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Fellow females, do any of you still wear the hijab

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    Sarah
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    Peace,

    If you do, why? If not and you used to wear it, how did you find transitioning into a non-hijab wearer? Was it hard? Did you feel exposed the first weeks? do you ever miss wearing it? Do people treat you differently now that you don't wear it?

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      Peace,

      If you do, why? If not and you used to wear it, how did you find transitioning into a non-hijab wearer? Was it hard? Did you feel exposed the first weeks? do you ever miss wearing it? Do people treat you differently now that you don't wear it?

      Peace, I only wore hijab out in public a few times just to see what it's like. I noticed people stared more and white women were friendlier towards me.

      I do feel bad for all the women that are forced to keep it on because they'll be harassed by hateful traditional Muslims..

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        I wore it as an experiment when I was 19 for about 4 months. I never believed in it (I was a Submitter/Rashad Khalifa follower at the time) but I was desperate to convince Sunnis to become Submitters so to infiltrate their groups I figured I better resemble them so they trust me and then will listen to me telling them all about the 19 code. Didn't work. They just got annoyed and I can't believe I wasted my time. I stopped wearing it when I realised there was nothing to be gained by befriending Sunnis any more.

        I did attract some odd looks since where I lived at the time it was like 99.9% white in my town and there were no Muslims living there at all that I knew of. The local people didn't know what to make of me and some guessed that I was becoming Hindu or even Buddhist!
        confused

        Nobody thought it was weird when I stopped wearing it since I just went back to normal (I'm a white British convert). I think my family were relieved that my Muslim Phase as they saw it was over. Except that it wasn't haha.

        I didn't feel exposed when I stopped nor did I miss it. I was glad to give it up because by then it was summer and I was too hot all the time. I was disturbed also by how much my hearing was weaker when my ears were covered with fabric and how brittle my hair got, probably from my scalp not being able to breathe properly and/or from my hair being wrapped tight constantly. It was miserable and I feel so sorry for the women who are forced to wear it their whole lives.

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          I wore the headscarf a few times at one point. I also wanted to start wearing the abaya but it didn't happen. No one made me wear it so taking it off wasn't that difficult either.

          Now I don't feel it's necessary or even compulsory. But I do still believe in modest/decent dressing (for both men and women) and that it's an Islamic concept.

          Also, it's fine if other women want to wear the headscarf/abaya as long as they don't judge others harshly, bother them about it or treat them badly.
          I also don't really believe it's going to protect someone from sexual assault.

          I do understand that more outward appearing Muslim women are more likely to be victims of islamophobia which is very wrong.

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            Amra94
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            After pondering over the verses about womens dress code, I think I'm gonna start wearing full hijab. One verse that sticks out to me is

            2460 And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire for marriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their (outer) garments not displaying adornment. But to modestly refrain is better for them. And God is Hearing and Knowing.

            So older women are allowed to relax their dress code which imo means dressing somewhat modestly without a headcover or super loose or long clothing as long as it's not revealing since they're still supposed to refrain from displaying adornment. The dress code for younger believing women is supposed to be way more modest which is why to me wearing hijab and long loose fitting clothing makes sense.

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              https//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=34

              The following verse shows being clothed is the norm but makes it clear that flexibility is allowed in certain situations, as long as we are mindful of modesty. The context is etiquette within the household

              And the women who are past child bearing and who do not seek to get married have no sin upon them if they discard their garments*, provided they do not show off with their beauty. If they abstain, then it is better for them. God is Hearer, Knower.
              *Arabic word is "thiyab" and refers to ordinary clothes/gowns.

              All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                After pondering over the verses about womens dress code, I think I'm gonna start wearing full hijab. One verse that sticks out to me is

                2460 And women of post-menstrual age who have no desire for marriage - there is no blame upon them for putting aside their (outer) garments not displaying adornment. But to modestly refrain is better for them. And God is Hearing and Knowing.

