Ramadan : Does Verse 2:184 is abrogated by 2:185 ?
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Hello everyone,
In this period of the traditional month of "Ramadan" let me address a topic that caused a problem for Koranic interpreters in the past and now.
Indeed, in 2184 the word "ma'ddat" with the Alif and the Ta at the end suggests what is called in Arabic "djama`u qila" ie a Low number between 3 and 10 days.
Others evidence?
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Classical Arabic Dictionary (Kazimirski and Lane's lexicon)
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The verses of the Qur'an that use this specific form (Except 2184) confirm this Arabic usage
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(2203 5) And remember God during a few number of days. Whoever hurries to two days, there is no sin upon him; and whoever delays, there is no one who is being righteous. And be aware of God, and know that it is to be gathered.
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(3 24 9) That is because they said "The Fire will not touch us except for a few days," and they were arrogant by what they invented in their system.
=> 7 days as the number of days in one Week (see Tafsir from "ibn kathir" = in English too)
BUT the problem is that the Quran seems to tell us in 2185 to "fast" 1 whole lunar month is about 29-30 days! We are far from the few days that we can count on the hand!
How to solve this problem ? Here are the interpretations I found (in my point of view they are not really acceptable)
- Abrogation by the Hadtihs
Muslim https//www.islamicfinder.org/hadith/muslim/fasting/2687/
Bukhari https//hamariweb.com/islam/hadith/sahih-bukhari-4507/
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They made a distinction between the revelation period of verses 2183-184 (the most recent) and that of 2185 (the latest).
So at the beginning the "Muslims" were playing like the Jews for three days until they broke up with them as a separate community that imposed 30 days (Ramadan month) by the Koran. We are not far from abrogation. -
The word "ma'ddat" does not mean a very limited number of days (<= 10 days) but simply "counted", "numbered", "enumerated" .. in contradiction with the linguistic arguments that I mentioned above.
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The word "shahru" in 2185 does not mean 1 whole lunar month but refers to the first crescent moon after the new moon or full moon.
But the Koran says "shahru" = lunar month (because visible to the naked eye).
And the other Quranic verses use this meaning in a "whole month" way.
Furthermore, and as I pointed out in another recently post here, the word "To Fast" in English as in French is an intransitive verb (no object) that can not apply to 1 month or 1 crescent moon; which contradicts the expression "(2185 17) - falyaum'hu (hu = PRON - 3rd person masculine singular object pronoun)
So to your reflections to solve this apparent contradiction! (if we believe that the Koran contains no contradiction of course ..)
And sorry if an acceptable solution has already be found in this big forum.
Peace
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I think we need to check the root word of Shahru
Shiin-ha-Ra = make it notable/known/manifest/public/infamous (in a bad or good sense), hire/contract for a month, stay a month, month old, month, new moon, moon, full moon, any evil thing that exposes its author to disgrace, a vice/fault or the like, big & bulky, reputable/eminent.
shahr n.m. (pl. shuhur and ashur) 2185, 2185, 2194, 2194, 2197, 2217, 2226, 2234, 492, 52, 597, 92, 95, 936, 936, 3412, 3412, 4615, 584, 654, 973
LL, V4, p 336, 337 ##http//ejtaal.net/aa/#q=shhr
Plus in 2185
2185 شهر رمضان الذى انزل فيه القرءان هدى للناس وبينات من الهدىا والفرقان فمن شهد منكم الشهر فليصمه ومن كان مريضا او علىا سفر فعدة من ايام اخر يريد الله بكم اليسر ولا يريد بكم العسر ولتكملوا العدة ولتكبروا الله علىا ما هدىاكم ولعلكم تشكرون
Shahru ramadana allatheeonzila feehi alqur-anu hudan lilnnasiwabayyinatin mina alhuda waalfurqanifaman shahida minkumu alshshahra falyasumhu waman kanamareedan aw AAala safarin faAAiddatun min ayyaminokhara yureedu Allahu bikumu alyusra wala yureedubikumu alAAusra walitukmiloo alAAiddata walitukabbiroo AllahaAAala ma hadakum walaAAallakum tashkuroona
The month of Ramadhan, in which the Qur'an was revealed; as a guide to the people and clarities from the guidance and the Criterion. Whoever of you witnesses the month, then let him fast it. And whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and magnify God for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.It says whoever WITNESSES/SHAHIDA the Shahra. My question is, how do you witness a Month? You can however, witness a Full Moon like this one
https//c.tadst.com/gfx/750x500/full-moon.png?1
You can check out videos by a sister known as Simply Muslim who touched on Ramadan
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXvBSB7o_-Q
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvuVsqqP_lw
https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPjv5w4eVBg
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Plus i noticed that wa or thumma is not mentioned in 2185. Now i can be wrong but this could indicate that 2184 & 2185 may not be related (Again, i could be incorrect).
