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إِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ What have they disavowed?

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    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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    Where did I said Allah is matter (transformation of Energy)? Please quote...

    Look! How they lie against themselves!(623-24)

    He creates man from a clot. (962)

    clinging = magnetic etc.
    substance = particles

    https//scontent.fkul7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/34318282_2109835465899700_7710964505466896384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul7-1.fna&oh=ed986fef4cee0f91760ef77d6d99f91b&oe=5CD47E9C

    https//i.pinimg.com/originals/b4/b8/ca/b4b8caf5461c6bc0873167596bd319ec.jpg https//kaiserscience.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/all-in-one-ecosystem-from-atom-to-biosphere.jpg

    the "Transformation of Energy" (light upon light 2435) ....

    The Energy never remain and always flows through everything...even the atoms in our body will be replaced for every 1 - 7 years...

    Studies at the Oak Ridge Atomic Research Center have revealed that about 98 percent of all the atoms in a human body are replaced every year. You get a new suit of skin every month and a new liver every six weeks. The lining of your stomach lasts only five days before it's replaced. Even your bones are not the solid, stable, concrete-like things you might have thought them to be They are undergoing constant change. The bones you have today are different from the bones you had a year ago. Experts in this area of research have concluded that there is a complete, 100 percent turnover of atoms in the body at least every five years. In other words, not one single atom present in your body today was there five years ago.

    that what makes "..we are not individually him..", and we can NEVER be Him...

    matter/energy is void of life.

    Your basic science is terrible...

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      Mazhar
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      I didn't say Allah is matter (light upon light, the transformation of Energy)...

      I said Allah is the Light, the ONE LIGHT (without the transformation of Energy or light upon light) ... understand?

      Learn physics..

      Energy cannot be destroyed

      Energy can be transformed.

      You said your allah is light. Light is also in the category of matter. Matter is also transformed. The basic question you are avoiding by gimmicks is about life.

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        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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        You said your allah is light. Light is also in the category of matter. Matter is also transformed. The basic question you are avoiding by gimmicks is about life.

        Matter is "LIGHT UPON LIGHT", "ENERGY UPON ENERGY" ... ie the transformation of Energy.

        Allah is the LIGHT of everything in the heavens and earth, ie without the transformation of Energy but the ONE ENERGY..

        Say Light, is ONE.... ABSOLUTE (ie. without the transformation of Energy) (1121-2)

        Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth / EVERYTHING. (2435)

        similarly, your picture is not you.. .understand?

        simple logic..

        I didn't say Allah is matter (light upon light, the transformation of Energy)...

        I said Allah is the Light, the ONE LIGHT (without the transformation of Energy or light upon light) ... understand?

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          Mazhar
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          Matter is "LIGHT UPON LIGHT", "ENERGY UPON ENERGY" ... ie the transformation of Energy.

          Allah is the LIGHT of everything in the heavens and earth, ie without the transformation of Energy but the ONE ENERGY..

          Say Light, is ONE.... ABSOLUTE (ie. without the transformation of Energy) (1121-2)

          Allah is the Light of the heavens and the earth / EVERYTHING. (2435)

          similarly, your picture is not you.. .understand?

          simple logic..

          Which light you are you so far talking about?

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            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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            Which light you are you so far talking about?

            Do you know transformation of Energy? laugh

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              Mazhar
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              Forget about it what I know and what I know not. Just say energy transforms into life or life is something totally different.

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                Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                Forget about it what I know and what I know not. Just say energy transforms into life or life is something totally different.

                ahhh .. you don't know, and that's why you said Energy can be destroyed.. laugh

                Energy transforms, and that is the "light upon light" (CONSCIOUSNESS) .. .

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                However, Allah never claimed He is "light upon light".. .but

                He is the Light of EVERYTHING..

                The ONE AND ABSOLUTE LIGHT...