                So older women are allowed to relax their dress code which imo means dressing somewhat modestly without a headcover or super loose or long clothing as long as it's not revealing since they're still supposed to refrain from displaying adornment. The dress code for younger believing women is supposed to be way more modest which is why to me wearing hijab and long loose fitting clothing makes sense.

                I see wearing something on head is very much cultural and optional.. But wearing below neck is almost must for women apart from what is apparent.. ...

                In Quranic point of view...
                Apart from regular instructive verses like the link provided by Waqas..
                I see not the two women at the well for whome Musa assisted were covering their entire body...

                I don't see the women converged at the request of the wife of Aziz (chapter 12)were fully covering... Verses don't depicts so... But with their dialogue they seem Muslim... And believe in God..

                And I don't see in verse 3352 that women were fully covered so that no one can see their beauty.. Being a prophet it seems their beauty can attract him.. So.. In my understanding fully covered women with loose cloths never attracts anyone..coz you don't see a women in that dress.. It shows Mohamed has seen the women what is naturally apparent... Face is identity to like a person first.. So it shows in those societies (Yousuf, Musa, Mohamed) women and that also Muslim women not covering complete body.... Coupled with that even God never seems to be ordering to do so..
                That's my take..
                But wearing hijab for attraction and beauty while not calling a rule from God.. I don't see anything wrong.. coz God says garments are to cover private parts as well for beauty.. There is no beauty when women are sealed to bottom with black dress.. That's cultural torture.. Hard to breath one month with this face mask... Wonder how they live fully covered for life... That's not God's nature..

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                  I see wearing something on head is very much cultural and optional.. But wearing below neck is almost must for women apart from what is apparent.. ...

                  In Quranic point of view...
                  Apart from regular instructive verses like the link provided by Waqas..
                  I see not the two women at the well for whome Musa assisted were covering their entire body...

                  I don't see the women converged at the request of the wife of Aziz (chapter 12)were fully covering... Verses don't depicts so... But with their dialogue they seem Muslim... And believe in God..

                  And I don't see in verse 3352 that women were fully covered so that no one can see their beauty.. Being a prophet it seems their beauty can attract him.. So.. In my understanding fully covered women with loose cloths never attracts anyone..coz you don't see a women in that dress.. It shows Mohamed has seen the women what is naturally apparent... Face is identity to like a person first.. So it shows in those societies (Yousuf, Musa, Mohamed) women and that also Muslim women not covering complete body.... Coupled with that even God never seems to be ordering to do so..
                  That's my take..
                  But wearing hijab for attraction and beauty while not calling a rule from God.. I don't see anything wrong.. coz God says garments are to cover private parts as well for beauty.. There is no beauty when women are sealed to bottom with black dress.. That's cultural torture.. Hard to breath one month with this face mask... Wonder how they live fully covered for life... That's not God's nature..

                  What would be the point of describing these womens dress code.. It doesnt say they didnt cover their bodies either so you're just assuming they weren't covered. Why not look at how Christians depict Mary, that's prob how believing women dressed. I didnt mention face veil but a headscarf and long loose clothing like a dress doesnt hide your natural body size or face so men can still be interested in marrying you.

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                    Amra94
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                    https//www.misconceptions-about-islam.com/misconception.php?id=34

                    The following verse shows being clothed is the norm but makes it clear that flexibility is allowed in certain situations, as long as we are mindful of modesty. The context is etiquette within the household

                    And the women who are past child bearing and who do not seek to get married have no sin upon them if they discard their garments*, provided they do not show off with their beauty. If they abstain, then it is better for them. God is Hearer, Knower.
                    *Arabic word is "thiyab" and refers to ordinary clothes/gowns.

                    Hmm why would it single older women out if the context is within the household only when it should apply for any woman and the other verse (2431) essentially says what you're saying for women in general.

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                      My only question mark on dress code was 2460, as I couldn't prove if it meant discard clothes in general (less likely), or in the house (more likely, due to context), or something else. But now having thought about it, if we take into consideration privacy in times of undress when others must seek permission to be among you at these times, and who revealing of "total beauty" applies to, then it implies (proves?) it is wthin the household. This would also imply that maintaining the minimum dress code with those mentioned in 2431 is better for us or the norm, unless there is a reason, e.g. 2460.