EDIT I have found something that may change my mind on this reply i made
From https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOG1XeZ0xzI&lc=UgzCbhiaRTElgYeMYqx4AaABAg.8h5WVczSHNL8h7KkbOvG9Y
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Peace be upon you dear brother John,
It is always wonderful reading from you dear brother.
<<<1. If it takes an expert in classical Arabic years to figure this out, what hope for everyone else, especially when it claims that it is a clear book that everyone can understand?>>>
To be clear, I do not consider myself an 'expert' in the language. I understand it, I am fluent in it, but I am in no way some grammarian or been to language school or such
I understand how this can be frustrating particularly for those relying on translations. However, we need to keep in mind that the true Quranic message has been buried under centuries of traditions, customs, biases, and misinterpretations, and it is only now that some scholars of the Arabic world are starting to truly grasp the Quranic message at its pristine condition. And lots of traditionalists are fighting back to preserve these traditions! So it will take time for the Qurans true message to prevail, but I personally see it happening everyday in the Arab world.
<<<For instance, it could have indicated explicitly that the moon appears bigger or appears red/orange, or that it is not when the month starts but when the moon is full. And furthermore, the fast is ONLY for those very specific days DURING the month of Ramadan. Yet it doesn't. >>>>
My contention is based on the fact that God speaks of AYMAN MADOODAT (countable days) in 2184 and then He speaks of 'the month' in 2185. Both of these terms are connected by 'the counts' or AL-'IDDAH which are both mentioned in 2184 and 185. So it seemed to me the 'countable number' of days is within the 'month' that we are supposed to abstain.
The Quran is very clear that month is reliant on the moon phases. I do contend that SHAHR RAMADAN is called such specifically because of the occurrence of the harvest moon - which is a distinct characteristic of the moon unique to the entire year. It also connects why God speaks of AYAMAN MADOODAT (countable days) in 2184 which is how long the harvest moon lasts during this month.
<<< 2 I had always thought that 2184 is directly linked to 2185, but it doesn't seem that way. I now read the verses as meaning two separate fasts are required. One, the whole lunisolar month of Ramadan. Two, other days as well ("days numbered" or "limited days" are the translations I've seen), which are left to the believer to decide, a very personalised attitude that runs throughout the Quran (just as how much money to give to charity is left to the individual, so the amount of extra days fasting is left to the individual). The Quran doesn't want people fasting every day or for most of the year, so it simply says "limited days", that is you choose how many and when.>>>>
At one point I thought the same. I felt it may be referring to two different 'fasts' and I would not dismiss this idea as valid. But to be fair, it is NOT very clear that it is two different fasts either.
However, if we pay attention to the entire passage we will see they are all connected and referring to the same SIYAM
One method I used is to actually remove the verse-stops and connect 2184 to 185 and 186. We will see the verses actually flow into one another as ONE complete thought
"O you who believe, ordained upon you is the SIYAM (withholding)... that you may become guarded a countable number of days. So whoever of you is ill or traveling then a number of other days... and to SIYAM is best for you if you only knew month of Ramadan... So whoever witnesses the month he shall withhold/abstain it... God wishes ease for you and... to complete the numbers..."
So by removing the verse-stops we see these three verses flow nicely into one another.
<<<<3. The "extremes" you reference could just as easily mean the ends of the moon cycle. What is more extreme than the sudden appearance of a new moon, signifying the start of a new month? All other months are determined in this fashion, and so why shouldn't the month of Ramadan? The month "Ramadan" existed in pre-Islamic Arabia. The Quran is referring to something that the initial direct recipients of the Quran understood this particular month that you call Ramadan, and in which the Quran was revealed, is the one you fast. >>>>
I do contend that Ramadan may refer to the 'extreme' display of the moon as red and large.
To my understanding, the month starts and ends with a crescent as noted by the verses I cited in the video. The full-moon takes place in the nearing parts of the middle of the month.
But when God says 'countable number of days' and 'whoever witnesses the month abstain it' the connection becomes in reference to a specific number of days. The only significance to Ramadan is the event of the Harvest moon.