                That is Allah, your LordLaw, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. There is no LordLaw but Him � so how are you deluded? (4062)

                That is Allah, your LordLaw, There is no LordLaw but Him, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. So serve Him. He is responsible for everything. (6102)

                Musa said "Allah is the LordLaw (Energy) of the East and the West AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN (ie. THE ONE AND ABSOLUTE LIGHT). You would understand Allah if you USE REASON. (262

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                  Mazhar
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                  ahhh .. you don't know, and that's why you said Energy can be destroyed.. laugh

                  Energy transforms, and that is the "light upon light" (CONSCIOUSNESS) .. .

                  https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/31290652_2091350211081559_1722276449504163621_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=04d14935c40d8f8c32e9126644db6ae9&oe=5CA3B46C

                  However, Allah never claimed He is "light upon light".. .but

                  He is the Light of EVERYTHING..

                  The ONE AND ABSOLUTE LIGHT...

                  That is Allah, your LordLaw, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. There is no LordLaw but Him � so how are you deluded? (4062)

                  That is Allah, your LordLaw, There is no LordLaw but Him, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. So serve Him. He is responsible for everything. (6102)

                  Musa said "Allah is the LordLaw (Energy) of the East and the West AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN (ie. THE ONE AND ABSOLUTE LIGHT). You would understand Allah if you USE REASON. (262

                  Where did I say this that made you life?

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                    Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                    Where did I say this that made you life?

                    What's wrong with your frontal lobe? (this always happen when people argue with the messengers) laugh

                    okay, please stick to the argument or perhaps you should take time to study "basic science" on the transformation of Energy ..

                    What is Allah?

                    Allah is THE ONE AND ABSOLUTE LIGHT...

                    The life of this world is only an illusion. (Quran 5720)

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                    He made ALL (ie. transformation of Energy) gods (light/energy) same god (light/energy). (Quran 385)

                    Energy, in physics is the capacity for doing work. Energy cannot be created or destroyed and it can only be conserved and converted from one form to another.

                    On the One Energy (Allah) The Law of Conservation of Energy

                    Verse 1121
                    قُلْ هُوَ اللَّهُ أَحَدٌ

                    The Energy is Ahad

                    That is, ENERGY is Oneness. There is nothing in existence other than Energy. The One Energy has no boundary and cannot be broken down into parts or fragments. Nothing is within the micro or macro realms of existence and there is no inside or outside this One Energy.
                    ​
                    Verse 1122
                    اللَّهُ الصَّمَدُ

                    The Energy is Samad

                    The One Energy is whole without any void or emptiness, impermeable, nothing penetrates into it, nothing extends out from it. The One Energyhas no boundary, and if something has no boundaries, it cannot have a center! It is impossible for the One Energy to have a center. It also follows that something without a center cannot have a core or shell, an interior or exterior. So where is this (9) form of Energy be? Inside or outside this One Energy?
                    ​
                    Verse 1123
                    لَمْ يَلِدْ وَلَمْ يُولَدْ
                    Lam yalid walam yūlad (Energy cannot be destroyed, cannot be created)

                    No other form of new energy has ever originated from, but the same One Energy.

                    There is no other energy. Nor was this One Energy can be created, and there is no other energy or form of existence from which this One Energy could have originated.

                    The One Energy has not created another energy being (1 + 1 + ...) from this Energy (1), and no other energy being has originated into existence from the existence of the One Energy.

                    It is only the manifestation of this One Energy. There is no reality but ALLAH, the ONE ENERGY.

                    1 (Allah) + 0 (You) = 1 (manifestation)

                    Sufi metaphysics - Wikipedia
                    ​https//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sufi_metaphysics

                    Verse 1124
                    وَلَمْ يَكُن لَّهُ كُفُوًا أَحَدٌ

                    There is none known energy is like the One Energy. Nothing is equivalent to the One Energy. Everything ever existed is merely the manifestation (transformation of Energy) of this One Energy.

                    But you cannot will, unless Allah wills. (Quran 7630)
                    ​
                    Thus whether you like or hate Allah/ENERGY, you are worshipping this One Energy every moment of your life. You and even the whole universe have no choice (The value of "0&quot. Allah is Everything/ABSOLUTE (1)!

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                      Mazhar
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                      //ahhh .. you don't know, and that's why you said Energy can be destroyed.. laugh//

                      Mazhar Where did I say this which made you laugh?

                      Mahdi answers; What's wrong with your frontal lobe? (this always happen when people argue with the messengers) laugh

                      okay, please stick to the argument or perhaps you should take time to study "basic science" on the transformation of Energy ..

                      I am asking does energy transform into life? Your allah is light. I am asking you which light is this?