                      Also connects to previous verse with "wa".

                      All information is correct to the best of my knowledge only and thus should not be taken as a fact. One should always seek knowledge and verify for themselves when possible: 17:36, 20:114, 35:28, 49:6, 58:11.

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                        This is my story from the holidays I take with the Tuaregs on the border of Algeria and Mali..
                        I like to spend time (two weeks, sometimes more) with these wonderful people, and I am now accustomed to their dress code.Both men and women wear some kind of hijab.This has nothing to do with religion, it is to do with the harsh climate especially the sand storms.
                        This is to protect all the body and especially the face .
                        I feel comfortable in a robe(men s )and a turban with a face cover where only the eyes are uncovered, sometimes even the eyes are covered with a see thriugh cloth face cover ( part of the hijab/turban).

                        Their story is the same story of hundreds of generations experience before them of the Sahara climate and its survival.

                        The hijab compliments the way of life over there and is necessary regardless of the religion or its requirements.
                        Obviously, Qoran "modest dress" requirement is open to interpretations and traditions.
                        I do not think the hijab is necessary in some parts of the world where the dress code is different . GOD wants us to be "modest" not uncomfortable or odd. Also is it necessary?
                        Obviously, it is also a choice for most individuals. Those that are forced, the simple fact for them is they are controlled and oppressed in most cases also.
                        In a way it is wrong to take GOD s freedom of choice from individuals if they do not affect others and they are not corrupt or bad.
                        GOD bless you all.
                        Peace.

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                          Amra94
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                          So 2460 says that even within the household it is better to refrain from removing garments. With all the details about dress code it seems like covering up more is always the way to go.

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                            This is my story from the holidays I take with the Tuaregs on the border of Algeria and Mali..
                            I like to spend time (two weeks, sometimes more) with these wonderful people, and I am now accustomed to their dress code.Both men and women wear some kind of hijab.This has nothing to do with religion, it is to do with the harsh climate especially the sand storms.
                            This is to protect all the body and especially the face .
                            I feel comfortable in a robe(men s )and a turban with a face cover where only the eyes are uncovered, sometimes even the eyes are covered with a see thriugh cloth face cover ( part of the hijab/turban).

                            Their story is the same story of hundreds of generations experience before them of the Sahara climate and its survival.

                            The hijab compliments the way of life over there and is necessary regardless of the religion or its requirements.
                            Obviously, Qoran "modest dress" requirement is open to interpretations and traditions.
                            I do not think the hijab is necessary in some parts of the world where the dress code is different . GOD wants us to be "modest" not uncomfortable or odd. Also is it necessary?
                            Obviously, it is also a choice for most individuals. Those that are forced, the simple fact for them is they are controlled and oppressed in most cases also.
                            In a way it is wrong to take GOD s freedom of choice from individuals if they do not affect others and they are not corrupt or bad.
                            GOD bless you all.
                            Peace.

                            Hijabis are only uncomfortable because of rude people and who cares if it's odd to disbelievers. Judgmental Christian's are hypocrites they depict Mary with a hijab.

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                              Peace Amra94.
                              Thank you for youe comment sister.
                              I have heard both sides from women. Some find it comfortable others find it restrictive.
                              It is up to individuals.
                              When I covered my face during my visits to Africa, I found it necessary and useful.
                              I cretainly would not judge anyone on what they choose to wear.
                              When it comes to dressing styles I will only argue for modesty and covering private parts. I do not consider head, arms or some parts of the legs as priivate parts,
                              But individuals are free to cover what they choose to cover.
                              As far as I know GOD has instructed modesty and respect from both sexes and left some choice of details,style and fashions of clothes up to us in Qoran.
                              GOD bless you.
                              Peace.