<<<<4. Lastly, and probably more controversially, why should sighting the Harvest moon be a requirement to knowing when to fast? What if it's overcast and nobody sees it where you're living? You would have missed the start of the fast for no reason whatever. >>>>
Well this is the same argument made by traditionlists who insist the need to see a crescent moon with the naked eye. The fact is the harvest moon is simply the nearest full-moon to the equinox - plus at least one day before and one day after. This can be easily calculated without problems.
<<<<Not that it's necessarily relevant but fasting for a whole month is something that was demanded of previous receivers of scripture (see various verses of the Bible) and the surrounding monotheists would have understood, especially a lunisolar month. >>>>
I have not read the bible, but I have inquired with several people and asked them about any ordinance to fast in the bible. I've been told, and please correct me if I am wrong, there is not a verse that commands the people to fast. The ONLY verse that actually commands fasting is ONE day on YAWM KAPUR. I would be interested to see any verse which tells the believers to fast.
<<<Fasting during an indistinct and easily missed few days when the moon changes doesn't fit the Quran and would seem pagan to the monotheists in the Arabia of the Prophet. >>>
As noted in the video, the entire passage of 2183-188 isn't speaking of 'fasting' from food or drink or sex. This is a huge culture mix that, unfortunately, crept into Islam. The SIYAM spoken of in this passage is to be observed on the Harvest moon days/nights. This will be clarified in the next video God willing.
Peace and God Bless you brother.
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Salam Wakas,
Is it intransitive in Arabic though?
http//corpus.quran.com/qurandictionary.jsp?q=Swm#(218517)No it is transitive.
You may also find this interesting
http//islam-and-muslims.com/timing.htmlThank you for the link.
I know this article.
I have great respect for his research work and his willingness to discover the historical reality behind the layers of sedimentation of generations following the revelation and death of the prophet.
I am agree with somes aspects But I do not agree with him on some crucial points.Major disagreements
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He said "A common misconception is that the word" shahr "means month. However, the term "shahr" does not mean month "
=> NO the word "shahr" means full month but the full lunar month because it is identifiable (visible) with the view by looking at the lunar phases.
=> In addition all other occurrences of this word in the quran point to 1 whole month or several months. -
He said "2185. The full moon of scorching heat is when the reading was descended as a guidance for people and clarifications from the guidance and the criterion, so whomever witnesses the full-moon, let him abstain it "
=> Incomprehensible translation into English. He does not use the verb "To fast" which is instransitive. It's a good point. The word "To abstain" certainly is more appropriate in relation with the deep meaning of the root word but how to abstain from a full moon?
In English this sentence does not make sense.
Unless the pronoun "it" points to a word other than the word "full moon" but it is not the intention of the author -
He said "Ramadan can be translated as the moment of diffussion of "intense heat".
=> He identifies this month around the summer solstice. But it is too early in the season to reflect the significance of the month of Ramadan). Based on the roots and research of historians, the first 5 months of the year areThe Arabic name of the months, especially that of the two rabia (rabia al awal and rabia ath-thani) was to correspond to spring, before the two dry months of joumada (joumada al oula and joumada ath-thania) and the "burning" month" of Ramadan so perhaps in august (like the month of av for the jews) or in september (if we follow the actual order by name, 9th month from january to december). -
He said "936. The count of the full-moons with The God is twelve full-moons in The God's book the day He created the heavens and the earth; four of them are restricted. This is the correct obligation; so do not wrong yourselves in them; The God is with the forethoughtful.
My translation
"True/Indeed, the counting (enumerate) of months for God is twelve lunar months by a decree of God the day He created the heavens and the earth. Among them, four are sacred, this is the right custom / ad-din al-qayyim. During do not be unfair to yourself . But, fight the polytheists in all these times, just as they fight you there; and know that God is with those who fear him. ", S9.V36.
=> The purpose of this verse is pragmatic God gives you the opportunity to fight those who transgress the truce by fighting you in these sacred months, even though you yourself refused to do so out of respect for this sacredness. Apart from rationalist arguments, this information confirms that the term sacrality is contractual and that it is obviously not a divine prescription but a tradition instituted by the Arabs themselves, the historical fact is well During these four months, the Bedouins could move to trade without fear of an attack or to go to safety on various pilgrimages.