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                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                        //ahhh .. you don't know, and that's why you said Energy can be destroyed.. laugh//

                        Mazhar Where did I say this which made you laugh?

                        Mahdi answers; What's wrong with your frontal lobe? (this always happen when people argue with the messengers) laugh

                        I am asking does energy transform into life? Your allah is light. I am asking you which light is this?

                        Here it is ...

                        matter/energy is void of life.

                        That is terrible... ie. Energy can be destroyed.

                        I am asking you which light is this?

                        and why asking which light when I said ALLAH is THE LIGHT OF EVERYTHING..

                        THE ONE AND ABSOLUTE LIGHT..

                        Do you know the definition of Energy in Physics? laugh

                        https//images.slideplayer.com/14/4490787/slides/slide_1.jpg

                        ENERGY = "THE CAUSE OF ANY CHANGE"

                        So which energy/light?

                        See how funny is your question?

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                          Mazhar
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                          Re إِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ What have they disavowed?
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                          //ahhh .. you don't know, and that's why you said Energy can be destroyed.. laugh//

                          Mazhar Where did I say this which made you laugh?

                          Mahdi answers; What's wrong with your frontal lobe? (this always happen when people argue with the messengers) laugh

                          I am asking does energy transform into life? Your allah is light. I am asking you which light is this?

                          Here it is ...

                          Quote from Mazhar on Today at 110119 AM
                          matter/energy is void of life.

                          That is terrible...

                          and why asking which light when I said ALLAH is THE LIGHT OF EVERYTHING..

                          THE ONE AND ABSOLUTE LIGHT..

                          Do you know the definition of Energy in Physics? laugh

                          Now something wrong is becoming obvious in your frontal lobe. It thinks saying "matter/energy id void of life" means it is destroyed.

                          Is your allah white light or infrared light or some other light?

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                            Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                            Now something wrong is becoming obvious in your frontal lobe. It thinks saying "matter/energy id void of life" means it is destroyed.

                            Is your allah white light or infrared light or some other light?

                            Do you understand the following answer?

                            ENERGY = "THE CAUSE OF ANY CHANGE"

                            So which energy/light?

                            See how funny is your question?

                            That is BASIC SCIENCE! You are really funny.. laugh

                            We will strike the frontal lobe. (9615) ... Let him call on his gang (of 8 billion peoples). (9617)

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                              Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                              Issue Is Allah "the cause of any change (Energy)" ?

                              A. Yes
                              B. No

                              A or B?

                              There is no reality but ENERGY.

                              That is Allah, your LordLaw, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. There is no LordLaw but Him � so how are you deluded? (4062)

                              That is Allah, your LordLaw, There is no LordLaw but Him, ie. the Creator (Cause & Effect, Energy) of everything. So serve Him. He is responsible for everything. (6102)

                              Musa said "Allah is the LordLaw (Energy) of the East and the West AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. You would understand Allah if you USE REASON. (262

                              Of course.. .

                              They will not have arguments but will say “By Allah, our LordLaw, we were not polytheists.” Look! How they lie against themselves! The lie (unnature) will leave them what they invented. (623-24)

                              They think they deceive Allah and those who have iman.
                              They deceive no one but themselves but they are not aware of it (Joker). (29) laugh

                              so much for wishful thinking....

                              nothing about worshipping Allah at all.. but about worshipping the "self / society".. approval junkies.

                              إِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ What have they disavowed?

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                                إِنَّ ٱلَّذِینَ كَفَرُوا۟ What have they disavowed?

                                Life is short and we're not made responsible for all the laws of nature, but only these two categories

                                Main prohibition

                                Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you to approach that tree (of ecological justice)? Did I not warn you that (Human) Satan was your sworn enemy?" (722)

                                • Do not cut down the trees (preservation of ecological order, 235) https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52837032_2292460307637214_6380950598618972160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=89aa7c44a11f48b1de11e59be170813c&oe=5D04EDFC https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50683958_2276594285890483_8519042183934771200_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=9d869fa00326b8e12c960ffeae92e639&oe=5CEC2D5D https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50708425_2277761332440445_2782912304117710848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2638c4d59ab8399a400db17216bb38ab&oe=5CF1F5EC https//1.bp.blogspot.com/-PYt_NxabK5Y/XA6GWhpLhDI/AAAAAAAAAII/BVO5uW5EPg0OiNC4idXQjUzEnWecmwavgCLcBGAs/s1600/theme770.jpg

                                • Human shaytan is your enemy (good people disobey bad laws, ELSE bad people/human shaytan)

                                https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52729338_2292409424308969_9048642807224336384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2eea713f500d8905498083863237e38a&oe=5D4DD85A

                                If you avoid the major sins that you are forbidden against (722), then We will cancel your existing sins and admit you to a generous entrance. (431, 5822)

                                That's it... very simple.

