers?
    There has no connection to give CHARITY here? that also as they claim the compulsory charity? that?s bizarre

    God Guide us..

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      Peace Everyone......

      I am aware most of the quran based believers don?t take the topic as what conventional muslim accept?

      Lets see below verses..

      971 ? The believing men and believing women are allies of one another. They enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and establish Salat (Moral/discipline) and bring forth Purification (zakah) and obey Allah and His Messenger. Those Allah will have mercy upon them. Indeed, Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.?
      3333 ?And abide in your houses and do not display yourselves as the display of the former times of ignorance. And establish Salat (Moral/discipline) and bring forth Purification (zakah) and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah intends only to remove from you the impurity , O people of the household, and to purify you with purification.?

      Are these verses say the women of Prophet and to others to establish Pray (salat) and give zakath(charity)?.. context and the flow of the verses say otherwise..

      971 is for general believing Men & WOMEN?.. what they enjoin? Right thing? What they forbid? wrong thing?what is the outcome if both workout? Yes.. establishment / founding of MORAL/DISCIPLINE (Aqeem As-salat), and if that is through automatically the PURIFICATION(Wa?aathus Zakath) will prevail?.. is that enough for a believing Men and Women?. No? once they established moral/discipline and purified they have to maintain it ?. That would happen by obeying Allah and His Messenger?. Simply following the quran?. You can?t follow the quran if you don?t have the discipline / moral and purification of mind?
      In 3333 same instruction given targeting the wives of prophet? this time directly from God and not through believing Men and Women?. They can?t behave like the time of ignorance which they seems used to ? that won?t fit while being as wives of prophet? of course not fit for any believing women? but specially leading icon in the society being a messenger and his wives while being a believer, in case if they were disbelievers ? that would be fine.. coz Nuh and Lot had disbelieving wives..so cannot control?
      Simple advice is to reform.. to reform first thing you need to establish set of morals / discipline and then need to purify the self (it should happen within every individual, it cannot be made to happen by others)? Then look for the guidance by obeying Allah and His messenger?which is the verses of Quran..

      Otherwise this verse doesn?t say to the women of prophet to be inside house (like house arrested) and Pray (Salat) and keep giving Charity?

      If salat = (Prayer) and Zakath = (Charity) then, Obey Allah and His Messenger is enough in these verses ?. Coz Obeying Allah and His Messenger means to take the verses of God and not to deny?. In these verses of God SALAT and ZAKATH is mentioned already?This salat and Zakath is beyond quran and as well part of quran instruction?. Every MORAL/DISCIPLINE and PURIFICATION is needless to explain in quran? such are general practices of human nature with their knowledge and innerself?
      Morals are part of life with every move ?If one fails to cultivate good morals / discipline and purify the self? then He or She won?t even look for Obeying Allah and His Messenger? While he doesn?t have basic morals of life how he will go obeying Messenger and follow quran..?
      For example?.
      You can preach quran to moral abiding good person being Atheist or Christian, Hindu, Hadith Follower, if God will they will obey God and his verses?
      But you can?t preach quran to someone who doesn?t have any basic morals? before someone change self with good morals there is no point of preaching set of quranic law and order..

      It?s like preaching a person to fast while he is dealing with drugs or acting as pimp?what a useless preach that is?. he needs to change his evil acts (opposite of good morals) himself? 1311 ? ?? Allah will not change the condition of a people until they change what is in themselves ?. .. ? this start with a person and his moral/discipline and purification....that needs to be done by self.. no one can do it and no one will do it for you...

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        Peace Everyone

        Let?s explore this?. What actually God says by ? Aqeemu As Salath Wa?aathu As Zakath? or simply by Salath and Zakath together.. For my total understanding in such verses SALATH = MORAL / DISCIPLINE and ZAKATH = PURIFICATION by being discipline?. I don?t know how would be the responses of members? but I will bring one by one verses of quran with my own understanding during the course of the time..
        Is that physical Salat (Prayer) and Charity ?? That?s what almost all translations say? I will in sha Allah bring some evidence from those verses to negate such claims?. In fact I will only use with those verses common sense and the context of the verses what they depict??

        Let me bring the below continuation of verse as a starter..?

        416-7 ? ??.. And woe to those who associate others with Allah(mushriq), Those who do not bring forth Purification (AlZakath), and in the Hereafter they are disbelievers.?
        The above verse clearly indicate Mushriq are kind of filthy people who goes against God?s Law? who needs purification unless they will be disbelievers?
        There has no connection to give CHARITY here? that also as they claim the compulsory charity? that?s bizarre

        God Guide us..

        Note i got a private email on the highlighted part... what good reminding that is from her... As per her she says 416-7 ... Those who do not give zakath(charity) in the hereafter will be disbelievers.. no condition is given... just if anyone not give zakath (charity) will be disbelievers and the fate of disbelievers is hell... how come for just not giving Charity one can be in the hereafter Disbeliever and end up in hell... no condition such as those who do not give zakath while having riches of God... Can everyone give zakath.. remember as per majority zakath is not just simple charity but kind of compulsory Charity to certain group... how unfair the poor fellow who is a believer who cannot affort zakath and end up as confirmed disbeliever in the hereafter... it is not CHARITY (ZAKATH) but it is PURIFICATION... all needs to purify with good morals/discipline otherwise will definitely end up as disbelievers..

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          Peace everyone...
          I could have brought it as an article... but i hope this way is better so people can read slowly.... and grasp..

          7156 ? ??.. ? but My mercy encompasses all things." So I will ordain it(mercy) for those who fear/righteous (Yaththakun) and bring forth Purification (Wa?aathuz Zakath) and those are they who believe in Our verses ?
          Read the full verse for more clarification?
          See the perfectness of what is ZAKATH? this verse is not joined with SALAT? God says?.He will ordain/prescribe/decree his mercy upon those who have actually thaqwa(simply muththaqun)..by having thaqwa they bring forth Purification and they are the people who in fact believe in the verses of GOD?.
          It doesn?t mean those who give CHARITY is the people who in fact believe in the verses of GOD?.The one who is Muththaqun is definitely a person who already has knack of giving charity(22 clearly indicated who muththqun is) Muththaqun is not muththaqun unless he or she gives charity? So God doesn?t need to separately say Muththaqun and GIVE CHARITY ?.
          Perfect verse 7156 is with ZAKATH = PURIFICATION? such a perfect meaningful.. but not with CHARITY?

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