Peace
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Shahru ramadana allatheeonzila feehi alqur-anu hudan lilnnasiwabayyinatin mina alhuda waalfurqanifaman shahida minkumu alshshahra falyasumhu waman kanamareedan aw AAala safarin faAAiddatun min ayyaminokhara yureedu Allahu bikumu alyusra wala yureedubikumu alAAusra walitukmiloo alAAiddata walitukabbiroo AllahaAAala ma hadakum walaAAallakum tashkuroona
The month of Ramadhan, in which the Qur'an was revealed; as a guide to the people and clarities from the guidance and the Criterion. Whoever of you witnesses the month, then let him fast it. And whoever is ill or traveling, then the same number from different days. God wants to bring you ease and not to bring you hardship; and so that you may complete the count, and magnify God for what He has guided you, that you may be thankful.It says whoever WITNESSES/SHAHIDA the Shahra. My question is, how do you witness a Month? You can however, witness a Full Moon like this one
Salam Sardar,
First point in red Sorry I repeat again but the verb "To fast" is INTRANSITIVE so you canno't say in English "fast IT". How do you fast a full-moon ?
Second point in red you are right. We canno't witness (with eyes) a full month. But you can attest the Truth of Something happen in this month right ? Look at the specific scheme "SHAHIDA" in the quran and you will discover that it is Matching better with the definition of "to attest the Truth of Something" in many cases.
I want to add that in real life you testify/witness Something that it was happened in the PAST...NB Thank you for the video links
Peace
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Salam Safar,
First point in red Sorry I repeat again but the verb "To fast" is INTRANSITIVE so you canno't say in English "fast IT". How do you fast a full-moon ?
I am a little confused, didn't you said to Wakas, "No it is transitive" ?
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I am a little confused, didn't you said to Wakas, "No it is transitive" ?
In Arabic, the verb falyaum'hu in 2185 (from SIYAM) doesn't mean "To fast".
This arabic verb is transitive while "to fast" in english is intransitive.
So to translate by "Fast IT" is grammatically incorrect..
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In Arabic, the verb falyaum'hu in 2185 (from SIYAM) doesn't mean "To fast".
This arabic verb is transitive while "to fast" in english is intransitive.
So to translate by "Fast IT" is grammatically incorrect..
Hope it is more clear.What is the pattern (Baab) of this verb?
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Please we are deviating from my original post on this subject.
how to reconcile the month of Ramadan (29-30 days) with the expression "ayyman maddtin" (3-10 days) ?I wrote as to what the word is to enable perceiving its meanings.
Passive Participle indefinite; sound plural; feminine; genitive/ accusative.
I don't know from where you got its meanings as
Low number between 3 and 10 days. -
I wrote as to what the word is to enable perceiving its meanings.
Passive Participle indefinite; sound plural; feminine; genitive/ accusative.
I don't know from where you got its meanings as
Have a look at my first post ! But i made a mistake (bad reflex) => It is not Lane's lexicon but Lisan al-Arab ! sorry. ???
Ok i repeat it again
- Classic Dictionnary
1 / In the li?an al-3arab (dico reference), we read "ayy?m ma3d?d?t" corresponds to ten days but literally it means "a limited number of days".
2 / In Kazimirski (very good dico Arabic-French), one can also read "ayy?m ma3d?da" means "few days".
=> In short, what must be remembered is that this expression literally means a limited number of days but that, in the quran, it corresponds to 3 to 10-
Quran re-read my first post for quranic examples (confirmation)
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For the Grammatical rule
Ayyaman is a plural with 3 minimum and no maximum and ma3doudatin just block this plural to 10
for the rule of the plural in "alif ta" I refer to Nouman ali Khan -
Have a look at my first post ! But i made a mistake (bad reflex) => It is not Lane's lexicon but Lisan al-Arab ! sorry. ???
Ok i repeat it again
- Classic Dictionnary
1 / In the li?an al-3arab (dico reference), we read "ayy?m ma3d?d?t" corresponds to ten days but literally it means "a limited number of days".
2 / In Kazimirski (very good dico Arabic-French), one can also read "ayy?m ma3d?da" means "few days".
=> In short, what must be remembered is that this expression literally means a limited number of days but that, in the quran, it corresponds to 3 to 10-
Quran re-read my first post for quranic examples (confirmation)
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For the Grammatical rule
Ayyaman is a plural with 3 minimum and no maximum and ma3doudatin just block this plural to 10
for the rule of the plural in "alif ta" I refer to Nouman ali Khan.