                                On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

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                                  Mazhar
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                                  Life is short and we're not made responsible for all the laws of nature, but only these two categories

                                  Main prohibition

                                  Lord called to them, "Did I not forbid you to approach that tree (of ecological justice)? Did I not warn you that (Human) Satan was your sworn enemy?" (722)

                                  • Do not cut down the trees (preservation of ecological order, 235) https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52837032_2292460307637214_6380950598618972160_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=89aa7c44a11f48b1de11e59be170813c&oe=5D04EDFC https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50683958_2276594285890483_8519042183934771200_n.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=9d869fa00326b8e12c960ffeae92e639&oe=5CEC2D5D https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/50708425_2277761332440445_2782912304117710848_n.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2638c4d59ab8399a400db17216bb38ab&oe=5CF1F5EC https//1.bp.blogspot.com/-PYt_NxabK5Y/XA6GWhpLhDI/AAAAAAAAAII/BVO5uW5EPg0OiNC4idXQjUzEnWecmwavgCLcBGAs/s1600/theme770.jpg

                                  • Human shaytan is your enemy (good people disobey bad laws, ELSE bad people/human shaytan)

                                  https//scontent.fkul1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/52729338_2292409424308969_9048642807224336384_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fkul1-1.fna&oh=2eea713f500d8905498083863237e38a&oe=5D4DD85A

                                  If you avoid the major sins that you are forbidden against (722), then We will cancel your existing sins and admit you to a generous entrance. (431, 5822)

                                  That's it... very simple.

                                  On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (5030)

                                  Who is your lord who is calling you? Light/Energy or some living lord?

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                                    Who is your lord who is calling you? Light/Energy or some living lord?

                                    • You have no argument, no reason, no proof.

                                    • You accused all translators as pseudo-scholars / fake scholars and cannot justify your claims

                                    • You can't explain your inconsistencies.

                                    • You do not answer even one question in this thread.

                                    • You divert to irrelevant issues

                                    • You play stupid / trolling / argument by repetititon, and when I said there is no reality but Energy.

                                    • You failed in BASIC SCIENCE

                                    They will not have arguments but will say “By Allah, our LordLaw, we were not polytheists.” Look! How they lie against themselves! The lie (unnature) will leave them what they invented. (623-24)

                                    What is your answer?

                                    A or B?

                                    Issue Is Allah "the cause of any change (Energy)" ?

                                    A. Yes
                                    B. No

                                    A or B?

                                    Islam for kindergarten level.. haqeeqat rotfl

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                                      Quote from Mazhar on Yesterday at 113812 PM
                                      Who is your lord who is calling you? Light/Energy or some living lord?

                                      You have no argument, no reason, no proof.
                                      You accused all translators as pseudo-scholars / fake scholars and cannot justify your claims

                                      Why, instead of telling about your lord you go in bewilderment?

                                      I said George Sale was a pseudo-scholars; and about majority of later translators I said they were plagiarists. A mere glance on IslamAwakened proves it.

                                      You seem to be trapped in a vicious circle that the determining forces behind the reality of universe are causation, nature, and chance; and you think it is your lord, allah.

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                                        Mahdi_Ibrahim
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                                        You seem to be trapped in a vicious circle that the determining forces behind the reality of universe are causation, nature, and chance; and you think it is your lord, allah.

                                        So what is your answer?

                                        A or B?

                                        Issue Is Allah "the cause of any change (Energy)" ?

                                        A. Yes
                                        B. No

                                        A or B?

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                                          Mazhar
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                                          Where is this question written in the Book about which you are talking about?

                                          And what is the word for Energy in the Book you are studying?

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