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                                Amra94
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                                Peace Amra94.
                                Thank you for youe comment sister.
                                I have heard both sides from women. Some find it comfortable others find it restrictive.
                                It is up to individuals.
                                When I covered my face during my visits to Africa, I found it necessary and useful.
                                I cretainly would not judge anyone on what they choose to wear.
                                When it comes to dressing styles I will only argue for modesty and covering private parts. I do not consider head, arms or some parts of the legs as priivate parts,
                                But individuals are free to cover what they choose to cover.
                                As far as I know GOD has instructed modesty and respect from both sexes and left some choice of details,style and fashions of clothes up to us in Qoran.
                                GOD bless you.
                                Peace.

                                Peace, it depends on how you wear it cause hijabis are out there doing all kinds of physical activities without feeling restricted. There are many styles that are more comfortable.
                                And I dont think modesty is only about covering private parts because 2460 is telling older women they can remove their garments. If garments means regular t shirt and shorts then relaxing their dress code even more isnt really possible without revealing private parts. Garment is probably some kind of abaya type thing with regular clothing underneath.

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                                  Cerberus
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                                  I see a lot of talks about what to wear but rarely about what is modesty ? As if the concept of modesty is truly understood, and all that is left now is to put on some clothes to achieve it.

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                                    Modesty is a mind thing first and foremost.
                                    The best clothing one can put on is on the intention of the mind. What Qoran calls "Libass Attaqwa"

                                    If the mind is dressed right, the body will dress modestly.
                                    GOD bless.
                                    Peace.

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                                      I'm loving the headscarves on sharirose.com. I have like 4 of the long ones and they're super comfortable, easy to put on like a hat and they're stylish. They're nice when you dont wanna wear the traditional hijab style and be stared at )

                                      Some faves https//sharirose.com/collections/long-headscarves/products/long-beige-headscarf-with-pink-boho-chic-lace-wrap

                                      https//sharirose.com/collections/long-headscarves/products/long-lavender-pre-tied-headscarf-peacock-feather

                                      https//sharirose.com/collections/long-headscarves/products/vintage-pink-long-versatile-pre-tied-headscarf

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                                        Sania_Haque
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                                        Peace,

                                        If you do, why? If not and you used to wear it, how did you find transitioning into a non-hijab wearer? Was it hard? Did you feel exposed the first weeks? do you ever miss wearing it? Do people treat you differently now that you don't wear it?

                                        I do. Although i converted very recently so i donot know what the future holds for me. My choice of wearing niqab was my own, although my father did use to force me, i wasn't the one to comply. But in my teenage years i did get closer to Allah and then forced my dad to get me a niqab, although my dad just wanted me to wear niqab. I dont think i am going to give it up since i am very accustomed to it but I am jist relieved that now there's pressure on me. Obviously i wasn't able to observe hijab everywhere like in wedding ceremony and family gathering and i always thought i am sinning so badlyz I'll go to hell. Plus no natter how much I loved hijab, I also longed to wear some modern dress as well, but you know how sunnism is, with their dresscode concerning women, wear a tent and a full face mask. Now I am just excited to try some of the dresses i have been dying to wear. Just yesterday i was getting ready to go out and trying to get my hijab right because some strands of hair were out. All of a sudden it hit me that it didn't matter whether my hair was showing ot not. Allah didn't care about it. I left those few strands as they were. I did panic a few times when i again realised that my hair was out of my hijab then I reassured myself that it was okay. Of course i cannot get rid of the internalised fear and panic in one day but in sha allah I have a long future ahead if myself to get used to a free life

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                                          Hijabis are only uncomfortable because of rude people and who cares if it's odd to disbelievers. Judgmental Christian's are hypocrites they depict Mary with a hijab.

                                          No it's uncomfortable. Even women in islamic countries also say it's uncomfortable. Do you realize how hard it is to wear hijab in a hot weather. I have developed acne around my neck and shoulder area because of it. Even when you are with people who accept you, you feel odd and left out. It is an outdated clothing, so some women find it restrictive

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