Where is it (3 blocked to 10 days)
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Where is it (3 blocked to 10 days)
You know Brother classical dictionnary are useful but keep in mind that you can find almost all what you want to justify your OWN interpretation of texts (quran here - Cf. below).
This research must be confirmed by EVIDENCES (quran himself first, real history..).So let me show you again ?vidences by searching the expression "Ayyaman/Ayyamin ma'doodat.." (in four occurrences inclued 2184)
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(2203) (280 is similar) And remember God during a few limited number of days. Whoever hurries to two days, there is no sin upon him; and whoever delays, there is no one who is being righteous. And be aware of God, and know that it is to be gathered.
=> 3 days (Hajj) -
(324) That is because they said "The Fire will not touch us except for a few limited days," and they were arrogant by what they invented in their system.
=> 7 days as the number of days in one Week (see Tafsir from "ibn kathir" and the importance of the number 7 for the jews)
I can also add the fifth occurrences as Passive participle / Adjective (without Ayyam..)
- (220) And they sold him for a low price, a mere few dirhams, and they regarded him as insignificant.
=> Few coins like <= 10
----- CAUTIOUS - lexical entries -----
Lexical Analysis obviously uses the dictionaries of the classical Arabic language.
However, this step requires some precautions, because we must be aware that Koranic Arabic is not classical Arabic and, since it is not really a living language, the first major encyclopaedias of the Arabic language do not do not necessarily present a synchronic state of the Qur'anic vocabulary.
In reality, the Koranic language and, at present, its vocabulary, are only partly known to us through the oriented prism of the first exegesis of the Koran.
From the beginning, the first dictionaries had the ambition to fix the canon of the Arabic language, not so much from the Koranic language, but from a linguistic normalization of the Koran. This was achieved gradually by the collection of a lexical fund drawn from the various idioms of Arabia as well as by the use of so-called pre-Islamic poetry, but also by the broad influence of Orthodox Exegesis on the way of constitution. On this last point, it is easy to note that the history of the elaboration of these corpus reveals strong diachronic and anachronistic circular links between the lexicons of the Arabic language and Exegesis.
Thus, it seems that the oldest known lexicon of the Arabic language is the kitab al-'ayn of Ibn Amad al-Far?hid? . However, in establishing the meanings of terms, the latter has very often resorted to terminological explanations drawn directly from exegeses of the Koran. As a result, this phenomenon will be more and more marked as evidenced by the lexicon of the Quranic terms of Ar-Ragib al-Ifah?n? Mufradat alf? al-qur'?n, end of the 6th century H.The loop is completed when the compilation of the great encyclopaedia of the Arabic language Al-lis?n al-'arab completed by Muhammad ibn Man?r at the end of the seventh century hegira.
Finally, in a concrete way, note that if these large lexical Arabic corpus quote their exegetical or hadistic sources, the current bilingual classical dictionaries do not report them unfortunately, which has the consequence of increasing the lexical indistinction and amplifying the lexical drift during translation processes.
In the end, it is a good part of the Koranic vocabulary that has been reduced in meaning or, on the contrary, amplified according to exegetical and legal developments subsequent to the Koran. -
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There exists in Spanish the expression "Something (whatever) counted". This Arabic ma3dudaat recalls it. It does not mean a specific, exact number of days, but rather a number which is not specified but that is limited and logically should allo to be counted without spending unreasonable time or efforts. Dependign on the matter it could mean that it does not go very far for certain purposes.
My feeling is that it does nto set a fixed number, but rather a number which may be tailored to the needs and capacities of the concerned person. Which is also consistent with the general outlook of the Qur'an which tends to give freedom to each one to tailor his or her own way through whatever process which may be undertaken.
If somebody is not capable for whatever reason to fast one month, may be a number of days is better tha nothing, right? Do not refrain for doing the lesser just because you are nto able to do the greatest.
Salaam
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There exists in Spanish the expression "Something (whatever) counted". This Arabic ma3dudaat recalls it. It does not mean a specific, exact number of days, but rather a number which is not specified but that is limited and logically should allo to be counted without spending unreasonable time or efforts. Dependign on the matter it could mean that it does not go very far for certain purposes.
My feeling is that it does nto set a fixed number, but rather a number which may be tailored to the needs and capacities of the concerned person. Which is also consistent with the general outlook of the Qur'an which tends to give freedom to each one to tailor his or her own way through whatever process which may be undertaken.
If somebody is not capable for whatever reason to fast one month, may be a number of days is better tha nothing, right? Do not refrain for doing the lesser just because you are nto able to do the greatest.
Salaam
Salam Huruf,
Thank you for your intervention.
Indeed from a relative point of view you are right. If you think the Qur'an is talking about a month of fasting based on a lunar calendar then I wish you a good Ramadan and God send you his graces so that you get closer to him (like my wife ! ).
And if you are faithful to God and you do good works then we are brothers in faith and even better, beyond that we are brothers in humanity first.Now my target is to understand what the Qur'an actually says (whether it is in agreement or not with our traditional understandings), which speaks to an Arab people of the 7th century who had their linguistic uses that could evolve thereafter.
And the use of this era was to use the expression "Ayyaman ma'doodat" as meaning a very limited number of days between 3 and 10, as evidenced by the Koran itself. After, everyone is free to accept it or not.
Same, when I see the English translations of the passage of 2185 by using the expression "Fast it" it is my duty to emphasize the fact that this expression is incorrect grammatically. This is a truthful fact. Muhammad ASAD saw the problem and he added the word "throughout it" or Corpus.coran to add the word "in it" that does not appear in the Arabic expression. God warns us enough in the Qur'an not to change the meaning. Then everyone is free to accept the truth or not.Peace
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Yes the formulation is unusual. If you mean somebody todo the whole month, there are many ways which you can underlie that it is indeed the whole month. The formulation, to me, suggests tht you are conscious of it, of the occasion, the month for the purpose or in the purpose of fasting. You might fast any number of days or months on some other ocassions, but you are told to fast this one. It may mean that you become conscious that you are part of a community who remembers God and all those things that are touched by the fast, like the consciousness of those who may suffer from want or hunger, all living beings. So the important thing in this case would not be the number of days or how hard you do fast but rather that you do it as part of a common endeavour to improve the sould of your society with the people who shares your same aims and spiritual endeavour.
Salaam
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There exists in Spanish the expression "Something (whatever) counted". This Arabic ma3dudaat recalls it. It does not mean a specific, exact number of days, but rather a number which is not specified but that is limited and logically should allo to be counted without spending unreasonable time or efforts.
Take note that they (Clergy) told people, "The Fire will certainly never touch us except for a period of numbered days".
You question them, "Have you people succeeded in obtaining a contract from Allah the Exalted in this regard? If that is the case, Allah the Exalted will never breach His contracted obligation!
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Or, that not being the case, are you people attributing to Allah the Exalted that about which you have no knowledge?"
Take note; if Our Majesty delayed the infliction of punishment from them towards a determined/counted period (respite period) they would certainly say "What detains that infliction?"
The fact is that the Day it comes to them it will not be averted from them.
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And that hemmed them about which they consciously adopted a non serious jesting attitude keeping themselves playful with.
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Beware, Our Majesty are postponing it but for the terminating moment of a determined duration.
And they (the caravan merchants) sold him (minor boy Yu'suf) at the lowered bargain price, by settled number of Dirhams ?
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While they (the caravan people) were interested more to give him away-get rid of him.
The Passive Participle (derived from passive verb) refers to something which is counted by number. Its exact number-quantity is not disclosed.
Take note that they (Clergy) told people, "The Fire will certainly never touch us except for a period of numbered days".
You question them, "Have you people succeeded in obtaining a contract from Allah the Exalted in this regard? If that is the case, Allah the Exalted will never breach His contracted obligation!
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Or, that not being the case, are you people attributing to Allah the Exalted that about which you have no knowledge?"
The Fasting is during a fixed number of days; day and night-29 or 30 of the lunar month.
Sequel to this imposition one may adjourn it who is suffering amongst you some sickness or is embarking on a journey. Thereby, the adjourned fasting be accomplished to the count during the days of another month.
And you people remember and celebrate Allah the Exalted during appointed days ?
For reason that someone hurried back in two days there is not at all blemish-worthy is upon such person, and he who postponed his departure there is not at all blemish-worthy him, too. This is for one who did it consciously in the cause of Allah the Exalted .
This eluding from the Book (Qur?n) they justify by proclaiming; "The Hell-Fire will certainly not touch us in the Hereafter except for a period of numbered days".
http//haqeeqat.pk/Quran.Corpus-1.htm
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Salam!
I think are (upto) 10 since almost every human being can count fingers of his/her hands with a very little effort.
If AQ is a universal messahe then its rulings should be applicable worldwide. Yet I am not 100% sure about this number. Need solid proof.
Peace!
